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Help me quit smoking

^I like the chained-up dog one. I hate being "chained" to a dependency on any drug. Also it sucks financially supporting the big tobacco companies because they add all sorts of harmful shit to cigarettes and have done numerous other sociopathic things.

You are really good at finding images to convey your thoughts <3
 
source was the american lung association

Cigarette smoke contains over 4,800 chemicals, 69 of which are known to cause cancer. Smoking is directly responsible for approximately 90 percent of lung cancer deaths and approximately 80-90 percent of COPD (emphysema and chronic bronchitis) deaths.2
About 8.6 million people in the U.S. have at least one serious illness caused by smoking. That means that for every person who dies of a smoking-related disease, there are 20 more people who suffer from at least one serious illness associated with smoking.3
Among current smokers, chronic lung disease accounts for 73 percent of smoking-related conditions. Even among smokers who have quit chronic lung disease accounts for 50 percent of smoking-related conditions.4
The list of diseases caused by smoking includes chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema), coronary heart disease, stroke, abdominal aortic aneurysm, acute myeloid leukemia, cataract, pneumonia, periodontitis, and bladder, esophageal, laryngeal, lung, oral, throat, cervical, kidney, stomach, and pancreatic cancers. Smoking is also a major factor in a variety of other conditions and disorders, including slowed healing of wounds, infertility, and peptic ulcer disease.5
Smokers die significantly earlier than nonsmokers: 13.2 years for men and 14.5 years for women.6

You are really good at finding images to convey your thoughts <3
thanks swimm:)
 
The American Lung Association said:
Cigarette smoke contains over 4,800 chemicals

A pet peeve of mine: making things seem dangerous by noting that they are made of many chemicals. Broccoli has a similar number of chemicals yet is relatively benign (for most applications ;)). There are many far more valid reasons that we shouldn't inhale smoke from burning plants.

(sorry for the interruption; carry on)

ebola
 
Just an update. Still refraining from smoking inside. Still smoking less than usual although not an enormous decrease. I guess I was smoking up to 25 cigs a day, then the last few days it's been about 10-15. Today I've had 7 so far but it's only 6pm (although I've been up since 6am). Still progress I guess. Still scared; I had a nightmare where I was craving cigarettes and using heroin (don't worry, I have no idea where to even get heroin these days and really don't think I'm going to start using it again if I quit cigarettes).

neversick - you still in for quitting on Fri? :)
 
SD, someday you are going to be able to look back at this thread, long past the fear of quitting and any residual cravings, and think, ahhhhhhh....

You will be so glad that you pushed through. Congrats on the progress so far.<3
 
Aw thanks herby <3
That's how I think about my long slow agonizing methadone taper threads. (not that I'm feeling great now, just that I remember when it seemed like an insurmountable challenge and now I'm like, wow, it's been 6 months and I survived).
 
Originally Posted by The American Lung Association
Cigarette smoke contains over 4,800 chemicals

A pet peeve of mine: making things seem dangerous by noting that they are made of many chemicals. Broccoli has a similar number of chemicals yet is relatively benign (for most applications ;)). There are many far more valid reasons that we shouldn't inhale smoke from burning plants.

(sorry for the interruption; carry on)

ebola

... what's more is that when those chemicals combust and fumigate they mix to create new chemicals that previously did not exist.
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Swimmingdancer, use Cognitive Therapy while doing this, for example think or say: I have began to stop smoking - I have chosen to stop smoking - rather than I am quitting. the emotions, as subtle as they might be, that follow after saying "quitting" are negative ones, causing further unnecessary stress, and the process to be more difficult than needed.

there is always a gentle way to do things.

besides smoking outside, it is important you wash your hands, rinse your mouth and brush your teeth after, much of the nicotine is absorbed into capillaries of the mouth, sinuses, and the stomach via saliva.
 
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I feel your pain here but there really is hope. I had a similar experience a couple months ago when I started noticing the effects of cigarettes. Patches didn't work and E-cigs never really cut it for me, too much hassle weird taste not strong enough etc.
Then a store opened my town that sold high quality E-Cigs, so for fun I went in tried them and they hit like a real cig. I ended up getting one with the syrup highest in nicotine and quit right then.
A good E-Cig is nothing compared to the overpriced ones from head-shops and gas stations. You really get what you pay for. I recommend keeping an open mind to the idea.

^^^ this.

I have been off cigarettes now for 4 weeks using an e cig, they are fucking fantastic and within a week it will pay for itself trust me.
I much much much prefer my e cig to a real cig now, I took 1 drag of a real cigeratte a week after stopping and nearly emptied my stomach contents it was so vile and disgusting...
Go for the menthol its lovely

Oh and yeah make sure you use a proper e cig and not one of them stupid ones that look like a cigarette. Get one you fill the liquid with yourself, charge your own battery...
I use an ego-t, google it, they are fucking awesome.
 
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^Thanks nolys :)
I actually have an Ego-C already. And a different brand as well.

Swimmingdancer, use Cognitive Therapy while doing this, for example think or say: I have began to stop smoking - I have chosen to stop smoking - rather than I am quitting. the emotions, as subtle as they might be, that follow after saying "quitting" are negative ones, causing further unnecessary stress, and the process to be more difficult than needed.

there is always a gentle way to do things.

