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Heavy MDA use lead to Heavy Heroin use due to "voices"

positive_orchid

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So about two years ago I ate the purest MDA I've ever had and it was so good that I ate it everyday for two months and like tictacs by the end. I'm not sure if you guys had access to those 'bolts' that came outta Oregon during this time but they had the signature lightning bolt on both sides and weighed 2.54 points. That's 2 and a half points of pure MDA plus a .04 binder. I had an unbelievably great time all the way until the end. By the end I started hearing Schizophrenic type voices (usually my husbands family who I was living with at the time). And for six months I was curled up in a ball under all of my pillows and blankets trying to block them out. Then soon after I was living in a false reality where I thought that I really could mentally communicate with them and they always had the harshist shit to say back. Like "Positive (My lover and soul mate) just leave her already she's not cut out to be apart of our family." When I could no longer take it I moved out and luckily my man came with me. (I'd be nothing without him.<3)

So we moved in with a close family member's girlfriend's house. And to bond and have our "Girl's Day" We smoked heroin together. My first time. And for the first time since it started I was able to go a few hours without hearing anyone, no more judgement from my peers. And I got hooked on that, as well as the drug. Soon after I started shooting heroin and fell in with the wrong group of kids (my roomies friends) in a very small town in Oregon. My partner's family had to stay with us cos they were homeless so we took them in but I had been strung out for some months now. And not only was I hearing their voices in my head but others as well. Everyone who lived in an adjoining apartment. And after finally hearing my "original voices" again I decided I was going to commit suicide. I ran away and yelled at him with onlookers "To get the fuck away from me" so I could finally be alone.

I knew that the trains ran regularly and I was destined to go out that way. I hid out under an over pass and as my eyes adjusted to the darkness I started to smell something. Something I've only smelled with days old road kill. I look to my right and see a shoe, a few feet from that what appeared to be a body covered in a blanket and ran. I soon found myself a few blocks over on another set of tracks but they were more well lit. The conductor saw me standing on the tracks and afraid he would slow down I hid behind a building. And right as I take my step out ready and determined I feel the train whiz past me inches from my face.

Unsuccessful I decide to drown myself in the river just a few blocks away. Been down there before at night and later during the day with the same plan was scared that one of the on lookers on the bike path would call the firefighters who had a boat for just this kind of situation. And walked my ass home at 7 in the morning to find my partner who was so worried stayed up all night crying and had just passed out. I knew from the moment I met him I wanted to spend the rest of my life with him growing organic food and making mead, with goats for milk and chickens for eggs. But in order to live with my voices I had to hide my heroin usage from his family. And without it I couldn't stand my life. I loathed myself. Everyday was another day of feeling worthless but if I could get that shot (or those shots) 8( I was able to care freely interact with his family again. Just like it used to be before this all started.

But when we didn't have money for dope we started trading our kitchen appliances, stereos, whatever the fuck our dealer wanted to trade or "hold" which we never got back.8) And ended up doing dope for almost two years. But with the knowledge and practices of Mantak Chia, Alan Watts, Eckhart Tolle and men like Micheal Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell and David Icke and especially Aleister Crowley I've been able to make a turn around and slowly (day by day) find peace these past few months. Especially through Taoist meditations. Just thought I would share that with you guys and see if anyone can relate.

P.S. When they say to take long breaks in between uses really take it seriously because you never know what kind of side effects might arise. I was with experienced users that tried to warn me but even they couldn't have predicted those extremes. Thanks for reading and any comments will be appreciated! :)
 
Hmm...although I am a current Heroin user (erry' day!) and I do realize the serenity and tranquility it can produce, I don't know if it would stop the voices-I'm guessing that's what your suggesting..?-because heroin releases MAAAD dopamine and schizophrenia/Auditory/Visual hallucinations are believed to be caused by an overflow of dopamine. Most of the time at least.
The first time I saw one of my best friends on heroin-he's currently off and this is before I'd ever tried it-he was having visual hallucinations. On Suboxone, the first time I did it, I had already looked it up and everything but I somehow missed the orange flavoring in it. Thought I got ripped off. Ate 3 8mg pills and for two days I was having visual hallucinations.
 
Subs are great for kicking. But I've never taken that much at one time. I usually start with one strip then quickly ween my way down to where I have extra for my husband to take the rest to kick. I ate over a hundred beans and was doing dmt regularly too..... When I first saw a Behavioral Health Specialist she said she usually only sees these symptoms in meth users. And MethyledioxyAmphetamine was said to have been the cause of some schizophrenic tendencies. AKA the voices. I still use dope. Just last week took two 5 mg valium and an hour later did a shot and OD'd for the first time a bit on accident. When I came to I had the hardest nod I've ever experienced, and my lips were blue. I guess my husband spent almost an hour to wake me. It's hard but I'm trying to get my shit straight and my life back on path. Oh and the darkness definitely helped with the voices.

I forgot to mention but I also thought people could see through my eyes..... And dope was the only way to have some piece of mind to do daily activities which then was really just nodding haha
 
No offense, but David icke and the likes are schizo's or pretend to be schizo's just so they can sell books.
I used to be into them when i was young so i know at this time u don't realize but these guys are really no good if u want peace of mind.

