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Healthy Eating: Fat Free? I think not.

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Hey guys,

So, I'm a trifle annoyed / continue to be lost for words with regards to the amount of misinformation about healthy eating & the products that claim to be healthy in our supermarkets. I thought this deserved it's own thread.

I'm fairly interested in healthy eating, always have been, but what with weight training, having had diabetic symptoms, albeit briefly, & having on-going mild IBS cropping up every once in a while, it tends to at the top of my priorities at the moment.

What is pissing me off today, as the title suggests is this fat free nonsense. People are still obsessed with the idea that fats are bad for your health & will make you... fat!

Of course, they are calorie dense & as such it's easier to go overboard but they really aren't all that bad for your health. All you have to do is look at the Mediterranean diet which is high in 'healthy' fats (i.e. not saturated). The reason I put healthy in apostrophes is because no food is inherently healthy or unhealthy... it all comes down to how much you have.

I don't have any links (too lazy) but I believe there have been studies that have shown that even diets high in saturated fats aren't necessarily as bad for the heart as they are made out to be. Also, let's not forget that we actually require a minimum amount of fats for our bodies (hormones) to function properly, which includes a small amount of saturated fats.

So, what is the real problem then? A quick look over the nutritional information on many fat free yoghurts or probiotics will quickly reveal the problem; they are packed full of fast absorbing sugars. We've all heard of having a sweet tooth... well that's because the more you eat, the more your body craves it.

That begs the question - why does healthy eating continue to be marketed to the masses as being low in fats? Simply because for your average Mr. Joe who is overweight & eats McDonalds every day, cutting fats out of his diet is the easiest way to bring his weight under control cutting down the risk the myriad of health conditions associated with that. Also, because your health conscious will instantly snap up your products simply because they are "fat free" & they don't know any better.

The irony is, the people who are health conscious will not only end up eating too little fat, but they will also be ignoring the high sugar content of their foods that claim to be healthy. Thus, it is the health conscious that end up suffering from the misconception that fat is bad for you.

I completely understand why it is sensible to tell the public at large to eat less fat because many people have diets that are high in fat & it's a lot more effective & easier to understand than cutting sugars out your diet. I have noticed more campaigns about sugar but still, it doesn't make up for the years of misinformation with regards to fats that have been ingrained into the public psyche.

Rant over.

A bit more with regards to sugar: Sweet Poison: why sugar is ruining our health
 
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I completely understand why it is sensible to tell the public at large to......

Aren't the people who need to be told what to eat beyond help or just don't care ?
After all it's not rocket science to eat a balanced diet. If you're eating a balanced diet then a few sugary treats isn't going to do much harm ?
IME people who are properly health conscious tend to cook more stuff from scratch so sugar appearing in everything doesn't really effect them anyway. The people I know who are obsessed with 'low fat' foods are more concerned with being thin rather than being healthy ( and are probably the least healthy people I know as a result )
IMO the information is out there for those that want to find it, the state should keep out of it all these public campaigns like '5 a day' 'sugar is bad' 'fat is bad' seems to be a waste of public money and just justifies somebodies job.
On this issues the state is pretty useless on the whole. I'm thinking here mostly of schools ; they teach the kids about healthy eating, ban crap foods as much as possible from packed lunches but theres nothing stopping the kids that have school dinner choosing chips 5 days a week.
If anything they should look at energy drinks, those things are dreadful IMO


edit - just noticed you're from Scotland... no offence but that made me chuckle. Most of the scots I know have terrible diets. I still occasionally refer to chips as a Glasgow salad
 
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unfortunately, until eating healthy isnt way more expensive than eating crap I feel a lot of people dont really care.

I cant be assed to cook a well-rounded breakfast when I usually wake up around 7:30, have work in an hour, and not showering isnt an option for me because I like to be clean. When I get out of the shower its usually around 7:50 and then I get dressed and leave for work.

aka, I eat a lot of cereal

I know this isnt exactly what the OP was talking about Im just saying in general, not eating healthy is far more convenient and we live in the age of convenience.
 
No need to cook anything for breakfast... i eat salad, tuna, fruit for breakfast... slap it together in a couple mins. easy
 
tuna for breakfast god damn thats European

I'll be at McDonalds
 
I think it comes down to how committed you are about healthy eating... I always go out of my way to have time to cook a proper meal. I think I am fortunate in that I enjoy cooking. I usually listen to some music or watch TV whilst I cook though, so it's still down time.

Back when I was employed I would prepare my lunch the night before & get up 30 minutes earlier to have a good breakfast. I'm sure when I get a job again, I'll continue with that.
 
