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danxo said:
not for "just taking" them, right

but they will label you, and or behave in a different way after knowing the truth.

but they possibly can do such actions if they want, and make things up on the fly for example

I would love to be, but until now did not feel safe to tell, you see?

try not to overthinking things is easier said than done, while having a racing heart in your chest 24/7 and not knowing what happened and what it is, is not the best situation to be in imo
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I'm sure it's tricky yeah

Just again pointing out to you - almost every sentence you write is drenched in anxiety - which makes me believe that anxiety could well be the problem here (Occams Razor would suggest so anyway)

All the best friend, stick around the forums let us know how things develop
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
looks like @Coffeeshroom could be offline, so I'll substitute

ticker is heart, yes

people should always err on the side of caution with heart related matters because hearts are important!

can I say - you do definitely sound quite anxious from the way you respond / phrase things (and why wouldn't you be? a change in pulse rate is alarming no doubt
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thanks for the jump in there and explaining my slang lol.

BUt yes when it comes to the heart it is not something you want to mess around with, if your resting bpm is like 90, whats it gonna be after a line of coke? just an example but think you know what im trying to say. As mentioned by a few, the heart is something i dont mess around with and for that matter, neither should anyone else.

but i wish you all the best of luck and if you do get to get a 2nd opinion, let us know.
 
Coffeeshroom said:
thanks for the jump in there and explaining my slang lol.

BUt yes when it comes to the heart it is not something you want to mess around with, if your resting bpm is like 90, whats it gonna be after a line of coke? just an example but think you know what im trying to say. As mentioned by a few, the heart is something i dont mess around with and for that matter, neither should anyone else.

but i wish you all the best of luck and if you do get to get a 2nd opinion, let us know.
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I know what you mean. like after sports heavy lifting etc.

It was always 60, and now after it is 90. sometimes 120+ which is unhealthy so yeah that is the problem now.

I did not know that it can affect the heard. It was always said nobody ever died before, even on overdose, and be the safest drug out there.

If I had known this before, I would not have taken it.
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
I'm sure it's tricky yeah

Just again pointing out to you - almost every sentence you write is drenched in anxiety - which makes me believe that anxiety could well be the problem here (Occams Razor would suggest so anyway)

All the best friend, stick around the forums let us know how things develop
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I would not know.

who or what is Occams Razor ?
 
Hey welcome to Bluelight, glad youre here and sorry you got spammed initially. Let me know if you need help with anything in the future.

In all honesty one mushroom trip simply would not have changed your heart rate like that. I just don't know that is possible, ever. Ive certainly never heard of it before.

There are a lot of factors that could have come in to play, if it has been a little while since eating the mushrooms. I would look into those honestly. Change in physical exercise, environment, diet, anything like that. If the doctor didnt find anything then yeah, be confident that physically youre fine.

My best guess is that the mushroom trip possibly exacerbated some existing anxiety and now you are just hyperfocusing on it and its causing you stress overall and your heart is compensating for it.

But please rest assured that psylocibin mushrooms will not permanently raise your BPM by 30 points. There has to be some other mitigating factors that maybe you are not thinking of.
 
Hey mate,

I totally get the doctor thing. My recent interactions have been that they are mostly frauds to be honest, but they won't out you in a ward.

They will however likely try to put you on SSRI's or beta blockers, that's pretty much a guarantee. Resist the SSRI (they will manipulate and push), but some propanolol for a short time might help.

These people wpuldn't give me diazepam when I was coming off benzos last year, but they gave me amphetamine for five years despite my prior addiction problems and the fact I told them I'd taken 87 different drugs. Plus they vaxxed my friends and family with an untested vaccine that didn't work but fucked some of them up.

But the worst they will do is patronise you and tell you hownyour drugs were cut. And push SSRI's.

If you can get some propanolol to slow your heart it might help. Failing that (but I doubt they'd offer) some diazepam will take the edge off temporarily. This has led to MANY benzo addictions on this site though. And please don't go within a good few miles of opiates.
 
