Having a bad crackout/comedown/crash. Please help?

[Lenux]

Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, I thought I should give this forum a try cause I'm in deep.

Please note that I haven't taken ecstasy in a long time. I used to do it long time ago so I haven't done it for like about 6~8 month? so this is my first time in a GREAT while.
This past weekend I'v taken 2 rolls and am having an extreme sickness. I'm feeling anxiety, depression, headache, dizziness, and nauseous. I've taken purple party flocker. The story goes like this now: On saturday midnight, I've taken half of purple party flocker then 5 hours later i took another half. at around 10 AM (another 5 hours later) i've taken one full purple party flocker. I was feeling fine when I came home on saturday afternoon. On sunday, when I woke up i felt fine but around afternoon i've started to feeling sick. Ever since then I've been feeling anxiety, depression, headache, dizziness, and nauseous. Mostly headache, dizziness, and nauseous is what making me feel extremely unpleasant. I can barely manage to stand up and walk. I mean it's manageable but it's also a pain in the ass. I've been taking those vitaminc C 1,000mg pocket powder thingy where you put it in water and drink it. I was doing some research, reading about the bad comedowns and whatnot in this forum and other forums and im suspecting i have depleted my serotonin and that's what's causing my anxiety/depression.
I'm feeling really bad please help. I mean, how long will this last? it's been almost 3 days and usually my crackout/comedown doesn't last this long (compare to long time ago). Isn't crackout/comedown lasts 2 days at top?

And usually, my limit is one (so yes I went overboard).
Also, ever since sunday, my emotions been all over the place. like I would found myself being sad easily. since i noticed it, i believe i can control it

 

[Folley]

Isn't crackout/comedown lasts 2 days at top?

There is no set time for how long a "comedown" should last.. I've had one that seemed to last for a month at the least, but that was after abusing heavily on a weekly basis for over a half year.

2 Party Flocks is a pretty high dose, 400-440mg if you took the ones that have been lab tested.



Life goes on though, and learning about what happened to you really won't make things any better... you ought to be looking into how to keep it from happening again. Just some advice, people often focus too heavily on the negative effects and make them much worse on themselves.

You'll live

 

[Lenux]

Thanks folly, I rarely roll. How long do you think my comedown's gonna last? because I really really want to feel normal again. my friends are fairly hardcore and usually i dont roll with them but this time i wanted to so that i can have fun with them (since it's been a while). I should never went over my limit, but i did to keep up with them which is my fault on my part.

 

[dpd_mnk92]

There is no way anyone will be able to predict with any accuracy when your comedown will end as everyone reacts differently. Having said that, since you have not been abusing the drug (despite one moderately high dose), you really should be fine in no time.

To speed up the recovery process, eat a good high tryptophan diet, get some exercise in, spend some time in the sun, possibly look into some supplements (multivitamin and omega 3 is a good starting point) and be patient. This last part is very important. Admittedly, it's hard not to freak out/ jump to conclusions when your chemical imbalance is temporarily off, but it is exactly that - temporary. I doubt, with your history of usage, anything permanent would have happened.

 

[Pretty_Diamonds]

Eat healthy, get some rest, and 5-htp. You'll be all better in no time! Try to continue as normal and not get sucked into a depressive phase or anything. The mind is quite powerful.

 

[StrutterGear]

You could be better in a few days if you chilled out, ate some good food (get some fruit salads, smoothies and shit down your neck), got some good, regular sleep and stop panicking

 

[Lenux]

Thank you dpd_mnk92, pretty_diamonds, and StrutterGear for your advice and replies. I just woke up and I'm feeling a bit fine, little better than before. Still feeling the dizziness and whatnot though, but I think it's getting better haha. Next time if I do roll, I'm for sure going to stick with just half or one only. Anywho, I got a question and are any of the damages from rolling & crackout permanent?? as in my situation where I rarely roll. Also, If I were to abuse rolling, let say doing it every weekend or every other weekend, then I'd be doing permanent damage to my body/brain right? Are all these damages fully, if not mostly recoverable? giving time of course. I'm just wondering. thank you guys again for your great advice. I appreciated.

