Antiprosynthesis
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I overdosed on heroin once and that is about the only real overdosed I ever had - I never realized going KO and I woke up on the ER and was pretty much okay...
I get that too sometimes. It's weird. A very matter-of-fact thought, with zero emotion or context behind it. Just "You should kill yourself.", usually repeated for awhile. No other thought or meaning behind it.have had a weird phenomenon since childhood that would tell me that I should kill myself, Just that statement would run through maybe avg 4 times per completely irrelevant to where or what I was thinking or doing.
I get that too sometimes. It's weird. A very matter-of-fact thought, with zero emotion or context behind it. Just "You should kill yourself.", usually repeated for awhile. No other thought or meaning behind it.
It is similar to auditory hallucinations I've had, but it's not a hallucination, it's just a thought spoken with inner dualogue.
Teenage years. Then again at 19/20, then in my mid 20s, at 30, and around 35. Seems to have tides. Certain drugs make it worse. Alcohol, stims, kratom makes it worse. Also gives me other random and very repetitive thoughts.When did it start?
Not really. I basically tell them I have "thoughts", but would never do it, and they move on to another subject. Recently I've become more acutely suicidal, but not sure I would tell anyone anyways. I don't really see the point. If you tell a shrink, they treat you differently.And have you spoken to a professional about it.
Teenage years. Then again at 19/20, then in my mid 20s, at 30, and around 35. Seems to have tides. Certain drugs make it worse. Alcohol, stims, kratom makes it worse. Also gives me other random and very repetitive thoughts.
Not really. I basically tell them I have "thoughts", but would never do it, and they move on to another subject. Recently I've become more acutely suicidal, but not sure I would tell anyone anyways. I don't really see the point. If you tell a shrink, they treat you differently.
@BlossomsBlooming thank you for sharing. I am glad you are doing better.
I know the thoughts are illogical. I also feel like suffering is invariably part of the meaning of life. I accept it. Which is why I think I would never actually do it, at least at this point.
I must unfortunately agree that a fair number of therapists have less than ideal responses to people sharing this type of thing - I frequently start new patient therapy by letting folks know that it's normal to have thoughts of killing yourself at some point (typically when I'm asking questions about suicidal ideation/self harm). Most people have thought about it during their life at some point or another, whether under duress or simply random intrusive or even curious thoughts. My goal with any new patient is to try to help them feel like they can express to me if they're feeling that way and struggling with it and not worry that my first response will be to call EMS or send them to the hospital. Obviously there are times where hospitalization is a good choice but I don't want that to be a choice I'm making without the person being a part of the decision. Most of the time, people feel better by just getting to express that they think/feel that way sometimes, and then it's not just rattling around their mind.Teenage years. Then again at 19/20, then in my mid 20s, at 30, and around 35. Seems to have tides. Certain drugs make it worse. Alcohol, stims, kratom makes it worse. Also gives me other random and very repetitive thoughts.
Not really. I basically tell them I have "thoughts", but would never do it, and they move on to another subject. Recently I've become more acutely suicidal, but not sure I would tell anyone anyways. I don't really see the point. If you tell a shrink, they treat you differently.
I must unfortunately agree that a fair number of therapists have less than ideal responses to people sharing this type of thing - I frequently start new patient therapy by letting folks know that it's normal to have thoughts of killing yourself at some point (typically when I'm asking questions about suicidal ideation/self harm). Most people have thought about it during their life at some point or another, whether under duress or simply random intrusive or even curious thoughts. My goal with any new patient is to try to help them feel like they can express to me if they're feeling that way and struggling with it and not worry that my first response will be to call EMS or send them to the hospital. Obviously there are times where hospitalization is a good choice but I don't want that to be a choice I'm making without the person being a part of the decision. Most of the time, people feel better by just getting to express that they think/feel that way sometimes, and then it's not just rattling around their mind.
Sometimes there's nothing I can do but foster a relationship where someone feels like they can say what's on their mind and even if that's all I can do, I'm happy to do it.
Yikes I hope that isn’t the case. Wtf?’ It’s literally called the dark night of the soul and can happen to anyone at any time. Dude! People especially goddamn educated ones need to encourage open dialogue about everything! I understand a licensed provider would need a protocol in place which is not complex, okay patient voices this this not that but this etc figure out the best plan and provide the proper care since it is literally the job! I mean parents not talking to their kids is bad enough, and no sex ed in school anymore. But c’mon. I didn’t make the saying Knowledge is Power up. And no cherry picking the knowledge, all knowledge is important. Hearing stuff like that fires me right up. Unacceptable.
I missed that last sentence regarding therapists treating patients differently if they speak up Snafu. For real? That is insane.
You know, I didn’t even realize it until I was suddenly out, but my provider who I haven’t seen and she didn’t reach out, cut my Lorazepam dose in half from the not a big deal 1-2 per day to just one. And what do you know. I am suddenly having panic attacks after not for a long time. Have your nurse call and inform the patient and schedule a follow up appointment. Which is what I assumed would occur, and never did. In my undergrad opinion this all seems like garbage care to me. I would run my practice differently to say the least.
She was a little snarky with me last time I went in. I bet my mom’s GP who is so very calm and nice and wears socks with his Birkenstock sandals is taking patients. I am switching for sure.
Teenage years. Then again at 19/20, then in my mid 20s, at 30, and around 35. Seems to have tides. Certain drugs make it worse. Alcohol, stims, kratom makes it worse. Also gives me other random and very repetitive thoughts.
Not really. I basically tell them I have "thoughts", but would never do it, and they move on to another subject. Recently I've become more acutely suicidal, but not sure I would tell anyone anyways. I don't really see the point. If you tell a shrink, they treat you differently.
I presume my alcohol intake may have decreased the effectiveness of my SSRI, or fucked with my chemicals and them doing there job properly. Speaking of certain drugs triggering things, man do I get a wicked tinnitus with speed. It’s like crickets from mars taking over! My dad had tinnitus and heard birds chirping all the time. I don’t even stretch and have tense neck and shoulders always. So I get the tinnitus, it’s just another difference between the different recipes.
@BlossomsBlooming thank you for sharing. I am glad you are doing better.
I know the thoughts are illogical. I also feel like suffering is invariably part of the meaning of life. I accept it. Which is why I think I would never actually do it, at least at this point.
That's true. When I was asked once by a shrink if I had suicidal thoughts and I said "yes" there was a moment of silence. A look. A thought. And then back to normal but I got a new prescription for another pill that would supposedly make my thoughts less dark.I don't really see the point. If you tell a shrink, they treat you differently.
You said it is like an inner dialogue, and even put words in quotes. So I assume it's actual language that's "thinking" it?I get that too sometimes. It's weird. A very matter-of-fact thought, with zero emotion or context behind it. Just "You should kill yourself.", usually repeated for awhile. No other thought or meaning behind it.