Tranced said:
Hey mate,

I totally get the doctor thing. My recent reactions have been that they are mostly frauds to be honest, but they won't out you in a ward.

They will however likely try to put you on SSRI's or beta blockers, that's pretty much a guarantee. Resist the SSRI (they will manipulate and push), but some propanolol for a short time might help.

These people wpuldn't give me diazepam when I was coming off benzos last year, but they gave me amphetamine for five years despite my prior addiction problems and the fact I told them I'd taken 87 different drugs. Plus they vaxxed my friends and family with an untested vaccine that didn't work but fucked some of them up.

But the worst they will do is patronise you and tell you hownyour drugs were cut. And push SSRI's.

If you can get some propanolol to slow your heart it might help. Failing that (but I doubt they'd offer) some diazepam will take the edge off temporarily. This has led to MANY benzo addictions on this site though. And please don't go within a good few miles of opiates.
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right, the ssri's are also a big point of it. I forgot to mention that. Would not like to start with that. heard a lot about it.

beta blocker was my first guess, too! propanolol never heard before, but yes for a short time, I would try something.

benzo and diazepam I hear also often before. so only in emergencies I guess.

opiates no worries. would not know what these are exactly. only had one time tramal / tramadol which is a opioid I think
 
danxo said:
right, the ssri's are also a big point of it. I forgot to mention that. Would not like to start with that. heard a lot about it.

beta blocker was my first guess, too! propanolol never heard before, but yes for a short time, I would try something.

benzo and diazepam I hear also often before. so only in emergencies I guess.

opiates no worries. would not know what these are exactly. only had one time tramal / tramadol which is a opioid I think
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I'd encourage massive wariness regarding benzos, moreso than opiates in many ways

They are even worse if you actually have anxiety, because they will work! I know that sounds mental, here's the often-experienced process.

Anxious person (AP) is anxious, AP takes a benzo, Ap is now not anxious - amazing! AP takes the dru occasionally, AP takes the drug regularly, tolerance dependence and addiction follow, after xxx amount of time AP ends up with pretty much the worst addiction possible AND their anxiety is twice as bad as when they began.

So yeah, best avoided if at all possible.
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
I'd encourage massive wariness regarding benzos, moreso than opiates in many ways

They are even worse if you actually have anxiety, because they will work! I know that sounds mental, here's the often-experienced process.

Anxious person (AP) is anxious, AP takes a benzo, Ap is now not anxious - amazing! AP takes the dru occasionally, AP takes the drug regularly, tolerance dependence and addiction follow, after xxx amount of time AP ends up with pretty much the worst addiction possible AND their anxiety is twice as bad as when they began.

So yeah, best avoided if at all possible.
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I'd encourage massive wariness regarding benzos, moreso than opiates in many ways

They are even worse if you actually have anxiety, because they will work! I know that sounds mental

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I get it 100%. the only thing I don't know is what opiates are exactly. and what to try in this case.

your example is easy to understand for everyone I think. because it works so easy it makes you worse over time.

I was told to only use it maybe once to try it out, but it seems dangerous.

From what I know they do all that changes to the brain receptors that you mentioned, and that is why you get easily hooked
 
danxo said:
right, the ssri's are also a big point of it. I forgot to mention that. Would not like to start with that. heard a lot about it.

beta blocker was my first guess, too! propanolol never heard before, but yes for a short time, I would try something.

benzo and diazepam I hear also often before. so only in emergencies I guess.

opiates no worries. would not know what these are exactly. only had one time tramal / tramadol which is a opioid I think
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propanonol = is a beta blocker for high blood pressure and it is also used for a variety of other ailments thats got to do with the heart but i will first seek medical attention from a doc before you just jump or go on that.

As for the benzos, i think that might help bring down your resting heart rate but that can open a whole new can of worms to deal with in the long run.