 

[Folley]

Thank you dpd_mnk92, pretty_diamonds, and StrutterGear for your advice and replies. I just woke up and I'm feeling a bit fine, little better than before. Still feeling the dizziness and whatnot though, but I think it's getting better haha. Next time if I do roll, I'm for sure going to stick with just half or one only. Anywho, I got a question and are any of the damages from rolling & crackout permanent?? as in my situation where I rarely roll. Also, If I were to abuse rolling, let say doing it every weekend or every other weekend, then I'd be doing permanent damage to my body/brain right? Are all these damages fully, if not mostly recoverable? giving time of course. I'm just wondering. thank you guys again for your great advice. I appreciated.

That's kind of a loaded question..


Are the symptoms recoverable? Yes, almost completely.

Can it be permanent.. well... yes, but only in the most EXTREME of cases. The brain does an amazing job at adapting to the changes in and around itself though, it's constantly changing and rewiring itself to function better and one use even at a MUCH higher dose than you took isn't going to ruin anyone's life.


It takes me about 4 days to a week to really recover from a strong roll these days, although after my extreme level of abuse I had a comedown that made me feel AWFUL for months. I though about suicide during that time, often. Here I still am though, happiest I've been in my life


Life goes on, and you'll get better. Trust me on that. The longer you focus on the negative symptoms, the longer you'll block yourself out from noticing the positive ones!

 

[pokepoke420]

I took some MDMA on Friday, felt fantastic Saturday & Sunday. Monday came around and I found those nasty after-effects finally hitting me. I felt so digusting and sluggish. It was hard to get out of bed in the morning. I managed to push myself to the gym, and while it wasn't a typical work out for me, it still helped me feel so much better. Today is Wednesday, and I feel like I am already past the worst.

I HIGHLY suggest you force yourself to do something active, no matter how weak/dizzy you feel. Of course, don't over-do it. Personally, for me, it takes an entire month to over-come all of the negative feelings associated from MDMA consumption. After about the first week I start feeling better though. Give it 1-4 weeks, but I am sure the most noticeable side effects will subside within 1-2 weeks. Try to eat healthy, and lift some weights. I have never tried 5-HTP, but I have heard it does help. Try caffeinated drinks like a coke or something as well. Hope you start feeling better.

 

[Lenux]

That's kind of a loaded question..


Are the symptoms recoverable? Yes, almost completely.

Can it be permanent.. well... yes, but only in the most EXTREME of cases. The brain does an amazing job at adapting to the changes in and around itself though, it's constantly changing and rewiring itself to function better and one use even at a MUCH higher dose than you took isn't going to ruin anyone's life.


It takes me about 4 days to a week to really recover from a strong roll these days, although after my extreme level of abuse I had a comedown that made me feel AWFUL for months. I though about suicide during that time, often. Here I still am though, happiest I've been in my life


Life goes on, and you'll get better. Trust me on that. The longer you focus on the negative symptoms, the longer you'll block yourself out from noticing the positive ones!

Thank you Folley. I really appreciate you sharing your experiences with me and giving me a great advice. Thanks so much. Hearing these words makes me feel a bit better and reassures me.

It's really tough to think positive when I'm like 6 feet under. Every advice seems like just another word and has no real meaning. I'm coping with difficulties and only negative thoughts seem to matter. It's hard and it sucks. All I know is that I just need to ride it out. But after seeking for bluelight for help was a bit different and you guys made a difference for me to think otherwise. I guess it's because you guys went through or are going through what I'm going through. Positive thinking do matter and I really need to realize that. I really need to keep in mind that if I'm going to focus on negative, I should be better off focusing on positive instead because it's what gives me hope and strength to improve. Thanks Folley, you're a really great support. And my thanks goes to all the people here in Bluelight.
Right now, I'm feeling a bit better. Feeling kind of dizzy here and there. minor headache and nauseous. at one point, I felt like I'm just gonna die and i thought it was a matter of time but it was just negativity and doubt that was eating me up.

