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Opioids HELP First time banger and idiot

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Jacksonvillian

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Don't know if this is the right place to do this, but as you can see this is my first thread and first post. I recently started banging roxies (like 2 days ago). I didnt know how to hit the vein, didnt know to follow the path of the vein, and didnt know to clean the area. I saw a friend do it and now I'm regretting it. I have these bumps on the Injection site in the crook of my arms and on my right arm is a bump with a very small pus like head. Its red all around and my veins feel quite hard. I stopped shooting since today of not being able to hit a vein and I'm 98% sure that I did some serious damage to my arms. I just want to make sure that I dont need any medical attention or that I dont have staph or something of the like. If someone can send me a private message to talk about this, or if an experienced person might be able to look at pictures of this and tell me if its normal or not, I would greatly appreciate it. Again, sorry if this is in the wrong area.
 
first off, can you explain these bumps a little more? how big are these bumps that have puss in them? are they the size of small pimples or are they much larger? and how large is the area of redness around the bumps?

for starters, run some very warm water (not hot so that it burns) over your arms where you were injecting, or use a warm compress like a wash cloth or something. i've had that hard vein kinda feeling from shooting roxi's before when i missed a tiny amount. i ran warm water over the area for awhile and by the next day 90% of that stiffness went down, but the area was still slightly sore.

the puss doesn't sound good though, and if you think that you may have an abscess then seeking medical attention is advised.

also, how many injection attempts have been made since you started 2 days ago?
 
I dont know how many attempts but a good number, less than 25 but more than 15. The bump is the size of maybe a slightly larger than normal zit. its not necessarily pus, only clear liquid. The redness doesnt stem too far from the line of hardness on my arm, however, there is a fairly large bruise emanating from the redness of the injecting sites. I also tried on different parts of my body but those are just mostly red and scabby from the attempts. I threw away my needles and am giving up on the IVing of R's. I told a friend and he took my needles from me. Im just worried Im going to lose an arm or my life. the following links are pictures of my arms. Dont know if that is allowed but if not im sorry.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/65571087@N03/5968986240/in/photostream
left arm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65571087@N03/5968986240/in/photostream
right arm

you can clearly see the bump on the top part of the redness.
 
did you notice any pain/burning while you were pushing down on the plunger? do you currently have pain/tenderness around the area? how many pills did you shoot, and did you ever check to register to make sure you were inside the vein?

i've had bruising similar to what you have in your photos, which was mostly caused by not applying pressure to the site of injection directly after. what happens is small amounts of blood leak out of the vein before it has a chance to cauterize, causing bruising. also i've also had bumps similar to yours, altho not as big as the biggest one you have there. in my situation, these were mostly caused by a small amounts of fluid from my shot getting directly beneath the skin during the poking process, causing an inflammatory response.
 
it sounds like you missed your veins i've done it before and a few days later the bumps went away but if after a week you still have those bumps then go see a doctor
 
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it means you may not have been in the vein completely if you felt the stinging when you were pushing the plunger down. (not sure if you meant when actually injecting, or when you were just inserting the needle)

the worst missed shot i ever made was when i missed a shot of benadryl (yes i used to inject the stuff every now and then, as it does give a rush). i felt some stinging, so i immediately stopped injecting, but my arm did swell up a decent amount. it scared the fuck out of me, and i ran warm water on it constantly and used warm compresses as well. it hurt loads just to rotate my elbow, and the area was pretty hard. i only missed a small amount too. luckily by the next day the swelling had gone down substantially, and i haven't tried injecting the stuff since.

i used to inject the winn-dixie benadryl, "top care" or something i think it was called. it came in capsules, and on the ingredients it was the only one i found in the store that didn't contain microcrystalline cellulose. whenever i'd filter the shot through cotton (even after filtering 2 times) the solution would still remain pretty cloudy, so i'm sure i got a bunch of other nasty fillers put in my veins. a few months ago i couldn't sleep, and i still had some more of the capsules so i figured i'd break them open and take the medication sublingually. needless to say, my tongue was completely numb and hurt like fuck for a good 30-45 minutes. i can only imagine what kind of damage went on inside my veins, and no wonder that small amount i missed hurt so bad.

