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FRACTURE

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This is my first testing with ez test.
I tested four pills form the same batch. The four of them turned rapidly to dark purple in ez test. When tested in X-treme, two of them turned dark blue in step 1, and gave no noticeable reaction in step 2 (though it was no colourless).
But the other two, when tested in X-treme, turned light purple (dark blue at the edges) in step 1, and turned to light orange in step 2. What must I deduce from this?
I've noticed the liquid of bottles 1 and 3 is slightly tinted, something between orange and pink. When you pour the due drops of bottle 2 onto them, is it possible they keep their original tinted shade? Or must they turn colourless?
Can pills of the same batch give different results? Why?
Thank you
 
I'll have to think a bit about this one plus I am a little drunk. Probably a better answer in the morning ;-)
aj
 
Hi Aj... I give you an help...
Hi fracture...
I use Xtreme also and tested many differents pills, and almost always test pills in a real lab. Xtreme was always right... for the moment.
Well :
Yes in fact the reagent is little colored : it is normal.
From what you say, be ABSOLUTLY sure that the reagents has not been mixed bad, (sorry for my english but you will understand...
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) for example 1 & 3. Be sure the plate you used was absolutly clean between each test.
If all of that is respected, you can be sure that the contents are different...
[This message has been edited by monsignore (edited 04 October 2001).]
 
Thank both your for your answer ---and, in aj's case, for your promise to answer.
Monsignore: I am sure the plate was clean, and white. And I am sure I didn't mistake one bottle for another.
Maybe I must add that I had real trouble in getting the drops out of bottles 1, 2 and 3.
Yeah, I know I am clumsy, but it's not THAT easy! Most porbably I got from bottles 1 and 3 more than the 1-2 drops recommended, I couldn't help it. Then is it possible that, when I poured the 3-5 drops of bottle 2, those were not enough to "mask" the tinted coloration of liquids 1 and 3?
In step 2, I find very difficult to "see" if an already pink-colored liquid "turns to" light salmon/light red...
The definite question for step 2 of x-trme is: when a substance does not contain a primary amine, must it turn colourless when you pour in it the 3-5 drops of bottle 2?
Boys, help this clumsy fellow.
 
OK - quick question for you. Are you sure you are using the X-TREME test and not the SUPREME?
Also I'd have to go with monsignore on this one and ask again: you sure you didn't get the three bottles mixed up?
With the supreme test:
After testing with the ez-test ( a 1 step process ie you scrape, you drop, you observe reaction), make sure you go wash your surface well.
The second test is a 2 step process (ie drop of liquid onto the scraping from bottle marked 'phase 1' and then on top of that you put a drop from 'phase 2' bottle)
Just putting 'phase 1' on the scraping shouldn't get any reaction at all for typical substances that you would be testing for.
You shouldn't have to look hard for a reaction if a secondary amine is present once you put a drop of phase 2 on - it becomes quite apparent.
 
Well... PRRRRRRRRRRR
This menaces to become the never ending story.
Thank you very much for your interest, boys, but the fact now is that I don't know what I've got.
I specifically ordered X-treme and so it says in my order and in the order confirmation the suppliers emailed me. But when I received the kit, I didn't see the name "X-treme" on the kit box or on the bottles. The bottles were four: one marked "EZ TEST", and the other three marked "SUPREME TEST" phase 1, 2 and 3.
To get things more mixed up, I found in the box three leaflets: one referring to EZ Test; another to Supreme Test; and a third referring to X-treme. So I wrote the supliers telling them about all that incredible variety and asking for a little of clearness... And they just replied sending me to: http://www.mdma.nl/ez/instructions.php
where there are the instructions for the X-treme test. So I deduced I had got the X-treme test, but now... can somebdoy tell me WHAT THE HELL I'VE GOT????? And how to USE it? I wrote again to the suppliers, but they didn't answer.
PRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Desperately seeking some light,
yours anyway,
Fracture.
 
Yes, you're right. With all the recent changes, things seem to get unclear.
We know and are working on a better manual and instructions.
Pls. have a look here (instructions under construction).
http://www.mdma.nl/ez/instructions.php
Supreme was recently changed to X-TREME. X-TREME has one more bottle that tests for the primary amine, bottles 3 and 2.
What kind of pills did you test ?
Robadope is different in such a sense that you need a fair amount of substance to get a reaction.
"But the other two, when tested in X-treme, turned light purple (dark blue at the edges) in step 1, and turned to light orange in step 2. What must I deduce from this?"
and
"In step 2, I find very difficult to "see" if an already pink-colored liquid "turns to" light salmon/light red..."
It is hard to see but the liquids, when mixed, have a certain color. This color may seem like salmon but it is absolutely different from a reaction. If there is a primary amine, you will see a _reaction_. Sooner or later it will somehow bubble a bit maybe and then, in the liquid, a colorchange will appear.
For some substances it may be hard to see which was the case with our Superman but you will DEFINITELY see a reaction, indicating a primary amine.
"The definite question for step 2 of x-trme is: when a substance does not contain a primary amine, must it turn colourless when you pour in it the 3-5 drops of bottle 2?
No, it won't turn colorless. There will simply be no reaction but to find out, you must watch for at least 3-4 minutes.
"Boys, help this clumsy fellow."
Not clumsy, this is a new test and more difficult than regular Marquis. That's why we are evaluating it. We need to find out where things are not clear and where further explanation is needed.
"The bottles were four: one marked "EZ TEST", and the other three marked "SUPREME TEST" phase 1, 2 and 3. "
For this reason we have stopped printing manuals from now on. The manuals and stickers change faster than we can print it. Once printed, we're left with loads of useless manuals. Sorry for this.
"And how to USE it?"
I've tried to explain that on the new instructions page.
http://www.mdma.nl/ez/instructions.php
if that is not clear, pls. let me know what is not clear so I can try to improve the instructions.
aj
 
Ahhh... Aj is alive !!!
He answers you, so...
From what you say, you DO have the Xtreme kit, 4 bottles.
How to use it, i think that you have done all well.
But the fisrt time i do made a mistake too... and had this kind of strange colour...
Since you already have tested with EZ normal (the first bottle), just redo the test with 3 and 2.
If there is a colour change, you are definitly dealing with a strange mixture and i discourage you to take any of those pills....
Best regards...
Aj are you awaken ???
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oops... yes you are....
[This message has been edited by monsignore (edited 04 October 2001).]
 
Grateful Fracture loves aj & soma & monsignore. I'll try again... but i am afraid, after so much scratching, i won't have pill left to eat.
We'll keep informing.
Kisses
Fracture
 
Aj,
Forgot to recommend two things that can improve the instructions:
1) You'd have to say that Robadope needs, as you say, "a fair amount of the substance". That can be important.
2)You'd have to warn also about the coloration of the liquids of bottles 1 and 3, and maybe insist that one must not expect in step 2 (as I did) a "colourless non-reaction".
 
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