Help me understand my "bad" trip

[skarz]

Okay, before I tell you my story, here is some basic info about me. My first experience with LSD, I ate around 4 rolls and 6 hits of acid. The second and third time I tripped, I ate 1 roll and 1 hit of acid only. I had pleasant experiences each time.

Saturday night my friend and I each ate a hit of acid alone. A few hours later we decided we wanted it just a little more intense so we each ate one more. Everything was peachy. Then we started watching some clips of Alice in Wonderland on YouTube and that seriously fucked me up. I started laughing so hard and eventually fell on the floor and went into a state of delirium. I kept repeating "I'm fucked up" and "I need to stop watching that." I can't remember what happened after that except for that I started crying and felt like I was choking. I also felt very nauseated.

My friend was able to get me out of that funk but I returned to it several times. At one point I thought my foot was rotting into the floor and that I had the toes of a martian. I also thought my hand had disappeared and I became very scared for my wellbeing. My friend said I looked very scared. Once again, my friend was able to get me out of it and I pretty much enjoyed the rest of my trip. We tripped from roughly 11:30PM and stayed up all night. Trip wore off around maybe 7 or 8AM.

Is this a "bad" trip? I have no anxiety and was able to function normal today. No residual negative feelings, either. Also, what caused the crying and physical symptoms? Was it the Alice in Wonderland or what?

 

[Help?!?!]

Sounds like a bad trip. Atleast your friend was able to calm you down though. I wouldnt say that it was because of Alice in Wonderland that you had a bad trip but it probaly didnt help. No one can say why you cried thats something you'd have to look back to and try and remember how you felt at that moment in time. The physical symptoms just sound like regular old anxiety induced horrific visuals.

 

[skarz]

Hi Help?!?!, thanks for your reply.

Isn't it a little odd that it all started once we started watching AiW, though? I think this happened because ordinarily I had the ecstasy to keep me "floating" and happy. But this time I took just acid and so it was up to me to maintain the good vibes during my trip... If that makes any sense!

 

[Help?!?!]

It does make sense. I still would say though that Alice in Wonderland wasn't the cause of your bad trip. May guess would be it started the anxiety and then you were unable to control them and thet continued to grow in strength or the video just perpetuated the already slightly negative thoughts you had and set you off. I've seen specific things set people of down the road but i've never seen someone immeadiately completely freak out the moment something bad happened.

 

[swilow]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_attack You might want to read through that; some of what you described sounds like mega-anxiety/panic.

Things that are "trippy" when sober/straight can take on a totally new dimension of weirdness when actually tripping. Laughter on psychedelics can feel so intense and unstoppable that it can get frightening; the only thing you can do is try and let it happen without resistance. I personally LOVE psychedelic-laughter, even though I feel like an insane person doing it.

It may be that the ecstatsy held back the full psychedelia of LSD, adding the characertisc warmth of MDMA; personally, I've never enjoyed the mix myself, but if it works for you, go for it. That said, maybe explore acid by itself a bit more; then you'll reap the full benefits of it.

Peace!!

 

[skarz]

Thanks swilow;Help?!?!.

Do you suppose that this experience will help or hinder my further experiences?

 

[Help?!?!]

Its only going to hinder them if you let it.

 

[Eldaren]

As great as candyflipping is, if you've only ever candyflipped then this is your first "real" LSD experience. No warm MDMA blanket for watching alice in wonderland, and I must say AIW has got me on multiple occasions because its just plain fucking whacked out isnt it.

Next time you try something for the first time (im sticking with that) pay more attention to the set/setting side, as you obviously didn't factor in how much effect a bunch of mdma has on the whole experience. I sure as hell wouldn't watch alice in wonderland while peaking on acid for the first time. (I've only seen it a couple of times and i don't remember the storyline of how it goes very well, so I'd be fucked) Pretty much every time I'm tripping with people an alice in wonderland reference will come up at some point, which pretty much sums it up doesn't it? Everythings a fucking rabbit hole.