What is the question here or is it just a rant? Not sure why what other people choose to eat would get you so wound up personally!

For breakfast I either have a breakfast shake (20g protein and 5g fibre) with some fruit, or if I'm not doing anything I have the shake with a bacon/sausage sanwich and usually half a grapefruit afterwards. Sometimes have cereal but I know it's garbage.

edit:Wish I wasn't such a lazy cunt and could get my arse out of bed early enough to eat properly before work/uni but the time in bed always seems more appealing.
 
I know it's not hard to take a few minutes out of your day to prepare a healthy meal or two, but that would cut into my sit-around-in-my-underwear-on-the-computer time tbh
 
After all it's not rocket science to eat a balanced diet. If you're eating a balanced diet then a few sugary treats isn't going to do much harm ?

To be fair, even people who believe they are eating a healthy, balanced diet will be eating a lot more sugar than they think. There is a lot of 'hidden' sugar in the food we buy.

I think it's worse in America though but having those sugary treats, means you are having too much unless you are very strict about what you eat.

What is the question here or is it just a rant?

As below.

Rant over.
 
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I remember this guy at work buying this "healthy salad" whatever the fuck it was.... he was a bit of a porker trying to lose weight.... even though we worked in a steel stockholder and were lifting steel around all day and on our feet all day etc, read the contents and it had a redicilious amount of saturated fat in it, unhealthy shite
 
To be fair, even people who believe they are eating a healthy, balanced diet will be eating a lot more sugar than they think. There is a lot of 'hidden' sugar in the food we buy.

And thats why I said the people who really care cook from scratch. I think most people know that anything, even the weight watchers crap, wrapped in plastic is going to have more salt, sugar and preservatives than anything we would make at home.

Like you said, its a question of how committed you are. And as everyone else said, its a question of convenience
 
I eat and drink what I want, when I want. Yet still maintain a healthy weight.
 
When you're younger you can eat what you like, drink what you like, and still climb into your 26" waist trousers and zip them closed. Then you reach that age, 24-25, your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag, and without any warning at all you're suddenly a fat bastard
 
My diet ain't so great so can't really say much on this. I would agree that cooking for yourself is almost certainly gonna be better for you than any of those "Healthy Option" ready meals and the like though. I likes me buttery sauces and stuff - cos it tastes nice - but I wouldn't eat them daily and I'd certainly not think I was eating healthier living off supermarket "Healthy Option" stuff either. I've also heard quite a bit recently about the emphasis on fats whilst ignoring sugars is completely the wrong way round. Makes sense to me. Fats are calorific but also very filling - sugary stuff is just instant energy followed by crash and desire for more sugary stuff.

tuna for breakfast god damn thats European

No, that's Dan. There's surely a few beetroot slapped in there with the tuna too. It's not a European thing, it's a Dan thing I can assure you ;)

I'll be at McDonalds

Perhaps not a European thing but a fairly British thing. Not for me but can assure you MuckyD's does brisk bizniz of a morn here too.
 
Perhaps not a European thing but a fairly British thing. Not for me but can assure you MuckyD's does brisk bizniz of a morn here too.

What they even have a Mac Dees in that town i know you live in, now ? 8o

Only tried a Mac Dees breakfast once, i think i was hungover, once i got over the fact that the sausages were shaped like burgers, and the eggs in no way resembled eggs, it was quite edible, some kind of battered potato fritters type stuff was nice too. Excellent hangover food, but otherwise wouldnt really bother. Why is it common to crave fatty greasy food when hungover, anyone know?
 
What they even have a Mac Dees in that town i know you live in, now ? 8o

Lawdy no. I think there'd be lynchings before that ever happened. They're still obsessed with keeping Tesco out (I'm guessing that was going on whilst you were here too cos I know it's been going on forever) so can you even imagine the uproar if MuckyD's - or any fast food place - tried to open a branch here?!? The chippy just won best chippy in the country though - it's still horribly bad for you but at least it's good quality with it.

I've never been able to even try a MuckyD's brekky cos it all involves that faux egg stuff. Actual eggs make me vomit so wouldn't want to even think what that stuff would do to me. I think the greasy food cravings when hungover is probably more to do with salts and stuff than the grease. Although maybe grease helps line the stomach and get rid of the worst of the queasiness. You definitely do crave savouries and grease when hungover though.
 
And thats why I said the people who really care cook from scratch. I think most people know that anything, even the weight watchers crap, wrapped in plastic is going to have more salt, sugar and.........than anything we would make at home.

Lol not if you like to make tasty food it doesn't. Almost everything in the way of ready meals etc is undersalted IMO.
 
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