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Hello from Bulgaria and my messy story

ArtCore

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Hi guys,
I just love bluelight, so many of my questions were answered here so I decided to make an account and to tell you my story.

I`m 34, male, from Bulgaria.

I`m from a small town here, but now I live in one of the biggest cities in Bulgaria.

Back in 1998 I started using Codterpin(Codeine Purum) with Gluthetimide which was giving me a great almost 1 hour kick...when I turned back in times now I can say there`s no such an euphory like that...and thus almost 3 years.It was very easy that years to get almost anything from almost any pharmacy including pure liquid Morphine without any recipe from almost any pharmacy in any town, just 24\7.

But things change , politics change so do the drugs.I moved to study in a university near our Black Sea where I started using heroin.In most of our cities and towns, gipsies are the main dealers of heroin.I directly started shooting it(yeah, it was a bit difficult the first times even I had really big veins everywhere)and remember I bought a bag of heroin for 1 lev each(less than 1 dollar) and at the beginning 2 bags a day were pretty fine for me.Because it`s not so pure , we cook it with cytric acid here......Almost ten years I was a regular heroin addict, somehow always found money for my addiction and never committed any crime for cash...may be because I had some rich relatives and I was stealing from them without them to know.

Whatever.5 or 6 years ago first went into morhine recovery program.Here in Bulgaria we have Substitol, which as you know is really easy to cook and shoot, so I was shooting it until I reached 800 mg(4 pills x 200 mg each) a day.Then the Methadone program...hell.The Methadone in Bulgaria is pure and liquid as water, bitter in taste and it`s again no problem to shoot.I know people shooting 50-60 cubics(10 mg=1 ml=1 cubic) of Methadone per day when a big bottle of Methadone is 100 cubics(the old junkies form the late 1980s when the junkies in Bulgaria were no more than 50-60 people).I started at 15 cubics and after several years now I am clean from Methadone for almost 2 months.I didn`t go cold turkey.

My last dose 2 months ago was 30 mg and as you know it is really hard to stop with the cold turkey method, something more, I study last year piano at the Musical Academy and during the nights I play piano as well and as you know it`s really hard to work when you`re sick. When injecting methadone the withdrawals come just after 12-20 hours, it`s not made for shooting it`s made for drinking.So I tried several days on clean but it was impossible to do anything.So my doc prescribed me Oxycontin, which I generally don`t like.So I was 4-5 days form 60 mg of Oxy to 40 mg the last day, then switched to Ms Contin 5-6 days from 90 mg-60 mg the last day(no shooting both) ....when my old friend the heroin knocked on my door.

And now I am clean for 2 months from Methadone, but I used heroin for almost 1 month and hooked to it again.WHAT A MESS.And that`s not the best part.The best part is that I have signed a contract in Scandinavia, I have a plane ticket after 2 weeks....So, now I`m trying to kick my heroin withdrawals and i`ll try to stay clean for at least a couple of days, because I have 2 months contract in Scandinavia and I don`t want to have withdrawals during work in a foreign country, alone.I hope the withdrawals will be no more long than a couple of days.I just hope the withdrawals will not go more than a couple of days.I think they won`t be more than this, beacuse the heroin in Bulgaria isn`t very pure, I htink something like 3%-4%, when cooking there`s really a lot of bullshit and crap in the spoon before filtering, and the colour is not that cogniac colour, it`s blurry brown, light brown.

And a question: will I make my withdrawals longer if I take some MS Contin now for 2-3 days?:?

Thanx for reading and have a nice day everyone.:)
 
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Bulgaria is a beautiful country:)
im on my 2nd week of kicking opiates. I would suggest you not use the ms cotin as it will extend your wd. You have 2 weeks and if you stop now within a few days to a week the physical wd will ease. By the second week you'll feel more back to yourself. Using the MS Contin will draw that out and with your work coming in 2 weeks I'd suggest either a fast taper or just quit now. Be prepared for the anexity and depression of detox. It was worst then I thought but it do pass. I wish you the best and please keep us posted ok?
just think how better you will feel when you leave��✌️
 
Thanx for the reply Sweetyjane77
I think or at least I hope the withdrawals will end after a couple of days, because almost 24 hours after my last heroin score my muscles don`t hurt me that much I can eat (not much, but I eat), no vomiting, diarrhea is not that hard, eh, all other classic symptoms are here but I was prepared for it.Actuallly, silly or not that was my point-to hook on heroin than to hook on Ms Contin or Oxy.That`s why none of them was taken more than a couple of days.Lucky or not, the 3%-4% purity of our heroin will help me a little.7-8 years ago I went abroad to my ex girlfriend in Holland and after several months on IV heroin, the withdrawals were gone after 4 days.I was amazed.On the 5th day I was bradn new, yeah- I was smoking lot`s of weed and was drinking beers, but I was OK. Now it`s a little different.I hope the Methadone physical withdrawals are at least gone.
Btw, before writing my first post I took some Ms Contin, thinking i `ll trick the withdrawals or at least i was thinking i will help myself with the heroin withdrawal to pass the first 2-3 days, but it seems it`s a risky business, so I won`t take them anymore.

Wish you luck with kicking opiates.What kind of opiates are you kicking?
 
