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TripppAR

TripppAR

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G'day guys..


Quick question. Going to an EPIC dnb party tomorrow night in they city in sydney. Basically want to know if its a safe combo. That is...drinking alcohol for a while and then having a mate inject me (for the first time) with high quality methamphetamine and then a few hours later will be ingesting some high quality MDMA!!!! WOO!

So i usedto combine MDMA and grog all the time... no worries.

But i was worried about the combo?

any tips..

also i have empty caps. How should i go about consuming my MDMA

I want to get the most out of it.. will have .5 grams..
 
if you've never injected meth. I would strongly suggest u not to bro. Its a fastpaced road to super addiction to meth.


I have used this combo before i would suggest using mdma first then when coming down off mdma get on the ice. I was just smoking the ice. and ingested the mdma orally. and was boozing on like normal. Good combo imho :)
 
oh and as for the mdma. if u got no tolerance at all. split ur .5 into 3piles. bomb one of the piles. that should be enough to rock ur socks off for good 4-5hrs :)
 
don't go drinking (well, one or two is ok) and getting shitfaced if you intend on injecting some methamphetamine. the rush alone of IV meth is enough to make people gag and spew - i've come close quite a few times without going "overboard" with 1-200mg shots of crystal even when in the game quite deep.

make sure your friend isn't intoxicated on anything when he injects you. you want him to be sober and thinking properly so he is responsive to you if something happens. DO NOT let him boot up before he does you, no matter what he says.

personally i would avoid a meth and mdma combo,. take either one or the other. i always felt, even with tested and known high quality pills, that meth (esp when injected) overpowered most of the feel good bits of mdma.
 
Injecting Meth will be the dumbest thing you ever do in your life. As headdah said, its the fast road to losing everything.

If your gonna do drugs, be smart about it :)

The combo isnt a real issue.

With caps, my preference is to swallow them whole. Its anyones guess how strong the powder you have is. It could be 0.5 grams containing 50 mg MDMA and the rest filler, or could be a much stronger dose. Who knows! Id suggest snorting a small line first, wait 30 mins and see what evvects, if any, you get. Then you can judge how much you will need to ingest to get fucked up. Fingers crossed for you its actually MDMA in them!

Anyways, be smart about your night. If you take any advice from this though it is:

Don't inject Meth.
 
Done the combo many times (meth + mdma). Though I always snorted my meth, whether it was high quality shards or cut/powdery (often sticky) meth (often referred to as whip, whiz, speed etc).

A half weight (.5g) is a good amount for a night out, it's plenty if it's of high purity.

I've gone with starting to hit lines of meth first (usually during the day) then start dropping pills (mdma) as the sun goes down. As well as dropping pills (mdma) all night then having a line of meth at the end of it all to 'keep things going' or as a 'pick-me-up'. Then theres been times, I've sniffed up some meth, a few hours later taken some pills (mdma) then snorted more meth when the mdma had begun to wear off.

Firstly I'll say the combo leads to a fucking horrible comedown/crash, so perhaps have some benzos or other downers ready for that.

Secondly, your brain will hate this combo due to meth's duration being much longer than mdma's. You're combining one drug that is going to flood your brain with serotonin, the other is going to flood it with dopamine. I'm not going to get into the chemistry of it because I don't know enough but I do know the combo can lead to... for lack of a better description "a fucked up head" lol.

I would never say it's "safe" but if I were in your position, I'd have a couple beers first to ease any jitters if you do plan on IVing the meth (which I DON'T recommend), then once you feel like the meth has settled down, go ahead and consume the desired amount of mdma. Meth followed by mdma is less toxic to the brain than mdma followed by meth from what I've read (someone correct me if this is wrong).

For a good night out, I'd make 3 caps. To be consumed as follows;

1st cap: 00:00 - 120mg MDMA + 50mg methamphetamine
2nd cap: 02:00 - 60mg MDMA + 100mg methamphetamine
3rd cap: 04:00 to 06:00 - 40-60mg MDMA + 100-150mg methamphetamine.

edit: You could also go (if you decide to not IV);

1st cap: 00:00 - 120-150mg MDMA + 0-50mg methamphetamine
2nd cap: 02:00 to 03:00 - 60-75mg MDMA + 100-300mg methamphetamine
 
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Cheers for the responses guys..

I don't have any meth myself.. my mate was just going to shout me a shot. But i'm sure he will just give me alittle bit to smoke up later if i want..

I have very high quality MDMA available albeit a small quantity.. i was told a point will rock my socks off haha..

I don't want to be sitting in the corner munting my tits off all night as dancing is a MUST tomorrow night!

haha so yeh... perhaps ill just save a little bit for when i get home or something or maybe just have a small puff...
 
Don't bang it... It sounds like that would be taking a much bigger step that you realise. Just get your mate to chuck whatever he's shouting you into a crackie.
I'd always just puff up then drop mdma for when I was heading out, start with 100mg I'd say...
If it's good quailty shit you'll prob find you don't feel like drinking much.
 
