Hello Everyone (nembie here) - Opiates For Cluster Headaches

[EvansTheName]

Hello all im a 23 year old male and suffer from constant migraines/headaches. I'd say that out of 365 days in the year I wake up with a sore head and a pounding headache (one when I move I can feel my pulse beating in my temples) much like this morning. In November I was hospitalized for a stomach ulcer from taking too many ib profen. I took on average at LEAST 12 ib profen a day for about 2 months (sometimes my headaches can last months at a time!) Since November and being hospitalized I've realized that as severe as my headaches are I'm better off self medicating with prescription pain medication like Percocet that actual gives some real pain relief and if taken responsibly will not tear my stomach into pieces and leave me running for the hospital. In other terms its better to take 1 advil and 1 10mg Percocet that can possibly knock-out my headache then to take weeks of NSAIDS that just barely take the edge off to a lingering headache that will stay for a while. Now that I've given my background story my question to you is if I take 2 10mg Percocet a day am I running the risk of gaining a tolerance that won't allow such pain relief that im experiencing now and can I get addicted at 2 10mg a day? I'm 6'4" and 205 lbs. I must say a 10 mg Percocet does give me a nice warm buzz for 3 hours and GREAT headache relief. Thanks for the help guys and this is my 1st post here so excuse my newbiness. I love the pain relief I get from Percocet but I don't like the guilty feeling and false anxiety I give myself when I take them wondering if I'm on my rode to addiction and tolerance.

 

[traybuck]

Yes and yes...however i found percocet to be easly kicked...the real problem is going to be you wanting to get stronger shit later and then that will lead you to some real problems :-/ imho

 

[EvansTheName]

Ehh idk literally 1 10mg Percocet FUCKS me up pretty good for about 3 hours. I feel as long as I can keep my tolerance at the same level physically my body should be okay on the pills. I took them for about 2 weeks straight for headaches and the last 3 days suffered through headaches to see if I got any cravings. To be honest I did a little bit but nothing just keeping busy couldn't get rid of and physically didn't feel any different. I know everyone is different but I feel like I'd need to be on a much higher dose to get physically addicted? I'm not a very addictive person. Though society being as ass backwards as it is has barred weed so I can't smoke since im looking for employment and weed helps with headaches and everything in life basically ... The way the world works and our society is pretty disgusting, thanks a lot for your reply bro

 

[Vorpal]

I love the pain relief I get from Percocet but I don't like the guilty feeling and false anxiety I give myself when I take them wondering if I'm on my rode to addiction and tolerance.

It's tough for some people to break this feeling. Society indoctrinates everyone into thinking that taking pain medicine is wrong or some kind of sin. But you've got to remember that the majority of entertainers, actors, sports people, politicians, lawyers even doctors regularly use drugs of some sort. If you're in pain then you deserve to be able to take something that helps alleviate that pain. Its a mental thing but it can be overcome.

 

[pasha]

homeless -> basic drug discussion

 

[PotatoMan]

it has been suggested that Psilocybin can cure cluster headaches. Pain meds are like putting a band-aid on the pain. It's not ever gonna be permanent relief.

Maybe try some mushies? who knows, it may work.

 

[wezface]

There are also certain beta blockers that can help with migraines. You might ask your GP about trying something like propranolol and seeing if that helps.

 

[Crashing]

If you take percocet more than once in a while, the snowball of addiction will certainly present itself. It's impossible to recognize for someone who's never been addicted before, and it's incredible sneaky.

 

[euc1000]

If you take percocet more than once in a while, the snowball of addiction will certainly present itself. It's impossible to recognize for someone who's never been addicted before, and it's incredible sneaky.

absolutely. your anxiety is warning you. don't ignore it. you're answering your own question.
no one starts out with this or that nice buzz looking to be horribly sick. we all started somewhere nice & clean. you're in the best position now you'll ever be in. you still have a choice.
but whatever you do, be honest with yourself.

 

[Rybee]

Hi there,

First of all, amongst all the self inflicted bullshit that I read on BL, I'm so sorry to hear that you suffer from cluster headaches. I don't suffer from them myself, but I do suffer from Daily Chronic Migraine - is what it says on the tin. A migraine 300/365 days of the year. For anybody who doesn't know how painful a cluster headache is, watch the little clip below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRXnzhbhpHU

A moderate proportion of cluster headache patients resort to suicide - it's often quoted as being the most painful condition to suffer from, above kidney stones.

What prophylactics do you take? And do you take Oxygen by any chance?

My worry is that, with the regime you've suggested, you could start to suffer from Medication Overuse Headache. I was trying to control my migraines for ~6 months with a daily dose of 4x1,000mg of Paracetamol, 4x250mg of Naproxen, 4x100mg of Tramadol as well a hell of a lot of Triptans such as Sumatriptan/Rizatriptan/Zolmitriptan. My consultant said that the head-pain I was experiencing was most probably a result of Medication Overuse Headache, I didn't believe him and ignorantly thought that I just must be better off taking pain killers and Triptans than not taking anything.

I agreed to be hospitalised as an inpatient and monitored over 5 days under strict directions that no pain killers or Triptans should be administered during my 'detox'. The only thing I could have was Metoclopramide or Domperidone for the nausea. It was honestly the worst 3/4 days of my life, I was in so much pain. I'm 25 and I have no hesitation in saying that I screamed, begged, and cried my eyes out for 20 hours a day, the other 4 hours I managed to get some kind of sleep. Come day 5 I woke up, to my surprise, with just a mild headache, no nausea and no Photophobia. It was at that point that I accepted that Medication Overuse Hedache was a really dangerous thing and I needed to do everything in my power to stop it.

I had a complete re-evaluation of my drug use and although I have to accept that I will suffer pain from my chronic daily migraines, I have can only control it, not extinguish it.

Again, I'm so sorry because most people with have no idea what you're going through - I wouldn't wish cluster headaches on anyone. They're torture. Inhumane.