Oxycodone for me. But I was taking anything I could get my hands on and thank you:) day 11 now and I have pain but the worst is over :)
I did a super fast taper then just stopped.It sucked so bad but it's behind me now and a reason to not use again. It's hell getting off opiates. I wouldn't wish it upon an enemy
Stay strong You can and will get over this :)
And your headed to another beautiful country.
Look at it like a fresh start. Opiate free:)
 
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Hi im new too blue light and have alot to talj about and alot of advice too give. My friend lead me on to this site and im glade i found it. My storys a long one abuse, heroin addiction, meth, my husband isserving a 2 year sentence because we ended up homeless addicts went to stay with his fam. Who were meth addicts and pot growers and the house got raided we all got in trouble. It ruined my life even more getiing caught up in somtging i had nothing to do with because of my addiction. Ivebeensober over a year now when my husband gets out of prison we want a normal life. I got addicted to opiateswhen i broje my spine In a bad car accident and was almost paralized right after getting out of a relationship where the guy was beating me. So needless to say i need support ppl to talk too and i love helping ppl i think i have alot of advice to give getting sober on my own and staying sober and jyst all i have been thru. Ive seen alot and i research all day long. Im trying to find myself a thearopist i. Have add ( wasz on adderal my whole childhood i hated it) i have ptsd. Pretty sure manic depression poss. Bipolar disorder. But again im happy to find this site im excited about it. I use too never talk about my issues and masked them with hard drug use. Now im heeling and ready to talk.
 
Awe missfit88 please don't feel that way. I'm here for ya anytime�� I also have ptsd and used drugs to numb myself out. Day 11 clean now. If I can help you with anything please do not hesitate to ask ok? PTSD and addiction are awful but your going the right direction :) this site was a lifesaver for me and hopefully it will be an aide to you as well. Your not alone. I'm here fighting the fight with ya❤️
 
Congradulations on your 11th day clean sweetyjane, its a great thing. I thought i would hate being sober but its been over a year this march 15tn and even with my husband..the love of my life in prison and the rough road im on putting my life back together im happier than i ever was using drugs. Yea i have alot of anxiety issues and all that i need to get help for. I use to think ptsd was a made up thing ppl used as an excuse until i exsperienced it and now have it...its not a joke you really have no control over it. I have panic attacks...just from the accident i was in sometimes i have panic attacks just being in cars. My heart goes out to anybody with a panic disorder it has a huge effect on your daily life...ihad a problem going into public places for a long time. So yea i understand now ptsd is no joke..
 
so you started using codeine right ? did u use any CWE methods or did u just swallow the pills (if so how much ) ?
anyways, stay strong man...scandinavia has no opiates so better buckle up and get clean.
 
I say the same thing sweetyjane that i wouldnt wish opiate addiction on my worst enrmy..you seem like you have the right thought process down of not wanting to ever go back to that hell..you gotta remeber how bad it is too help stay away. I would het clean than think " well it wasnt that bad i just ficked upthis or that thats what went wrong its not the heroin" that was a bad way to think. You will be sucessful i think taking opiate pills can be harder to get off than street heroin because heroin in the u.s is about 30 to 60% pure so alot of the time u get crap dope..now with pills u get that same mlg every time and u build up a huge tolerance. My best friend would do lots of pills and i went from pills to heroin and he seemed to have more of a struggle, my point being your a strong indivdual you should be proud and stay on that goid path things get better and easier. Took me a while to figure out my life was crap because of the drugs and things i would do all involving around drugs its not a desirable lifestyle.
 
You kno what may help u with the withdrawl its call krantom its a legal herb you can find online or at a like wiccan herb type stores. But it works you mix it in with chocolate milk or something i found chocolate milk it taste the best with it but it stops the vomiting eases the stomach achs and stops the sweats and rls. I was doing at least a gram of heroin everyday for years and meth and the krantom helped me. Just something you may wanna give a try. Its fairly cheap too.
 
Ty? I tried kratom the first day. Went through 50g in no time It seemed to just drag it out so I never ordered anymore. I'm a bit out of the city now so I'm away from all drug contacts. I knew I was killing myself and luckily stopped it. I'm scared of opiates now lol. Seriously though I am. The mental part of wd was awful. I never felt so low. I can't do that again
Your doing awesome. A year by yourself and you did this. Your a very strong person. I did this alone and it almost drive me to off myself thankfully it passed.
I've been through a bit in my life and this. A fucking pill. Almost killed me. I never would have seen it coming. It's scarey when I think about it was legal what I became addicted to. Not crack or ogre illegal drugs. One from my doctor. No one told me I'd wake up one day sick from not taking them. Then it went straight to fuck it I'm an addict I got a drug bucket list. Talk about a 360 .
It's still kinda a shock to me that I went soo out of wack for years. Now I gotta get healthy again. I gotta live not being fucked up 24/7 So far so good though:)
 
ArtCore, may I ask why did you go from Substitol to Metadone? That sounds like the worst decision ever. Im familiar with Substitol and I think its much much easier to taper down that Metadone which is known for being a SOB of a drug to quit. While Substitol on the one hand its very easy to go from heroin to substitol, you dont even notice it (except the lack of euphoria of course) and you can easily taper down with opening the capsule and measuring out less and less of those tiny pebbles that are inside each day. Oxy or Ms Contin, those are very good for tapering in my opinion, Substitol is go because it has a hell of a long duration and comfortably lets you off.
 
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