 

[Lenux]

I took some MDMA on Friday, felt fantastic Saturday & Sunday. Monday came around and I found those nasty after-effects finally hitting me. I felt so digusting and sluggish. It was hard to get out of bed in the morning. I managed to push myself to the gym, and while it wasn't a typical work out for me, it still helped me feel so much better. Today is Wednesday, and I feel like I am already past the worst.

I HIGHLY suggest you force yourself to do something active, no matter how weak/dizzy you feel. Of course, don't over-do it. Personally, for me, it takes an entire month to over-come all of the negative feelings associated from MDMA consumption. After about the first week I start feeling better though. Give it 1-4 weeks, but I am sure the most noticeable side effects will subside within 1-2 weeks. Try to eat healthy, and lift some weights. I have never tried 5-HTP, but I have heard it does help. Try caffeinated drinks like a coke or something as well. Hope you start feeling better.

Hey man, thanks for taking your time to reply. I will dude. I think i'm gonna go for a light jogging and see that helps. thanks man and I hope you'd feel better soon too if you're having a terrible comedown. be safe bro.

 

[dpd_mnk92]

Thank you dpd_mnk92, pretty_diamonds, and StrutterGear for your advice and replies. I just woke up and I'm feeling a bit fine, little better than before. Still feeling the dizziness and whatnot though, but I think it's getting better haha. Next time if I do roll, I'm for sure going to stick with just half or one only. Anywho, I got a question and are any of the damages from rolling & crackout permanent?? as in my situation where I rarely roll. Also, If I were to abuse rolling, let say doing it every weekend or every other weekend, then I'd be doing permanent damage to my body/brain right? Are all these damages fully, if not mostly recoverable? giving time of course. I'm just wondering. thank you guys again for your great advice. I appreciated.

If done on a weekly basis for an extended period, you will be making changes to your brain chemistry, no doubt.. MDMA is simply not made for regular usage - it's far too taxing and is not as safe as most people want to believe (when abused, that is). How much is recoverable? Seems there is little consensus on the matter - studies point in all sorts of directions as a result of methodological differences, biases (funding body is very influential) etc. Also, few longitudinal studies have captured an adequately long term perspective of recovery from MDMA abuse.

So pretty much any answer you will get to this will be speculative and predominantly based on subjective experience. If you read around, you will find those who have consumed obscene amounts and gone on to have an awesome life (without noticeable problems) and those who have not been so lucky. For the sake of harm reduction, play it safe. The truth is, no one can be 100% sure what effect MD has on them. It's about weighing out the pros and potential cons. I think the balance begins to tip the wrong way when it becomes a weekly/ fortnightly habit.

 

[Lenux]

If done on a weekly basis for an extended period, you will be making changes to your brain chemistry, no doubt.. MDMA is simply not made for regular usage - it's far too taxing and is not as safe as most people want to believe (when abused, that is). How much is recoverable? Seems there is little consensus on the matter - studies point in all sorts of directions as a result of methodological differences, biases (funding body is very influential) etc. Also, few longitudinal studies have captured an adequately long term perspective of recovery from MDMA abuse.

So pretty much any answer you will get to this will be speculative and predominantly based on subjective experience. If you read around, you will find those who have consumed obscene amounts and gone on to have an awesome life (without noticeable problems) and those who have not been so lucky. For the sake of harm reduction, play it safe. The truth is, no one can be 100% sure what effect MD has on them. It's about weighing out the pros and potential cons. I think the balance begins to tip the wrong way when it becomes a weekly/ fortnightly habit.

thanks!! haha you do have a point there. I'll keep that in mind!