Marauder
Bluelighter
Acid aside, 2c-i stands as my favorite psychedelic right now. To me, it does feel like a combination of shrooms/acid and MDMA (or at least methylone.)
The come-up is about 40 minutes, at which time I feel nauseous* and have a "wait.. why do I trip? I feel sick as shit" feeling. I get this on shrooms as well. It lasts about 20 minutes where I am either walking or in fetal position to alleviate the bodily discomfort.
* The nausea is reduced if I eat a light meal (i.e., 1 toast, no dairy) 5 mins before or after taking the 2c-i. Meclizine doesn't seem to help.
The following hour is where things get interesting. Visuals kick in hard. Trails, vibrant colors, morphing, swirling, cartoonish faces, shine, exaggerated/cartoony details on people, severely detailed otherwise mundane surfaces, etc. Similar to a high dose mushroom trip or a shroomahuasca trip.
Mentally I become very uplifted. Music sounds heavenly and I become very talkative/social. I get a lot of energy and dancing becomes fluid.
At the peak the external stimuli can become intense enough that I need to be somewhere dark sitting with music on to ride it out.
2c-i comes and goes in waves. There are times where I suddenly feel like I came down, and then without warning begin tripping hard again.
Throughout all of this, I feel 100% in control.*
Now let's talk about side effects from heavy/chronic use.
I take 15-18mg a trip. I have only gone as far as 22-24mg. I am predisposed to psychosis and therefore a deep fear of ego death/high doses. I have had bad trips on most psychedelics and have had my share of high-dose-oh-shit-i-did-it-this-time scares, but I have never had long lasting psychotic effects from any psychedelic. The only drug that has made me truly delusional was caffeine at 800mg.
I don't use 2c-i often under normal circumstances, but got hold of free time and a huge supply and so have been using it a lot. About 4 times a week.
I have no lasting visuals or any other effects except perhaps a positive afterglow. I feel serene, calm, happy for a day or two afterwards. No strange effect on dreams/sleep though taking 2c-i messes with my appetite (I don't eat while tripping, which can be bad) but this is expected. I also feel physically tired when it wears off (but mentally alert.)
I smoke a lot of jwh everyday. I'm always high on jwh or weed or both. There has been no interaction between the drugs except for the fact that when tripping, I can't get high. I feel "higher" than a weed high and so it doesn't affect me much. I can "see" the cannabis headspace as if I am observing it from a distance, but it doesn't necessarily affect my behavior until the 2c-i wears off.
Commonly reported long-lasting effects from 2c-i are HPPD (persisting visuals) and dysphoria/depression or mental instability, esp after a very heavy dose. There is an erowid report of a guy who took 250mg (mistaking it for methylone) and had persistent depression and minor HPPD.
What has YOUR experience been with high doses? To me, the "intensity" in terms of "fuck I'm about to lose my mind! what does that mean? what IS a mind?" mindfuckness of 2c-i at doses of 20mg+ are not as intense as a high dose mushroom trip. It might be because 2c-i comes and goes in waves, and so when I am at the brink of entering a confused psychedelic state, the effects taper down and let me re-orient my thoughts before going back up.
I believe that drugs as potent as 2c-i, which require dosing in the 0.010g range, are very likely to result in negative effects because many users eye ball doses. The difference between a few mg is VERY significant. It's hard to OD on mushrooms because a gram of mushrooms only contains a few mg of psilocybin. A psilocybin extract being spread around to recreational drug users will likely result in negative trip reports as well. I'm not defending 2c-i but this is something worth noting when analyzing people's reaction to this drug on a wide scale.
The come-up is about 40 minutes, at which time I feel nauseous* and have a "wait.. why do I trip? I feel sick as shit" feeling. I get this on shrooms as well. It lasts about 20 minutes where I am either walking or in fetal position to alleviate the bodily discomfort.
* The nausea is reduced if I eat a light meal (i.e., 1 toast, no dairy) 5 mins before or after taking the 2c-i. Meclizine doesn't seem to help.
The following hour is where things get interesting. Visuals kick in hard. Trails, vibrant colors, morphing, swirling, cartoonish faces, shine, exaggerated/cartoony details on people, severely detailed otherwise mundane surfaces, etc. Similar to a high dose mushroom trip or a shroomahuasca trip.
Mentally I become very uplifted. Music sounds heavenly and I become very talkative/social. I get a lot of energy and dancing becomes fluid.
At the peak the external stimuli can become intense enough that I need to be somewhere dark sitting with music on to ride it out.
2c-i comes and goes in waves. There are times where I suddenly feel like I came down, and then without warning begin tripping hard again.
Throughout all of this, I feel 100% in control.*
Now let's talk about side effects from heavy/chronic use.
I take 15-18mg a trip. I have only gone as far as 22-24mg. I am predisposed to psychosis and therefore a deep fear of ego death/high doses. I have had bad trips on most psychedelics and have had my share of high-dose-oh-shit-i-did-it-this-time scares, but I have never had long lasting psychotic effects from any psychedelic. The only drug that has made me truly delusional was caffeine at 800mg.
I don't use 2c-i often under normal circumstances, but got hold of free time and a huge supply and so have been using it a lot. About 4 times a week.
I have no lasting visuals or any other effects except perhaps a positive afterglow. I feel serene, calm, happy for a day or two afterwards. No strange effect on dreams/sleep though taking 2c-i messes with my appetite (I don't eat while tripping, which can be bad) but this is expected. I also feel physically tired when it wears off (but mentally alert.)
I smoke a lot of jwh everyday. I'm always high on jwh or weed or both. There has been no interaction between the drugs except for the fact that when tripping, I can't get high. I feel "higher" than a weed high and so it doesn't affect me much. I can "see" the cannabis headspace as if I am observing it from a distance, but it doesn't necessarily affect my behavior until the 2c-i wears off.
Commonly reported long-lasting effects from 2c-i are HPPD (persisting visuals) and dysphoria/depression or mental instability, esp after a very heavy dose. There is an erowid report of a guy who took 250mg (mistaking it for methylone) and had persistent depression and minor HPPD.
What has YOUR experience been with high doses? To me, the "intensity" in terms of "fuck I'm about to lose my mind! what does that mean? what IS a mind?" mindfuckness of 2c-i at doses of 20mg+ are not as intense as a high dose mushroom trip. It might be because 2c-i comes and goes in waves, and so when I am at the brink of entering a confused psychedelic state, the effects taper down and let me re-orient my thoughts before going back up.
I believe that drugs as potent as 2c-i, which require dosing in the 0.010g range, are very likely to result in negative effects because many users eye ball doses. The difference between a few mg is VERY significant. It's hard to OD on mushrooms because a gram of mushrooms only contains a few mg of psilocybin. A psilocybin extract being spread around to recreational drug users will likely result in negative trip reports as well. I'm not defending 2c-i but this is something worth noting when analyzing people's reaction to this drug on a wide scale.
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