HBWR Oral v.s. Extraction? When should one worry about vasoconstriction?

[muie]

I love LSD and I love LSA unfortunatley i've only had LSD 3-4 times and LSA (proper trips) 2-3 times from M.G. seeds (200+ chewed up..disgusting)...I always threw up but managed to get by through the nausea.

Everytimes i've had M.G. i've thrown up within the first hour of the experience, yet stomach cramps and such calmed down 1hr after all the vomiting.

I've never tried HBWR but its in my plans, considering that i would scrape off the outer shell and chop/grind it smoothly I have a few question:

Lets say i take a moderate dose (orally) 6-8 seeds,

1) Is it necessary to do the extraction? What are the bennefits?

2) When should one worry about vasoconstriction? (above 10+ seeds, etc)

3) If i just scrape the shell off and do as I said, would I eliminate the nausea with ginger and/or gravol?

4) In your opinion/aproximation how many M.G. seeds would equivalate 1 HBWR seed?

p.s. do you always do an extraction, i was under the impression that those are done for large amounts or if you want a few doses handy, please feel free to elaborate

Many thanks

 

[sekio]

1. The major benefit is you're not eating the (toxic, indigestible) seed coating
2. Vasoconstriction is always a worry with "dirty" psychedelics, although high doses are more worrisome than low doses
3. Maybe, but LSA does cause nausea on its own as well
4. Nobody can tell you, as different varieties of HBWR or MG will have varying levels of alkaloids. I would call a good "rule of thumb" 200 MG seeds to 1 HBWR, but you should titrate that yourself.

 

[ParappaTheRapper]

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-I would lean more towards 20-50 seeds per 1 HBWR.

 

[daytryptr]

Seed potency varies widely, however i've heard fresh seeds are the most potent. Perhaps people who are eating hundreds of seeds for good affects are using store bought/old seeds.

 

[sekio]

Most of the dosages for MG seeds I have seen are in the hundreds to thousands of store-bought e.g. Heavenly Blues.