one thing to add, if you're going to inject pills in the future, it's optimal to use a micron filter to help get rid of nasty binders that can still remain in your shot. if you have questions about the subject, you can check out captain heroin's mega thread, which he put together very nicely (it even includes lots of pictures to help explain things): http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...d-and-FAQ?highlight=micron+filter+mega+thread (although it's best to not keep injecting, but for harm reduction purposes, at least you know the information is there in the future).

also, injecting roxi's isn't really worth it in my opinion. i find the high to last much longer by plugging the medication instead. roxi's don't really give a rush (although some people will say it does, but most (but not all) of these individuals haven't experienced a real rush from other drugs like dillies or H).

anyways, stay safe and i hope everything works out for you. make sure to keep that warm compress on it for a good bit. a warm compress will do a lot more than you think at helping your situation.
 
thanks fellow floridian. the hardness is still there and CH said there might be an abscess under that bump, Im going to wait a few days and see if anything else turns up. I appreciate everyones help in this matter and I plan on becoming a permanent member of this forum seeing how you guys had helped a newcomer. I'll keep you guys updated on the situation.
 
yeah, man, if the BA of the drug you are injecting is nearly 90% orally, there is not much point to it, honestly.

Dillies, though, are a whole nother story. Doxylamine Succinate and Benadryl can both be safely shot when filtered properly (through a micron) and I usually mix up some into my dilly shots to up the rush, and extend the high.
 
I've been snorting them for about two years and my tolerance is pretty high. When I snort them the only thing it does is keep me from withdrawing. I got rear ended in a very bad car accident around the time I was prescribed them. I tried "plugging" them but was never good at it at all. The first time I hit the vein and got a good hit was the first time in a while I actually got a high from the roxi's. If anyone has a tip for plugging I may try that as long as its not too painful or a waste.
 
Plugging is absolutely not a waste. Second highest BA, only mainlining is higher. Just go to the pharmacy and ask for an "oral syringe to give a baby medicine", crush your roxy and swirl it around in a shot glass full of warm water (youll only need like an ounce of liquid), suck it up, lube up your bum and the syringe, insert about 2-3 inches into your bum (its really not that uncomfortable, im sure youve taken much larger shits) and just push the plunger in slowly. Then lay on your back for ten minutes, lay on one side for ten minutes, lay on the other side for ten minutes, and by then you should be feeling it pretty good. Poop before you do it too, as having a clean colon drastically increases the amount absorbed by your rectal lining
 
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another thing to add, is to make sure you get every mg out of your pills, backload the syringe with your crushed up roxi's first. use a small funnel made from a notecard to help guide the materials in. i find i can get about 90mg of roxi's in a 1ml syringe, but sometimes just to make sure i have enough liquid, i'll set up 2 syringes. i also like to do a few "washes" or "rinses" with just plain water to make sure i get every mg possible. some people may like the larger syringes, but i find the 1 ml ones are the best. WAY more comfortable, and the tips on them are pretty smooth.

if your pharmacist doesn't think they have them, tell them to look for it. i've done this before, and like 9 times out of 10 they're like "oh here we go right here, is this what you want?" 1/2 the time they don't even charge me, but if they do, it's like a quarter each.

to get multiple uses out of your syringe, overtime you'll notice the rubber part on the plunger will lose it's natural lube. use a little lotion or something to help lube it up, and then slide it through the syringe a few times to make sure there isn't a spot where it can still get stuck. the last thing you want is for your plunger to get stuck half way through a plugging session. it totally ruins the experience, cuz then you gotta use an extended paper clip to try and work it free via inserting through the tip of the syringe, since sometimes it gets to a point where the plastic plunger completely just pops out of the rubber tip. if you have any more detailed questions you can search my name and "plugging", and i have multiple posts where i outlined the process in much greater detail.
 
OP-- Here's some stuff for the now and future (should you, for whatever reason, go back to the needle.) To put this out there, I am a mortuary science student so do have experience with para-surgical technique, and thus some pathology/ microbiolgy training. (And used to work in chemical dependency counseling) so do know a little bit about medical stuff. That being said, I am no doctor, so if in doubt about any info that you see on here, DEFINITELY seek medical care from a trained professional.

