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weaksause

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figured i was new to blue light to introduce myself.
i have been using heroin for about a year now. roa is snorting, i am deathly afraid of needles and wouldnt let a phlebotomist shot me up; certainly wouldnt self iv dope.

i use four to five stamp bags a day of east coast powder heroin.

it really helps me.i am autistic, have add, and have been diagnosed with depression. it is the best medication i have found and i find it treats all three of my mental health problems. i hate that because of whatever reasons it is illegal. i am sure so many here agree that drugs shouldnt be illegal. it is an awful situation for so many people! i can argue the point indefinitely but i am sure everyone is aware of why drugs should be legal.

i hope to meet some friends andlearn more about opiod agonists, endo morphines. recreational and medical uses of heroin et cetera. my urgent concern is that this week i picked up two bundles, and there is much less dope in them than i am used to, and the dope isnt exceptional, so its hard sticking to my three to four bags a day without feeling i need more.

my solution is to pick up some suboxone. but i dont want to get two weeks worth of suboxone and go through withdraw. ill post in the proper section, my question, but maybe someone could point me in the right direction for information.

my questions are, a. will switching from dope (nasal roa, 4-5. stamp bags) to suboxone cause withdraw or any other unpleasantness? b. appx what mg suboxone should i use have a day and how should i dose it? c. will the suboxone help me the way heroin has been? ie. will i find myself calmer and more able oto focu (i am learning coding)?, help me feel normal in public places (as opposed to autistic, sensory overload, hard to communicate, obsessive)?, feel happy and motivated?

i realize answering my quetions is a bit tough, because you dont know much about me, and even face to face with a doctor i dont think trhey could be answered matter of fact, but do you bat. and of course ask me whatever you want to know to have a better understanding to answer my questions.

and please, please, please dont say something stupid like, "dont use opiaes they are very bad and addicting" or anything else negative. i spen eight monhs in CHOP on chemotherapy when i was sixteen; i witnessed the top professionals in their field administer me opiates. i do not have a problem with these drugs, and i dont need ayone telling me not to do em, or their own pathetic tale of how narcotics ruined their lives. they are a great addition to my life and i am sorry if you dont hav the same experience, but i dont want to hear about it.

tl;dr, hello i am weaksause. help me understand suboxone and answer my questions if you would like!
 
First Welcome to BL :)
I hear you, do you think the drug is giving you a perception that you are okay from your condition or do you believe it's curing them?

I suspect that heroin makes you feel so good and well that you are incapable to see something wrong with yourself.

However, heroin IMO does not have the ability to cure, instead it makes you very sick and totally dependent.

I hate to be a spoiler, but Indeed I have actually "done that, been there" and there aren't good endings to this.

Very soon you'll be spending lots of money to avoid withdraws which are physically aggressive and counterproductive to all you've been saying.

I hope that you find what is truly the best ways to live your life, already so difficult.

PS: subs are meant to deal with the addition and everyone is different. It's not something that one can just tell over the phone. You need to go to a doctor and IME it's too soon to get even more involved .
Erik
 
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Hello. Im new too. But im not new to buprenorphine (suboxone, subutex) and opiates/opioids. Past experience showed me that suboxone works great the first time you use it to get off heroin. It is best to wait as long as you can after your last heroin dose before taking suboxone. You will be sick. When waiting at least 36 hrs., it worked great. Any time when taking it before 24 hrs., it made the withdrawals much worse before it felt better. A 2mg dose to begin should be ok. You can go higher later but buprenorphine seems to have a ceiling effect; after 24mg it doesn't matter how much you take, the effects don't increase. Also, when taking buprenorphine for the very first few days in your life, it may actually be euphoric and very pleasant. My first time, 8mg sublingually felt incredible and lasted more than 20hrs. But that's the honey moon period. Next time you use it to get off any opiate, it will only make the sickness go away. No euphoria. It is still a godsend when you are in the hell of withdrawal (unles you are withdrawing from methadone, in that case switch to a short acting opioid for a couple weeks, then move to buprenorphine). Sorry abou the long answer.
 
thanks for the replys!

fenriz, thanks for the info! so i should abstain from heroin for 36 hours, then take my suboxone? that is what you said. is that because of antogonist in it? because it has such a high binding strength itll knock the heroin off, and since it is a partial agonist of the mor it doesnt have enough activity to remove withdraws? i want to do this right, so i really appreciate all the info you gave. would it be sufficient to take very little dope (perhaps one over the next 36 hrs in small dose)?


erikmen - are there any "cures" for autism? for add? depression ill grant you, but i am not very depressive, only diagnosed. not finding motivation is my main symptom or depression. i am never extremely sad or anything.

As far as heroin making me feel "so good and well" that i cannot see something wrong, that isnt the case. while it makes me feel good, i only use one bag at a time, and that is far from enough to nod or be overwhemingly euphoric. i gave up chasing the nods and euphoria quickly when i realized the theraputic benefits it was having.

heroin allows me to concentrate on my programming languages and gives me motivation to put a lot of effort into learning them. it allows me to relax around other peopele,tolerate them and tolerate sensory overloading situations. so i dont think it cures anything for me at the moment, but it certainly helps with the symptoms.

why are you saying i shouldnt get involved in subs? i think thats what your p.s. says? should i continue to use dope? i dont intend on getting clean, i intend on managing my addiction in accordance with my financial situation

ill be frank, i dont your additude in the latter part of yourpost. because you werent capable of handling these drugs doesnt mean that i am not, or everyone is not. you are not a spoiler,you and about a thousand people have saidthe same thing on this forum.

i was afraid that i would catch this type negativity here, and probably why i will not stay here long. i ask everyone, with respect, to please keep the dooms day stuff to your self should you post in my threads. please dont take that the wrong way, i am not intending jto be rude or disrespectful. i have given up reading s lot of this site because of it.

i like the objective info. and i do appreciate what you are trying to say. but the "been there, done that there are no happy endings" is very much not wanted by me. you are one person with one unhappy ending, and there many like you, but it isnt university true. also, how i that going to help snyone? its going to frustrate them, and its not going to give them any helpful information...

i spent eight months on chemotherapy, taking a lot of morphine, fentanyl, dilaudid directly to my main arteries. i had to get off my morphine, and it was a happy ending. a very happy ending as i am in complete remission and happily living my life, as opposed to dead.

my life hasnt been overly difficult,although i think i have a case of badluck.

and thanks other people for welcoming me.
 
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Edit.: weaksause , the reply to your message went to another user, i think (same name different spelling), and it wont allow me to PM you again. Try again later, maybe i can reply to the new message (the answer is very long).

I dunno what it feels like to be autistic but if you can use a drug, any drug, in such a way that the benefits outweight the negative, by all means stick with it. We take drugs because they are of benefit to us, not because we want to suffer.

Weaksause, i tried to PM you. The browser in my phone is a bit dodgy so i dunno if it went through. Sorry for bumping thread, dunno what else to do.
 
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