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health concerns after years of dxm use

shpongle1987

shpongle1987

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Since about 2004 i estimate i have had over 500 dxm trips. IM 23 now and have been cutting down my use ALOT becasue i think it is taking a tole on my mental and physical health. A couple of years ago i started getting mild chest pains and every time i would trip my left arm would feel really weird especailly if i smoke weed when im tripping. When i got into a really bad phase and was taking high doses of dxm every day for about a year or two with the excpetion of maybe 15 days where i didnt trip, the pshysical effects got really bad to the point that i asked my gf to take me to the hospital becasue i felt like there was a refrigerator on my chest and it was almost impossible to breathe. The feeling only lasted about 30 mins but it was terrifying. Also i have become socially awkward with most people i meet, and when i was younger i never had a problem talking/ meeting new people. So i was wondering if that mite have been a result of some sort of brain damage/ or possibly i could have just made myself go insane and just havent realized it yet. So i was wondering if there was any other people out there that went through a dxm abuse phase like me that have had any side effects from using the drug long term.
 
but yeah i agree with the im fucked part....did too much too quick....if i could take it back i would in a second. If i only knew about "everything in moderation" when i was younger.
 
it would've been better actually if you knew more about being happy enough to not robotrip every day for 2 years
 
lmao and what the fuck @ the above conversation

on a more serious note, unfortunately i cannot answer your more specific questions...but have you discontinued use? my personal opinion is that you should discontinue use of any/all drugs besides weed (maybe). since you are young(er) maybe your body will be able to recover from whatever damage you MAY have caused long term. once you feel better (if/when) then maybe approach drug use in a RESPONSIBLE way again after that.
 
now you have me trying to think back and reemmeber what my mental status was like when i started abusing it. I dont know if it was depression or what. I remember i started out smoking alot of weed and i always wanted to try tripping but i couldnt find anywhere to get lsd/mushrooms ect. and when i found dxm i just feel in love with the dissociative effect and it got to the point where i felt normal when i was under the influence of dxm rather then what i was sober instead of the opposite way around. Im sure depression was mixed in there along with bordem and just being immature thinking if i take the drug enough then it mite change the way i experience reality. Im still not sure though, i think I just became mentally addicted becasue i loved the drug so much. To this day it is still my favorite drug and i have tried mostly every common psychedelic LSD,ketamine,mushrooms,mescaline,dmt,mdma, ect.. but dxm still ranks the highest in terms of the intensity/experience. (oh btw i only drank robotussin 4 times out of all of my dxm trips all the rest was either extracted crystals or powder from a chemical supplier back when it was still easy to get offline)
 
yeah i have stopped pretty much everything except dmt....i mean i have been to the docs multiple times, gotten my heart checked, liver, brain and theres no noticeable damage....but yeah thats what my mindset has been for the past year...stop everything and let my body get back to a healthy state then after i feel better i think i could do some more exploring but defiantly in a responsible way
 
what the hell... DXM is such a weird drug

I absolutely loved it but only got about 15-20 good trips out of it before it "lost the magic"...

Now no matter how long I wait even half a year all the psychedelic effects are pretty much gone and replaced with confusion and brain dead feeling...

Used to be an amazing trip though...

Can't belive you have used it 500+ times...
 
yeah ive heard of alot of people say after they take is 20-30 times their trips arent even close to as good as they were when they first started but i always used to dose it differently and when it comes to dxm doseing over a period of 2-3 periodically is the trick to making the trip get to its full potential...for example if you dose about 120mgs every 30 mins for 2 hours your trip will be WAY more intense if you just take the whole 480 mgs all at once.....few people know that.
 
I don't think you are in any real trouble here. I've abused DXM far worse than that and have discovered that if you properly supplement your body it seems to be relatively free of side effects, at least in the short term (I'm in my mid forties so we'll have to wait and see about long term). Anyway, the key is very similar to high dose GHB management - rule one, stay alkalized. This is easily accomplished with green kamut, white grapefruit, watermelon, and lemons. Lots of greens help in general. The next important thing is to realize that DXM seems to deplete a couple of vitamins, so I supplement with high dose B-complex, biotin, and high dose C intake. This regimen allowed me to take a gram a day of DXM for nearly a year, every day, without any apparent issues. Those here who comment that this is a side effect of some mood disorder are mistaken. There are those of us who determine specifically to research things on pour own since nobody has yet provided any real reliable first hand data about these things. Did it hurt me? I doubt it. I take 600mg any ol time I feel like writing music. No problem at all. Not that I recommend this to anyone else, I may very well be injuring myself. That being said, all my blood tests show prime health throughout, so that pretty much clears up the issue of liver/kidney damage, yeah?

The other very real concern with heavy DXM use is the cross indications with other drugs. Aside from keeping tabs on your own delusions from occasional sigma activation, I'd say DXM is a lot safer than generally thought.
 
Thanks alot man that was really helpful/uplifting. Ive told countless doc's about how much dxm i have abused in the past and that i am concerned with long term health effects and they all tell me not to worry and hearing that from you pretty much seals the deal. Im curious as to what the highest dose of dxm youve ever tried in one sitting....anywhere over 2grams? Ive done a little bit less then 2 grams one time and when it kicked in i immediatly thought i had died i because the dissociation/ hallucinations were so powerful that i thought there was no possible way any living person could be seeing what i was seeing. I then blacked out for about 5 hours and came too a couple miles away from my house not knowing how i got there (shoulda had a trip sitter). To this day i have dreams that are almost like flashbacks that show me what i was seeing/doing while i was blacked out but every time i wake up i remember it for a couple of mins and forget it again.....to this day im not positive what happened in the 5 hours i was blacked out but i imagine its one of those things where what ever i saw/experienced mite have been too powerful for my brain to comprehend so its defense was to block it out (ive heard the same things happens sometimes in dreams when dmt is being released,that is your brain not letting you remember the experience because it cannot handle/ comprehend it)
 
Nah man I never went that high. Understand that I always potentiate with white grapefruit. To answer your question though, I once downed two bottles of Zicam (540mg each) along with a liter of white grapefruit. Pure and simple overdose that was. I know how scary those ultra high DXM trips are. People sdon't believe me when I say that its way harder than high dose acid or shrooms. At least with acid and shrooms there is that little voice you have that talks to you to tell you to keep your wits about you. Not with overdose DXM. EVERYTHING goes away. Indeed, I'd compare it with an eight hour salvia trip, only difference that it comes on slowly and just keeps building.

Anyway, glad to help put you at ease, stay safe and keep your wits and you'll be okay!

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white grape fruit really makes the trip more intense? I always thought grapefruit helped a lsd trip but ive never heard of it helping out dxm
 
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