And as you mentioned, you have no desire for opiates/opioids and keep it that way
 
danxo said:
I'd encourage massive wariness regarding benzos, moreso than opiates in many ways

They are even worse if you actually have anxiety, because they will work! I know that sounds mental

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I get it 100%. the only thing I don't know is what opiates are exactly. and what to try in this case.

your example is easy to understand for everyone I think. because it works so easy it makes you worse over time.

I was told to only use it maybe once to try it out, but it seems dangerous.

From what I know they do all that changes to the brain receptors that you mentioned, and that is why you get easily hooked
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yeah, avoid opiates for anxiety too - they are for hardcore pain

research what they are mate - stuff like Codeine, Tramadol. Morphine, Oxycodone, Heroin, Fentanyl are all Opiods

honestly drugs are a shit solution to anxiety, can help in short term but really that's it

looking at non-drug solutions far preferable for wellbeing, no doubt whatsoever

goodnight bro
 
Coffeeshroom said:
propanonol = is a beta blocker for high blood pressure and it is also used for a variety of other ailments thats got to do with the heart but i will first seek medical attention from a doc before you just jump or go on that.

As for the benzos, i think that might help bring down your resting heart rate but that can open a whole new can of worms to deal with in the long run.

And as you mentioned, you have no desire for opiates/opioids and keep it that way
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then only that is what I would try
same opinion on the rest you said
 
danxo said:
right, the ssri's are also a big point of it. I forgot to mention that. Would not like to start with that. heard a lot about it.

beta blocker was my first guess, too! propanolol never heard before, but yes for a short time, I would try something.

benzo and diazepam I hear also often before. so only in emergencies I guess.

opiates no worries. would not know what these are exactly. only had one time tramal / tramadol which is a opioid I think
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Yes though tramadol is also an SNRI as well as opioid, so has SSRI like properties.

I ask every single person who tells me they take SSRI's if they work, and they all say they don't know, or don't work. Every single time. But they can't come off because brain zaps/withdrawals. They seem very strangely addicted to things which don't work, and destroy your SSRI receptors (i.e your serotonin receptors; which are analogues of tryptamine psychedelics and imo regulate reality rather than happiness like mainstream says.

Ftr I saw @danxo put out a cry for help regarding psychs on a telegram channel and sent him here, hence this following knowledge, but you did mention to me what happened during said trip bringing up mistakes and failures for 20 years.

I can't see how this isn't root and don't worry because the vast majority of bl have been there. At least any of us that took psychs. Or ended up on pharms.

You need to write that shit down and start accepting and/or adressing it.

Like I said to you last night, that just means they worked. But no action, and no resolution! IMO/IME/etc.

It is possibly the most common thread on this website, with life, and with psychs.
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
yeah, avoid opiates for anxiety too - they are for hardcore pain

research what they are mate - stuff like Codeine, Tramadol. Morphine, Oxycodone, Heroin, Fentanyl are all Opiods

honestly drugs are a shit solution to anxiety, can help in short term but really that's it

looking at non-drug solutions far preferable for wellbeing, no doubt whatsoever

goodnight bro
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yeah makes sense.

morphine heroin fentanyl I knew of being opiates. the rest I know of, and now I get it.

but what other non-drug solutions are there for wellbeing?

thanks for all the replies

have a good night mate
 

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danxo said:
yeah makes sense.

morphine heroin fentanyl I knew of being opiates. the rest I know of, and now I get it.

but what other non-drug solutions are there for wellbeing?

thanks for all the replies

have a good night mate
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The answer is in the name: well being.

Gym/lifting
Cardio
Healthy food
Yoga
Meditation
Addressing whatever came up on the mushrooms

Also nootropics
Adaptogens

Being in Germany you might have access to nootropics. Piracetam is great for anxiety, and aniracetam even better.

Can't get them in the uk now but maybe Germany.
 
Tranced said:
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The answer is in the name: well being.

Gym/lifting
Cardio
Healthy food
Yoga
Meditation
Addressing whatever came up on the mushrooms


Adaptogens
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Adaptogens I have to look into.

Piracetam is great for anxiety, and aniracetam even better. -> thanks for the info
nicotine is also a nootropics, right?
 
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