To start: You say you don't know if you hit a vein. As Korn3X stated, the burning or stinging that you felt upon "injecting" very well could have been because you didn't actually hit the vein, or poked through it or something to that effect. I have never injected roxies, but have injected a fair share of dilaudid, heroin, morphine, ketamine, and benadryl and never experienced ANY sort of discomfort after pushing in the plunger EXCEPT when I missed a vein, punctured a vein, or put the drug into a muscle. That being said, irritation from the substance under the skin can definitely cause some irritation on its own (redness, rashes, bruising, etc.).

You also mentioned that your VEIN had some hardening in it. If the vein has hardening not only around the site(s) of injection, but instead alongside the length of the vein for a couple inches or more: well, this may mean that you DID hit the vein, at least in part, and that there is some scarring in the lining of the vein's tissue. This is likened to VERY mild necrosis of the veins. This happens frequently with some regular IV-drug users, but shouldn't develop THAT quick in someone only beginning to use drugs intravenously. (Not to say that its impossible though.) HOWEVER, if the substance that you were using is higly corrosive or irritating to your personal physiology for whatever reason, yeah, it could cause instant necrosis. (Necrosis of the vein, BTW, is in part of what causes the "track marks" users get.)

Given that you do have hardening of the vein(s), it might be fair to say that the roxi's weren't filtered properly, or that the pill itself contains something irritating) and has caused almost like an allergic reaction. Also, after seeing the photos of the injection site, the NUMBER or small reddish bumps leads me to believe that you at the very least had some sort of (partial) reaction to the needle, the drug, or whatever else was pushed in your skin. Try a topical benadryl (diphenhydramine) and see if that reduces any of the redness or itching. If it does significantly, its fair to say you just had a reaction.

If ANY of these things begin to happen, though, it may be fair to say that you do have an infection (e.g. an abscess, staph, or other bacterial infection) and in that case you should DEFINITIVELY go see a doctor as this can become life-threatening: The injection site, vein, or surroundingareas becomes swollen, very red, hot or warm to the touch, painful, and these symptoms get WORSE during a 12 or 24 hour period. The "bumps become more raised, pronounced, and larger in size instead of gradually going down or remaining the same. You experience a fever, chills, or shaking. Severe nausea/ vomiting. The appearance of a large bump or abscess in another part of the body, even if it is not in the area that you shot up in. The "clear" liquid you see when sqeezing the bumps starts looking thick, yellow or white or green, and more blood-filled.

For the time being though if your symptoms aren't scary, things you can do to treat this as are: Gently wash the area with anti-bacterial soap (the orange stuff!) and couple times a day, take benadryl or use the creams if this helps, and if you are STILL unsure and have access to it, take a cycle or a BROAD SPECTRUM ONLY antibiotic, but I don't recommend doing this unless you really fell like you need to as you can build a resistance (similar to an immunity)immunity to certain antibiotics and future treatments may become useless, even to dangerous bacteria! Some BROAD SPECTRUM antibiotics include amoxicillin, keflex (or cephalexin) and penicillin. Be aware that many people experience allergies to antibiotics, primarily penicillin, and also be aware of potential side effects. For instance, drinking booze on top on antibiotics is often a disaster for terrible gastrointestinal stress.

The MOST important thing for now is to remember that SAFE-SHOOTING practices are very important, and it is also very easy to come across info on how to properly inject drugs. There is a lot of info on the harm-reduction site www.heroinhelper.com and you can find lots of info on Captain.Heroin here on bluelight.ru as well. Here are some of my favorite links:

http://www.heroinhelper.com/curious/chemistry/internet_pills.shtml (Has specific instructions depending on what drug/ pill you are shooting.)

http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/admin/where.shtml (A quick guide that lists the pros and cons of shooting in varying areas of the body.)

Hope you're doing better!
 
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the bump on my right arm has grown a lot smaller. I used the warm compress 3-4 times yesterday and the hardness in my veins has gone away. It is still red, but besides that not any worst.
 
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