Have you ever reported a murder?...

Dragynfyr

Dragynfyr

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....I wouldn't recommend it.

Doing what feels like the obvious right thing to do can have massive implications on you and the people around you.

What to you and most logical folks may appear to be a clean cut and dry murder, may only be manslaughter in the eyes of a prosecutor facing off with a high profile criminal defense attorney.

Then, all of a sudden- That 25 to Life that you thought you'd have to figure out your own life and find a new place to live is slashed to a mere 12 years with good behavior.

Realize that by trying to save more innocent victims, you may be sacrificing your own life, and the lives of those around you.

And you may have to spend the rest of your life recalculating if you did the right thing or not.

I'm sure as hell still not sure.

...More later
 
I somewhat frequently have dreams where i've just killed someone (who it was or how I did it is always unclear -- the murder itself never actually occurs in the dream), and am now tasked with getting rid of the body. It's usually very early morning, somewhat before dawn or earlier, and there are extenuating circumstances that make me more paranoid (like my tags are expired or my brake lights don't work or the police are already looking for me) and I'm terribly afraid of getting caught. I'm thinking with dread of going to prison, and am trying to figure out how to get rid of the body and not get caught.

I read it about it and apparently some say it has to do with some sort of guilt, or feeling like one is a fraud. I have been quite a charlatan in the past, particularly when I was a heavy benzo user, sort of like a catch-me-if-you can impersonator as a product of being a rather bright and persuasive person along with the BZD disinhibition. On benzos I feel like I can get away with anything (and I usually can). Perhaps that is the genesis of these dreams?
 
negrogesic said:
I somewhat frequently have dreams where i've just killed someone (who it was or how I did it is always unclear -- the murder itself never actually occurs in the dream), and am now tasked with getting rid of the body.
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I've had a dream like that at least once
 
I don’t know if it was murder, or the bloke OD’d and they just took what was owed to them (he had ripped my mates off badly) and disposed of the body but yeah kinda been here

Though I didn’t report it, I did tell them not to tell me anymore because I’m not playing privy to that kinda game man, I’d go straight to the cops.

Last June a bloke I know called and said he was in trouble.
He’d let himself be talked into some shady stuff by a guy who’s talent is in IT.
A group of them all allowed him to use their names to start fake businesses in their names and they used those businesses to get credit cards, mobile phones, small loans etc.

Problem was tho he never paid them out for their worth.
They got a couple new iPhones and a $2,000 credit card or two but didn’t see a cent of the $130,000 that was ‘rumoured’ to have been made from the scam.

Anyhow my mate was shitting. He wanted my help to dispose of all the paperwork.
I took a look briefly and it was intense.
Boxes and boxes full of fraudulent paperwork all in my mates name and he was visibly shaken.
I said no way am I helping you bro, if I take this stuff for you there’s only one place I’ll drop it. Local cop shop.
I’m not criminally minded and if the police asked I’m likely the sing like a canary so I wasn’t the right person to help.

He understood.
Few weeks later he calls.
Said scammer had gone underground and no one can find him
They’re all texting, making threats re getting their cash back and my mates gone from ‘shaken’ to fully Fkn paranoid.

He said they had found this guy, who was staying in a hotel room.
They all roughed him up a bit in an attempt to get their cash but then the dude had some kind of seizure (probably drug induced) so they stopped and made him go to hospital.

That hospital visit is the last known sighting of the guy.
About a month later it’s all over the news here, he’s gone and the police suspect foul play.

The report detailed everything I’d already been told so I don’t see any reason to report it, the cops know what I do.

But it plays on my mind a lot.
Did they off him accidentally?
Did he die from OD so they took what was owed and hid the body?
Or did they intentionally kill him because he’d lost all their money?

Beats me, but it’s one of those moments in life that I wonder should I have gone to the cops with that paperwork? Could I have changed this outcome?
Or has the dude just been smart enough to vanish before they knocked him?

If the cops ever come, I’ll tell them all I know. I’m not scared of the pack of methed our idiots who were dumb enough to let him play them.
But turning myself in wouldn’t do me any favours either as it just connects me to a world that will have police looking at me closer, where right now I’m still pretty anonymous by legal standards.

Look out for number one first.
Especially once it’s too late to save someone
 
SS373dOH said:
"Reporting" .. Or in other words snitching.
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Yeah. But I imagine there aren't a lot of people even in jail who would have let this one slide.

Cold blooded murder of a senior citizen. Think Cletus Kasady. And there could have been more victims. Had to stop it.

But yeah. "Snitches Get Stitches". Shits still haunted me ever since.
 
negrogesic said:
I somewhat frequently have dreams where i've just killed someone (who it was or how I did it is always unclear -- the murder itself never actually occurs in the dream), and am now tasked with getting rid of the body. It's usually very early morning, somewhat before dawn or earlier, and there are extenuating circumstances that make me more paranoid (like my tags are expired or my brake lights don't work or the police are already looking for me) and I'm terribly afraid of getting caught. I'm thinking with dread of going to prison, and am trying to figure out how to get rid of the body and not get caught.

