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Heavy 1,4 user, no problems yet.....

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I was wondering if there are any other HEAVY 1,4 Butanediol users out there. I use 3ml about every 3 hours (during the night too) and have been doing so for a good year now. I have yet to have any medical problems. I had a blood test done about 6 months ago and my results were pretty good. Liver enzymes were a little high (nothing to worry about) but I have also used steroids and think they may be the cause for that. To my knowledge there is no proof that 1,4 is toxic so I was just wondering if anyone has had any problems using it in large amounts.
 
not a good idea...even after one night out on G (7, 8 ml in all) I had the runs real bad and my stomach felt like complete and utter shit, plus I had a toxic feeling all over my body...not nice.
if you really HAVE TO take it loads of times during the day, I would strongly reccomend you find NaGHB.
 
Your frequent use does pose a possible problem or question for concern. I have been drinkin that stuff (GHB, 1,4,GBL) whatever on and off for 5 years now. Since you use every day, every couple of hours, you should address the fact of when you stop, the harsh reality of a severe comedown and withdrawal. Out of all the drugs out there, I would rank G among the worst in terms of its withdrawal symptoms after habitual use-I am talking uncontrollable muscle spasms, crazy shakes, cold sweats, and something that should be handled through the supervision of a med. Benzos and sleep-aid will do the job in a 3-week taper (sound efficient for you). Anyhow, if you never want to stop or think you will be doing this for the rest of your life, then you don't have to worry. This is just my 2 cents, and if you have any further questions feel free to get at me...been there
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Hey Circuit, that 2nd. link shows 1,4 to be safe to be handled in factorys. It doesnt show it being safe to be ingested.
 
No problems Eh...... try stopping for awhile.
It also may cause cancer.....but you don'thave to worry about that now.....
Do you ever wonder why you would need to ingest this stuff like insulin? Seems foolish to me. But then again a lot of thigs are foolish I guess. Why not hook your self on somthing a little safer?
[This message has been edited by Dr. Quack (edited 17 August 2001).]
 
TOX-54
NTP Summary Report on the Metabolism, Disposition and Toxicity of 1,4-Butanediol (CAS No. 110-63-4)
I have a good feeling that Metabolism being the first word there indicates ingestion.
Here's one from the New England Journal of Medicine and it shows that 1,4 is toxic....but in a way that we all know about anyway.http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/344/2/87
 
Dr. Quack, I've never heard it can cause cancer. Is there a certain kind of cancer and how do you know this? Thanks!
 
Its not toxic...Swim knows a few people that were getting it from chem supply the problem is that it is not food grade/consumable grade and has tiny metals in it, that is why people were getting sick. grab 4 water filters pre soak with water then filter through 2 water filters 2 times. that will fix stomach aches etc.
 
I read somewhere that this stuff is bio-converted into GHB via the liver. Apparently this makes it more toxic than GHB. However because relatively large amounts of GHB need to be consumed the sodium or potassium content can also negatively compromise you're health. Obviously you are habituated but I hear a tolerance never manifests itself with constant use of this drug. That is my major reason for withdrawing from any drug; I am wasting good drugs by them not getting me high. Is it possible to freebase NaGHB?
 
i can't believe you still use this worthless shit. i used it heavily for about 5 months. it doesn't really give a *high*, just knocks you out. i did it at work a few times and found myself nodding off like i had narcolepsy(sp). worthless shit in my opinion.
side effects? none
 
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