Having one wack of meth is not going to turn you into a drug crazed junkie for fucks sake, seriously people here should know better then that.

I would recommend not drinking booze before hand. You want to keep well hydrated with water if your gonna have ice and MDMA. Also if the gear is good you wont drink much booze afterwards anyway.
 
I know the kind of hell I go through just with an addiction to puffing this shit. If I even think there's a tiny chance I could prevent someone from fucking themself up on this shit, I'll try... :/
 
TripppAR said:
G'day guys..


Quick question. Going to an EPIC dnb party tomorrow night in they city in sydney. Basically want to know if its a safe combo. That is...drinking alcohol for a while and then having a mate inject me (for the first time) with high quality methamphetamine and then a few hours later will be ingesting some high quality MDMA!!!! WOO!

So i usedto combine MDMA and grog all the time... no worries.

But i was worried about the combo?

any tips..

also i have empty caps. How should i go about consuming my MDMA

I want to get the most out of it.. will have .5 grams..
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I am very very experienced with this combo my good buddy:P Dont IV it man itll will catch up to u one day. Have a few drinks then dump the molly orally or nasally and then save the speed for the comedown or just before the MDMA wears off. I luv this combo teh best for partying. The reason why i do it this way as u wanna feel energetic after u have come off the MDMA and after consuming both MDMA+speed u can drink any amount it wont do much except add to teh hangover so keep the drinks on the low side if u are planning to drink afterwards.

Back in the old days mdma was commonly mixed with speed and pressed into pills and i always drank before and after i came down and u can see im still alive just dont go over board. Mite want to keep sum bars on tap just to ease all those stimulants. Dont really need capsules but if u planning to take them secretly like i do sumtimes u could actually make a few. Prob easier to dose (its so hard to measure and rack when ur totally high LOL Report back on how everything went n go easy on everything man. Start off low n work ur way up n good luck n enjoy urself:)
 
Hi TrippAR, lots of good advice already in this thread. You should especially heed the general consensus to NOT inject the meth! I used to have a speed problem and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Snorting, smoking or plugging are all decent enough routes of administration. What my innerself said is true, one shot isn't going to turn you into a "drug crazed junkie" but the more you IV, the less appealing the other R.O.A become.

Secondly the combination of meth and MDMA is far more neurotoxic than either taken in isolation. Something to keep in mind. If you do take both be sure to spread them out, keep a close eye on your heart rate, temperature etc, and stay hydrated.

Stay safe buddy :)
 
You're right Myinnerself. One wack isn't gonna get him becomming a fullblwon addict. but it will certainly put him on the right track of becoming one.

I totally agree with footsycrazy. better off just getting your mate to put some into a crackie and puff it.
 
You do realise having meth with MDMA basically cancels out the real MDMA experience?
And gives you a shit comedown

I would never do meth again unless I have a bunch of juice
 
DiGiTaL-CoRRuPTioN said:
You do realise having meth with MDMA basically cancels out the real MDMA experience?
And gives you a shit comedown

I would never do meth again unless I have a bunch of juice
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It depends on quantity, small amounts of meth don't kill the experience at all, just give it a bit of extra push, but higher doses can blunt the empathic effect of the MDMA, I'd imagine especially so if you shoot it up.

Personally I'd avoid combining meth and MDMA, it leads to a disgusting comedown and is considerably more toxic than taking either one by itself. Just take one or the other and leave it at that.
 
I've never found that methamphetamine interferes with mdma badly at all. Others have found different though. Like Belarki said though, combining them is said to cause increased neurotoxicity.
Edit- what Crankinit said ;)
 
Stay away man, only leads down a dark and dangerous road. Stick to psychaedelics, much safer ;)

I've combined Meth/MDMA numerous times and as far as enjoyability/good times is concerned it is a great combo (most of the time with decent amount of alcohol too). I did it on a weekly basis for about 6 months and it effected me a great deal - and not in a positive way. Took me months to overcome the short term damage it did. God knows what permanent damage I've done. I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat either.

As mentioned above, It's neurotoxic and generally bad for your body all round. This combo is best kept for special occassions. And if at all possible keep IV out of the picture!!! Meth + MDMA + alcohol always leaves me feeling absolutely horrible for at least 1-2 days.
 
Never let anyone inject anything into you! Period! I'm not against IV as a ROA...but where it has been prepared by some one else it is a BIG NO NO.

You have no idea how incredibly easy to prick yourself when prepping a hit, especially if you've had a bit to drink or are under a bit of pressure to get it preped up and done. Ofcourse that's no biggy if it's your own hit but how much do you trust your mate to tell you he accidentally stuck your pin in his finger??

I know its been said but just to reinforce don't bang quality meth after drinking..Rushing so hard you want to hurl is what you're looking for with good gear.

That being said..I've got nothing against IVing meth...it's my ROI of choice, gives the best bang for your buck and doesn't have the cloudy headfuck that comes with smoking...but only when done correctly, by you in a safe and sterile environment with sterile equipment.
 
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