Mkay...first...let's dispell some myths:
It is not a circuit board cleaner. I have been working in High grade SMT soldering electronics for some years. This stuff is dissolved in H2O. Let me make this clear. In order to break down the fluxes we use for mini wave soldering on SMT Circuit boards we require very serious solvents. There is no such thing as a water soluable flux. This stuff would not clean a circuit board at all.
Nor anything else for that matter. I am the person who tried to clean some cd's. It left a nasty residue which I had to use a real CD cleaner to get off. Not to mention that it is a very poor cleaner. Why would anyone use it as such? And don't forget that many chemicals we can put in our bodies are used to clean...can anyone say WATER? or if you're that worried how about all of the detergents we use on our dishes?
Also look at the chemistry behind it.
OH(C2)4OH
There is no need for any precursers containing ANY heavy metals for this reaction.
And it must be easy and cheap to make as it is used largely in the paper/printing industry to polymerise paper, so it can't contain any exotic precursers.
And here's quote for you "BD is the ethynylation product of acetylene and formaldehyde; a bifunctional primary alcohol"
And for those who know...alcohol is a simple sugar.
Oh yeah....source document...
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/1-4B_datasheet.pdf
k...I think I've made a bit of a case. So far it looks like it is make from acetylene (gas...no heavy metals) and formaldehyde (also no heavy metals) and ethynol? (well...alcohol...polish spirit
)
So any additional thoughts?
Cheers...
DB
PS...sorry if I came across a bit too strongly...I am sick of people saying how amazingly bad it is for us when everything they say is wild extrapolation or something they heard from someone who knows someone who works with someone who knows a guy who makes the shit. C'mon...we are Bluelighters...let's do some real research and look into it. I see no scientific evidence to show that this is more harmful than alcohol! (ok bad example
)
But still...let's use some scientific method for a change Mkay?
Cool...peace....sorry for the second outburst.....
*hugs all 'round*
*big cheesy dimpled grin*
[This message has been edited by Darkblade (edited 17 January 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Darkblade (edited 17 January 2001).]
It is not a circuit board cleaner. I have been working in High grade SMT soldering electronics for some years. This stuff is dissolved in H2O. Let me make this clear. In order to break down the fluxes we use for mini wave soldering on SMT Circuit boards we require very serious solvents. There is no such thing as a water soluable flux. This stuff would not clean a circuit board at all.
Nor anything else for that matter. I am the person who tried to clean some cd's. It left a nasty residue which I had to use a real CD cleaner to get off. Not to mention that it is a very poor cleaner. Why would anyone use it as such? And don't forget that many chemicals we can put in our bodies are used to clean...can anyone say WATER? or if you're that worried how about all of the detergents we use on our dishes?
Also look at the chemistry behind it.
OH(C2)4OH
There is no need for any precursers containing ANY heavy metals for this reaction.
And it must be easy and cheap to make as it is used largely in the paper/printing industry to polymerise paper, so it can't contain any exotic precursers.
And here's quote for you "BD is the ethynylation product of acetylene and formaldehyde; a bifunctional primary alcohol"
And for those who know...alcohol is a simple sugar.
Oh yeah....source document...
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/1-4B_datasheet.pdf
k...I think I've made a bit of a case. So far it looks like it is make from acetylene (gas...no heavy metals) and formaldehyde (also no heavy metals) and ethynol? (well...alcohol...polish spirit
So any additional thoughts?
Cheers...
DB
PS...sorry if I came across a bit too strongly...I am sick of people saying how amazingly bad it is for us when everything they say is wild extrapolation or something they heard from someone who knows someone who works with someone who knows a guy who makes the shit. C'mon...we are Bluelighters...let's do some real research and look into it. I see no scientific evidence to show that this is more harmful than alcohol! (ok bad example
But still...let's use some scientific method for a change Mkay?
Cool...peace....sorry for the second outburst.....
*hugs all 'round*
*big cheesy dimpled grin*
[This message has been edited by Darkblade (edited 17 January 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Darkblade (edited 17 January 2001).]