 

[adrian89987]

Re: why AiW caused this; its fucking weird dude- you got a talking tinman, a lion and a scarecrow; plus the bizarre songs/dancing etc. But seriously- the tinman freaks me out a bit even sober; the scarecrow is just fucking crazy :D.

haha wrong movie man

 

[swilow]

haha wrong movie man

Haha, oops :D Well thee wizard of oz is smply scary, okay?

Stupid stoned head

 

[Eldaren]

Animated tin men and scarecrows have never appealed to the child in me before that's for sure. But if I'm tripping I can at least recognize the flow of the wizard of oz, despite hating the movie. AIW on the other hand gives me no proper references to follow or anything. Pretty easy to get lost in that storyline.

 

[Venrak]

...Alice in Wonderland is great while tripping until you get to near the end with the Queen of Hearts and the realization on Alice's part that she "Just wants to go home". Those parts freak be out;

a) The Queen of Hearts reminds me of my mother

b) That sad part at the end with Alice on the rock in the forest while things get all dark and sad with her crying, trapped in this world reminiscent of the psychedelic state, is bad news.


That being said, that's what would have made me feel some awful negative vibes but we can't say the same for you as you're not in my head. And as we're not in your head either, the best we can do is to give our perspective on your own thoughts. But that's the place to start.

But I do agree with Swilow in that it sounds like one of the panic attacks I dread. They're powerfully frightening and can take on weird NDE/psychosis type reactions in me.

We'll try our best to help you dude, but delve deep into your mind and see if anything resurfaces when you do.

 

[any major dude]

Okay, before I tell you my story, here is some basic info about me. My first experience with LSD, I ate around 4 rolls and 6 hits of acid. The second and third time I tripped, I ate 1 roll and 1 hit of acid only. I had pleasant experiences each time.

Saturday night my friend and I each ate a hit of acid alone. A few hours later we decided we wanted it just a little more intense so we each ate one more. Everything was peachy. Then we started watching some clips of Alice in Wonderland on YouTube and that seriously fucked me up. I started laughing so hard and eventually fell on the floor and went into a state of delirium. I kept repeating "I'm fucked up" and "I need to stop watching that." I can't remember what happened after that except for that I started crying and felt like I was choking. I also felt very nauseated.

My friend was able to get me out of that funk but I returned to it several times. At one point I thought my foot was rotting into the floor and that I had the toes of a martian. I also thought my hand had disappeared and I became very scared for my wellbeing. My friend said I looked very scared. Once again, my friend was able to get me out of it and I pretty much enjoyed the rest of my trip. We tripped from roughly 11:30PM and stayed up all night. Trip wore off around maybe 7 or 8AM.

Is this a "bad" trip? I have no anxiety and was able to function normal today. No residual negative feelings, either. Also, what caused the crying and physical symptoms? Was it the Alice in Wonderland or what?

I've actually laughed myself into vomiting while on LSD, which I thought was hilarious, which didn't really help the situation... I was stuck in crazed hysterical acid laughter interspersed with bouts of vomiting for about 10-15min, my friends seemed a bit horrified at the sight of me, which i imagine was awful, but i was having a good time... i digress... Your trip doesn't really sound like a "bad" trip to me, you just had a couple difficult moments. When I think bad trip, i usually think more along the lines of someone curled up in a ball & withdrawn for most of if not the entire trip, as well as continuing to have some psychological issues the following days/weeks, or a full blown freakout-hospital trip incident. As for the crying, who knows what set that off. I know I can get very involved with characters while watching a movie tripping. I once was trying to come down off some acid & go to bed and decided to watch Joe Dirt and smoke some pot. I got really upset that everyone was being so mean to Joe, almost to the point of tears, my eyes seriously welled up a bit, go figure. As for the physical symptoms, I'd be willing to bet most of them can be chalked up to fits of hysterical acid laughter, I know nausea can, I'd be willing to bet the choking feeling could too, laughing that hard can be kinda rough on the body.

 

[skarz]

Cool, thanks to everyone for their responses. This is such a great place!

 

[malakaix]

I personally LOVE psychedelic-laughter, even though I feel like an insane person doing it.

Yeah, it's the most genuine feeling of laughter.. i've reached a few points where other peoples reactions to me laughing made me question my own sanity.. and i began to feel insane