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Help / advice coming off heroin

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carrotcake2

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I have been snorting .5g china white for the past two years. Recently my wife who was very anti drugs tried it one drunken night and also eventually became hooked. We have a 2 year old and both work from home so can't just hold up and sweat it out - we really need to be able to function if that is even possible? Many thanks for any help. We are desperate.
 
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Hi thank you very much. Is bupenorphine the same thing as that is all I have access to. How many days would you suggest?
 
China white is a pretty strong opiate so going cold turkey will be extremely unpleasant. If you go to you local drug services they may suggest suboxone (buprenorphine) or methadone. With suboxone you need to be in full withdrawal before you start it as it can precipitate withdrawal if taken too early. You've really got two options... to do a fast buptrnorphine taper withdrawal or be maintained on buprenorphine on methadone until you feel ready to reduce.. just a word of caution with methadone.... it is not easy to withdraw from and you will probably be better with buprenorphine as a partial-antagonist so it has part blocker in the dose, so if you do use or relapse, you will feek little to no effect if your on a substantial doseof suboxone. I wish you luck!,
 
Sorry I didn't read you already had access to buprenorphine... the taper will depend on how much buprenorohine you have access to....
 
If you do decide to take buprenorphine make sure you are in full withdrawal as precipitated withdrawal is not fun at all. Subutex and Suboxone are both burptemorphine but Suboxone has Naloxone in it to to people from IVing it!
 
elvis_wears_nikes said:
If you do decide to take buprenorphine make sure you are in full withdrawal as precipitated withdrawal is not fun at all. Subutex and Suboxone are both burptemorphine but Suboxone has Naloxone in it to to people from IVing it!
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Thanks so much. Do you think it is possible to do a bupenorphine taper in a week? I appreciate w/d's are unavoidable but would there be much in the way of w/d'supon cessation of the bupe?

Appreciate you Elvis
 
If you have a week, just give the kid to a relative, stay clean 4-5 days, get the Vivitrol shot. Five minutes after the shot, all physical withdrawal symptoms are gone. Although after two years snorting dope, life will not be very fun for around 5-6 months. But after you get the shot, you have no choice, couldn't get high if you wanted to. Saved my life, I was in your shoes exactly, except without a child.

Look into it, best solution in my opinion because nalterxone, unlike buprorphine and methadone, is not an opiate and it blocks opiates as well.
So your not switching one addiction to another, each shot lasts 30 days and mine was covered by medicare.

Wish you the best,
ExInMil

Love Drugs, Hate the Consequences
 
ExInMil said:
If you can manage to stay clean 4-5 days (4 days for me), it stops the withdrawal cold once you get it.
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That is definitely not correct. Naltrexone (oral or injected) has no effect on WDs.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of naltrexone (it's how I managed to stay off dope). But there it is really not indicated for the OP's situation. I fast buprenorphine taper would be much better. And once the taper is done, *then* naltrexone can be considered if the OP is interested.

I'm not saying you didn't experience relief when you got hit with vivitrol. But whatever relief you had was either placebo or due to luck.
 
Perhaps, I was only lightly using before staying clean 4 days and then getting the shot. I didint get back to full blown relapse.
 
ExInMil said:
Perhaps, I was only lightly using before staying clean 4 days and then getting the shot. I didint get back to full blown relapse.
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That's awesome that you got squared away on the viv. And I definitely think that if someone really wants to get on it, then inducing treatment can bring a lot of relief from worry and anxiety. But unfortunately one of the hallmarks of naltrexone is that it can exacerbate acute WDs if any opioids are still in the body. I also owe my recovery to naltrexone, at least in part.
 
If i were you id wing yourself down gradually within a period of a certain time cold turkey could be to dangerous id think and have you ever considered trying to get off smack by going the methadone route?
 
Carrotcake2 - I thought I would rehash this thread as I was interested in how your withdrawal went... did you end up doing a Buprenorphine taper and have you managed to stay abstinent? I wish you all the best on your journey.
 
ExInMil said:
Perhaps, I was only lightly using before staying clean 4 days and then getting the shot. I didn't get back to full blown relapse.
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The doctors in NJ want you off dope and suboxone for 10 days before administering the vivitrol shot....Don't forget to mention that it's a $1500 shot without insurance.
I had 6 of em.
The shot made me feel weird as fuck every first week of getting the shot but then again you feel weird af everyday when you are in active addiction.
 
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