I read it about it and apparently some say it has to do with some sort of guilt, or feeling like one is a fraud. I have been quite a charlatan in the past, particularly when I was a heavy benzo user, sort of like a catch-me-if-you can impersonator as a product of being a rather bright and persuasive person along with the BZD disinhibition. On benzos I feel like I can get away with anything (and I usually can). Perhaps that is the genesis of these dreams?
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It does suggest that in the day or two before the dream, you had to hide the evidence of something from someone irl. (e.g. maybe drug paraphernalia from your mother?) The fear of getting caught is the key, and almost certainly indicates that something caused that feeling in the day or two before, but it might just have been due to a film you watched and were particularly engrossed in.
 
negrogesic said:
I somewhat frequently have dreams where i've just killed someone (who it was or how I did it is always unclear -- the murder itself never actually occurs in the dream), and am now tasked with getting rid of the body. It's usually very early morning, somewhat before dawn or earlier, and there are extenuating circumstances that make me more paranoid (like my tags are expired or my brake lights don't work or the police are already looking for me) and I'm terribly afraid of getting caught. I'm thinking with dread of going to prison, and am trying to figure out how to get rid of the body and not get caught.
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this is a stock nightmare for me. first had it in my late teens and get one about every two years. my dream includes the murder. often stabbing someone and then holding them down as they bleed out. usually i do not want to commit the murder but have to (e.g. they witnessed me commit a crime). or after i have no idea why i did it. a key part of the horror is the irreversibility. that even though i have no ill will, i owe for my past transgression. i’m not always trying to dispose of the body, but am trying to get away. rivals remeron induced sleep paralysis where some malevolent person or figure is standing above me but i cannot move.

i’ve never killed anyone. i do struggle with shame and often feel like a fraud.

sorry you’re living with fear, Dragynfyr.
 
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hydroazuanacaine said:
this is a stock nightmare for me. first had it in my late teens and get one about every two years. my dream includes the murder. often stabbing someone and then holding them down as they bleed out. usually i do not want to commit the murder but have to (e.g. they witnessed me commit a crime). or after i have no idea why i did it. a key part of the horror is the irreversibility. that even though i have no ill will, i owe for my past transgression. i’m not always trying to dispose of the body, but am trying to get away. rivals remeron induced sleep paralysis where some malevolent person or figure is standing above me but i cannot move.

i’ve never killed anyone. i do struggle with shame and often feel like a fraud.

sorry you’re living with fear, Dragynfyr.
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Is there also a pervading fear of getting caught? That is perhaps the most palpable sentiment in these dreams for me.
 
Also people remember that anything you say regarding a case can be seen later...

An example my friend overdosed back right after HS graduation. We were all at the hospital looking at her lifeless body when the cops decided to question us all on who gave her the drugs.

Now everyone was emotional and instantly gave the guy up. I however grew up in a family that taught no snitching, EVER! Even if you get popped for a crime you didn’t commit you do the time then get out and settle the score.

So with that in mind when they asked me I told em to fuck off..

Years later when the guy finally got out of prison he came back to me and treated me with respect, hooking me up with a lot of shit. He then said, “I saw the transcripts of what everyone said, and you were the only one to not rat me out, you have no idea what that meant to me.”

That said these days I’d say it depends, if it was a really nasty situation that called for it I might say something but like the OP said, you could potentially put you and your family at risk. It’s always smart to weigh this out before saying something.

The cops want us to rat but come time the criminals get out or want revenge and those same cops ain’t nowhere to be found. They aren’t going to protect you.

-GC
 
G_Chem said:
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Years later when the guy finally got out of prison he came back to me and treated me with respect, hooking me up with a lot of shit. He then said, “I saw the transcripts of what everyone said, and you were the only one to not rat me out, you have no idea what that meant to me.”

That said these days I’d say it depends, if it was a really nasty situation that called for it I might say something but like the OP said, you could potentially put you and your family at risk. It’s always smart to weigh this out before saying something.

The cops want us to rat but come time the criminals get out or want revenge and those same cops ain’t nowhere to be found. They aren’t going to protect you.

-GC
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Yeah the cops definitely don't give a shit about you after prosecutors drop the ball and leave you hanging.
Rules are changing in some states too. Just read something about how suspects in NY will be given the identity of people who make 911 calls on them soon. I don't know the last time I saw a pay phone, so if that policy catches on you're going to need to keep a cash bought burner phone around just for one time emergency use if anything crazy happens.
 
No, and it'd have to be pretty evil before I'd report anything.

Otherwise, I didn't see anything, I don't know anything.

As others have said, if you report anything and it gets used as evidence, under the rules of discovery, the person being prosecuted is bound to find out.
 
There was a serial killer working were I was living and one night I dreamed that I was the serial killer but the catch was that I was also the lead detective for the homicides, so I was investigating my own crimes..... Such a weird dream..... I don't even know how to psychoanalyze that. I guess "I'm a fraud and I'm afraid of being found out." Who knows??
 
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