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Have you read the AA book?

It's just like anything else in the world, some people like it, some don't. Just dont push it on people like it's the only mother fucking way your going to live sober because it's far from it.
They pushed it on me everytime I was in rehab and everytime I relapsed immediatly, guess what I'm off probation now, not court order'd to do shit and I havn't touched heroin since, it's the farthest thing from my mind.
I just figured out that life is fucking life and it's way cooler then putting spike's in my arm and stareing at the floor all day, but hey if thats how you gotta stay clean I'm not gonna bother ya. peace and love
 
This kind of therapy only works on stupid people.



Not uneducated, stupid.




Not foolish, stupid.




Not idiotic, stupid.







Kind of like religion.
 
The_Idler said:
This kind of therapy only works on stupid people.

Not uneducated, stupid.


Not foolish, stupid.


Not idiotic, stupid.


Kind of like religion.
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Because it is religion, in sheep's clothing?



therightcoast said:
Things can obviously get better, you just don't see that, and i geuss don't want sobriety. Good luck though, i hope your allergy towards bullshit ends with the whole badass persona and ignorance.
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Yeah I do see that. I've seen it for 7 months now. And I did it all by myself too. No powerlessness, no higher power (obvious cover-up for God), no program, no book, no sponsor, no stepwork. Well, I listen to the thirteen step (A Perfect Circle album) every so often.
I still have an allergy towards bullshit though.
 
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Read LSD, My Problem Child by Hofmann instead.
 
I'm right with you JC. I've made it 5 months clean with no help from AA or NA. When I got released from rehab, they gave me a number to call as my "contact person" so I could go ahead and get involved with the meetings and shit. I waited a few weeks and finally my parents made me call him and he invited me to the next meeting. I told him I was addicted to opiates and then he said, "I think you shouldn't go to that meeting, let me call one of my friends from NA and you can go to their meetings." Needless to say, that fucker never called me back. I don't have a problem with the 12 steps, but I think NA and AA are both nothing but pure bullshit.
 
Phy said:
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Read LSD, My Problem Child by Hofmann instead.
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bill wilson tried lsd as a cure before the program, and it obviously didn't help him.

Also the 12 steps can make anyones life better, like i said only the 1st one deals with an addiction. If you bash aa because you don't agree with little points by saying you have to be stupid to listen to them... whens the last time AA did anything but help anyone?
 
Yeah I read the whole thing a couple times and with a sponsor. IMO it's not that bad. I know bluelight isn't the most AA friendly place but that book does help alot of people who might not find help anywhere else. AA has been one of the most accepting places i've ever been (at least the meetings i went to)

I don't agree with some things here and there....such as the one size fits all attitude towards addiction. and the once an alcoholic always an alcoholic...which is pretty much bullshit considering the huge number of people who learn to drink regularly after being an 'alcoholic'. And i think it's retarded to ask for help from a higher power when there is genocide and people starving all over the world...and I'm praying for my stupid little cravings to go away? how selfish.

You can dig through that thing and find all sorts of fucked up weird shit, but you gotta remember it was written like 70-some years ago. And anyway it was one of the few books you could get for free in jail besides the bible and koran.

It's like anything else, take what you can from it and leave the rest behind.
 
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