drewmandan
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I apologize if this thread is too similar to something already posted. If it is, go ahead and move it.
So, I was thinking of getting some RC, but I can't decide which. I'm looking for experiences that are maybe 90-95% recreational and like 5-10% mystical/spiritual. Or in other words, I don't want to talk to god. Based on my experiences and research, there are 3 options I am considering, and I can only really afford one of them for now:
A) 4-ho-dipt
Pros: Short-acting, small chance of HPPD because of its non-visual profile, commonly known as a relatively empathogenic tryptamine
Cons: Not very visual (although I'm sure adding cannabis would make it VERY visual), possibly more loopy thoughts than other tryptamines?
B) 4-aco-dmt
Pros: Mildly visual, shallow dose response curve, its analog psilocin has a long history of human use.
Cons: Good chance of HPPD with over-use. May be too much of a mind fuck for recreation.
C) 2c-e
Pros: Highly visual
Cons: Lasts too long, steep dose response curve, high chance of HPPD, PEA gut rot, and I also have a bad personal experience with this one. May cause exogenous anxiety.
So please correct any of my pros and cons, or add a substance to the list, or tell me I'm an idiot. I really need the wisdom of someone who has successfully used psychs on a purely recreational level.
EDIT: I just remembered there's one other item I've been considering:
D) bk-MDMA or bk-MBDB
Pros: Highly recreational and empathogenic (for some people)
Cons: Highly addictive, causes rebound depression and anxiety? Causes heart problems. People tend to keep redosing.
So, I was thinking of getting some RC, but I can't decide which. I'm looking for experiences that are maybe 90-95% recreational and like 5-10% mystical/spiritual. Or in other words, I don't want to talk to god. Based on my experiences and research, there are 3 options I am considering, and I can only really afford one of them for now:
A) 4-ho-dipt
Pros: Short-acting, small chance of HPPD because of its non-visual profile, commonly known as a relatively empathogenic tryptamine
Cons: Not very visual (although I'm sure adding cannabis would make it VERY visual), possibly more loopy thoughts than other tryptamines?
B) 4-aco-dmt
Pros: Mildly visual, shallow dose response curve, its analog psilocin has a long history of human use.
Cons: Good chance of HPPD with over-use. May be too much of a mind fuck for recreation.
C) 2c-e
Pros: Highly visual
Cons: Lasts too long, steep dose response curve, high chance of HPPD, PEA gut rot, and I also have a bad personal experience with this one. May cause exogenous anxiety.
So please correct any of my pros and cons, or add a substance to the list, or tell me I'm an idiot. I really need the wisdom of someone who has successfully used psychs on a purely recreational level.
EDIT: I just remembered there's one other item I've been considering:
D) bk-MDMA or bk-MBDB
Pros: Highly recreational and empathogenic (for some people)
Cons: Highly addictive, causes rebound depression and anxiety? Causes heart problems. People tend to keep redosing.
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