Not that nothing of what they say is true it's just laced with useless, mindpoisoning lies.
Even EckHart Tolle is a huge letdown... "Enjoy the now.. .Live in the now" - It'sreally easy to live in the now if u are as rich as him.

I'd love to see him live the life of the people at the bottom or even middle class of society who have to struggle each day to get by,
because multimillionaires, billionaires, multinationals and big banks decided it's time to reverse society back to Egypt's slave period.

Let's see how much he is in the now then.
About the voices, why not consider Antipsychotics?

It's Obvious you have some kind of chemical imbalance.
Even methadone would be better than Always having to worry about how to get the money for that next fix.

I also have a chemical imbalance, not schizophrenic but anxiety.
I tried all the meditation in the world and nothing could fix it.

Those meditation ppl' just care about selling books i think.
The only thing besides drugs that can make me feel at peace,
is when I fight for what i believe in and do all the right things i should be doing - care for myself, friends, family and society
 
Ok.. i have something similar happening.. here's my story, sorry OP if you think im stealing your thread but trust me, i think our stories are similar.

In my early teens I smoked a lot of weed, never had any problems stem from that... that I know of. But now hate it. Makes me have a different high than my "friends" would get. Also have drank alcohol on and off since then also, actually im drinking a beer right now lol. I know alcohol is addictive but it helps slow my mind down a bit.

Now to the point where my life turned upside down-

Back in '05-'06 used MDMA, MDA, and occasionally got ripped off with some pills being meth, doesn't surprise me though.
My only way to stop taking all that shit which I beleive was horrible for me (worse than opiates)
Started doing OC's for about a year than "graduated" to heroin unfortunately (cheaper but i preffered OC80's which were as expensive as 2g of H)
Stayed with H for a while.
Moved out of state with no connections, probably for the best.
In '08 started going to the methadone clinic in my new state, also a psychiatrist (was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder, anxiey, drug addiction).
After a few months at the done clinic I was fed up with going everyday, my psychiatrist told me 'done was "evil" and suggested going to a Suboxone Dr. so I did.
Was on Suboxone, Zyprexa, Clonidine, Vistaril, and on and off clonazepam. from sometime in '09- Feb of '13..
Lost my job after about two years couldn't afford Suboxone anymore. Unfortunatlely around that time my psychiatrist who I had built up a pretty good bond with and we trusted eachother and i never lied to him about anything, had been transferred to a new place in another state (keep in mind I lost my job so I was on the local hospitals financial assistance program so I needed to stay within their "group".)
Got a new psychiatrist didn't like him when I first met him so never got any meds from him.

Here comes the hardest part of my life..
Opiate, Antipsychotic, Heart meds, and Benzo w/ds all at once. (I'm surprised I lived through it all)
After that I had voices, music, hearing thoughts of others all in my head and being able to kinda predict some things they were going to happen.
Got pretty scared.

That lasted 8 months until I felt I would die if I didn'y get help.
Started taking kratom and etizolam.. since then have been VERY peranoid. VERY.
Went to the psychiatrist who I didn't really like and got put on risperdal.. didn't work, now am on perphenazine (can't tell if it is working.. still paranoid and don't trust anyone)

Was told that my bipolar disorder was actually schizoeffective (sp?) disorder.. that explains a lot.

Trying to figure out what caused all this, weird changes to my mind, think extremely fast and how I act.
I'm different than I ever was, feel smarter, feel prepared for anything thrown my way and stuff like that.

Feel like I have a second chance at life but those around me think im being my old self still, a jerk when I am nice to them thinking im just being sarcastic and a prick. I really am trying to better myself.

Got some vicodin last week for a boxers fracture (don't ask how I got that lol)
The voices and paranoia and EVERYTHING that was wrong with me was melted away after all that time clean.
I know I am not "addicted" to opiates anymore, I believe I just need them to be "normal". So i guess you could say im "dependant" on them? I donno.

So I have a choice, go back on suboxone and pay somehow until I feel i can work again to start paying for it. (Have applied for disabilty 3-4 times and always denied.. what the hell does it take for them to understand I can hardly be around family, nevermind start working somewhere I know no one and I dont trust anyone, plus I have mood swings often.) Anyways..

That is where I'm at now... stuck wondering what to do.
Suboxone would make me back to my normal self i KNOW it would.
Do i really wanna go back to that though? After all this time clean? Will the voices and all the extra shit eventually go away?
Or are opiates my only hope back to "sanity"?
I donno i'll stop writing, but I would like some advice, sorry OP but I feel our stories are similar. If you feel different than let me know and i'll erase this.
Right now am currently taking perphenazine 8mg/day, etizolam 10mg/day, and drink beer 4-5 cans a day. Oh yeah, also I have been smoking (cigarettes) for 12 years.

I gotta stop the etiz and beer and i know i can only do it, only with something to replace them.
I fear that the solution is opiates.


PS: I used to meditate daily, but my mind (for a year this month) has been going so fast with so many thoughts it is way to hard to clear them to actually be able to meditate. I know it helps, i just can't do it how i am now.
 
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