Thanks :). That is wise. I am trying to use that technique and also at the same time the concept of just not smoking right now, or not today, instead of scaring myself with thinking stuff like "OMG I can never smoke ever again!"


neversickanymore where you at? Still stopping with me today? :)

I did have half a cigarette when I woke up this morning at 5am. I rationalized it as not really being "today" yet and also that I might as well finish the pack that I have instead of torturing myself with having cigarettes in the house. I will probably smoke the other half at some point. Just being honest.
 
yes Swimmingdancer i'm with you, ha in more ways then one.. I too had, well two cigarettes this morning, I pulled a oh yeah I don't get lit any more so I wont really miss not really sleeping last night as I went out.. and yes after 45 mins of sleep the thought of facing the morning with no cigarette was much more dreary than the thought of having a couple more, especially when i found a 3/4 pack in my truck, yep thought those were all tossed.. woops, glad i didn't find that a couple weeks/months down the road.. but yes swimmingdancer, that pack is long gone and I'm on board.. will probably do ok tonight.. yeah im going to clonidine up tonight... tomorrow morning will start the show.. your not just slipping on to an e cig are you swimm? cause I don't know if I shall share the camaraderie of quitting with someone who is going to an e cig.. E cigs are great, don't get me wrong, but with the new generation of e cigs yeah thats kinda like saying i'm giving up street crack, yes I now have a endless pipe full of pure free base, its much healthier as i don't have all the junk in it.. but really lets give up the damn nicotine.. hope this makes sense as i'm quite short of sleep8(..

x-3, x-2, x-1, X;)

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Hey, I haven't smoked any cigs today (and I've been up since VERY early), had 2 yesterday. Also not vaping my e-cig today, even though I do NOT agree with your analogy at all ;). Just choosing not to right now, but I might use it once in a while if I get a really intense craving for a cigarette, I don't see anything wrong with it, I'm just not that into e-cigs anymore. People in this thread just kept bringing it up.

I'm doing ok, just feeling kind of sick and blah and having trouble concentrating. But could also be because I've been doing medical tests that require me to not eat. So hungry! Oh and I didn't get hardly any sleep. However, I'm actually kind of amazed, this is the longest I've gone without smoking in a very very long time.

How are you doing?? <3
 
As my quote says I am babysitting the argument in my head.. right now the argument is raging about smoking.. just going to flip it.. have the damn addiction do all the work, instead of giving a million reasons why i shouldn't smoke and having the addiction spit them out as justifications to smoke I'm just going to keep asking the addiction why should i smoke, yep no good reason for that.. this makes me stronger and the addiction weaker and fortunately the addiction has no way to rebuild itself unless i smoke.. Hang in there swimm I'm dancing with you in this nonsense<3.. why have a cigarette.. yep I don't think so.. why have a cigarette.. I don't think so.. why have i cigarette.. yep i don't think so.. why have a cigarette, i don't think so and that doesn't even make sense.. why have a cigarette, no i don't think so and i thought we covered this already.. a picture of where i am at right now..

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I always liked that a lot n.s.a., "babysitting the argument in my head". I am doing the same thing. Feeling anxious and irritable. But yeah, there is no good reason to smoke. I have to remember that I don't even really enjoy it. The last several times I smoked I found it disappointing.

The sky here has been smoky/hazy for the past few days, apparently because Siberia is on fire. That seems so weird to me, it's so far away. Maybe you will find something poetic in that herbavore :). Or perhaps I just read too much into things, lol.

Sorry if I'm not being very helpful as a mod right now, I have a short attention span. I can't even remember the last time I went an entire day without smoking at all.
 
YEAH IM SO LITTLE IN THIS PICTURE YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE ME.. HUMM SLEEP.. HA WHO NEEDS THAT OR A WORKING BRAIN.. BRING THE PAIN..

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YOUR DOING GREAT SWIMM AND SO AM I.. AND GREAT IS A MIGHTY RELATIVE TERM.. WELL I THINK I WILL SEE IF I CAN SLEEP.. I GIVE THE ODDS, CONSIDERING I AM HAVING A HARD TIME MEDITATING, WELL 121/4 IN FAVOR OF THE BIG GUY IN THIS PICTURE WHICH UNFORTUNATELY ISN'T ME:(

EDIT.. SHIT AT LEAST I CAN STILL LAUGH.. EVEN IF IT AT MYSELF.. LOL

The sky here has been smoky
AHHH SMOKY.. WAIT A MINUTE.. AHHH SMOKY.. AW MAN.. WHERE IS THE ON OFF SWITCH...
 
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how i feel this morning.. and tonight
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edit: i actually feel pretty damn good.. this is way easier than i remember.. a couple month long methadone kick must put things in perspective.. everything is relative=D how are you doing swimm?
 
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^Yeah that's what I was thinking too! Surely if I can quit methadone after a decade, then stopping smoking should be a walk in the park in comparison. It's really mainly psychological. Of course the psychological aspects are the hardest part of any addiction! But at least we don't have to deal with severe physical illness at the same time, right? It makes it a little easier to cope with the cravings when I don't feel like I'm dying.

All the carbon monoxide is out of our blood now :)

Here's some positive self-talk (I find it helps to relax and breathe/exhale deeply while looking at this pic):

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