HCG a must on TRT?

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Draven26

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Would HCG be a must on TRT? Gonna talk to my Endocrinologist tomorrow and hopefully he can prescribe me some because I’ve been on it for 3 years but I am also going to talk to him about the dosage because I’ve been on 100 mg and I definitely need up the dose but I just wanted to know your experiences with HCG and what to watch out for. Cheers!
 
Never used hcg. Never had issues. Gotten 2 women pregnant while on blasts so not concerned about my fertility. Some people report psychological benefits which I assume come from the benefits upstream in the hormone cascade
 
Necessary? No.

However a small subset find it’s needed as we’ve seen in another recent thread regarding libido, among other things. Have seen that in a small percentage of users
 
Seems to me it was pretty conclusively accepted that it helped the body not shut down natural production. Kind of a PCT while on a cycle. Given how it all works, makes sense. Arguably it could make financial sense, as whatever you spend on it, you use less test overall, over time.
 
Draven26 said:
Would HCG be a must on TRT? Gonna talk to my Endocrinologist tomorrow and hopefully he can prescribe me some because I’ve been on it for 3 years but I am also going to talk to him about the dosage because I’ve been on 100 mg and I definitely need up the dose but I just wanted to know your experiences with HCG and what to watch out for. Cheers!
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There has been discussion hCG via inducing LH can contribute to higher amounts of R.O.S and subsequent damage to the testes..
 
Genetic Freak said:
There has been discussion hCG via inducing LH can contribute to higher amounts of R.O.S and subsequent damage to the testes..
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The intra-testicular estrogen production right? I remember the article about it before. Think it could be the link of why it seems modern steroid users seem (on average) to have a poorer rate of recovery than the pre-hcg era?
 
Do you guys have any additional information/experiences or studies about the HCGs negative effects on the testes? It would be really appreciated.

If a person was to B&C is it useful or should it be avoided. I know i read a few years ago that the leydig cells could get desensitized but that was supposedly disproven. All the big forums (meso rx, excelmale) are recommending HCG for trt / b&c because you prevent atrophy and leydig cell death and also because of other hormones that get shut down with androgens.

What is it with this intra testicular estrogen production and its negative effect? I read that 17oh progesterone is supposedly a good marker to follow and compare to natty 17oh progesterone levels to dial in your hcg dosage. Is this related?

Thanks for the reply/s.
 
TRT kills my libido and sensitivity over time. I use HCG to combat this. And also I don't want my balls to shrink from long term T use, so HCG helps offset that a bit.

More discomforting is that my balls go up inside of my body on TRT which is maddening. On HCG they stay normal size.
 
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