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Have you ever had a bad time on Ecstasy?

I've never taken Ecstasy/MDMA/MDA or any drugs like them, or related to them as I never really had a desire. When I used drugs I was more into psychedelics like LSD, mushrooms, cannabis/hash, nitrous oxide a few times, alcohol, and low doses of opiates, and low doses of pharmaceutical amphetamine at times.

I think I'm perhaps a minority on this site?

A friend of mine told me how he took some Ecstasy while on vacation in public and at first it sort of freaked him out how it made him hallucinate a bit but then he just went with it and was fine. I'm guessing maybe he had MDA or even 2C-B instead?
 
I AM i.e said:
The first time I had Snowballs thinking they were 'normal' pills. By my third I was tripping pretty hard and paranoia quickly set in. I can see it like it was yesterday, the whole chill out room at Lazerdrome snickering away at me. The darkness lasted for a few weeks after but I soon recovered and got straight back on those crazy beans.
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That's why I don't rate MDA on its own it's too unpredictable lol. A few strange happenings with those windmills I once gave all my pills away and went home. Depending on the trip it can be very real kind of fucked up at the time. I remember one particular house party spewing out the window and diving into bed in a state cerebral palsy only to be accused of trying to groom some guys g/f who already in the bed sleeping lol. I'd say if it was avail all the time people would still want MDMA more.
 
MDMA is paradoxically anxiogenic on the come up and does produce visuals, though they are comparatively mild.
MDA is a whole different league and very difficult to mistake for the N-Methyl counterpart.
 
The last time I took mandy was about a year ago, and fuck it was horrendous; it was hard to explain, but out of nowhere I become incredibly confused, sweaty and extremely anxious... Once my friends took me out of the rave, an agonising pain developed on the back of my head and in my forehead, like an immense pressure I've never felt before. It gradually got worse, to the point where I couldn't lift my head up as the pain was really bad :/ I think that was because I'm on 200mg Sertraline daily which apparently doesn't go well with MDMA?
 
Yeah dangerous man. I know somebody was on it and said 250mg barely did anything to him, which was similar to my own experience on seroquel, the amphetamine type Rush was non existent, only the empathy was present. I wound up just leaving it and instead focusing on getting off seroquel, none of these meds are a good long term answer.
 
Tell me about it... Recently learning that some SSRIs can also be addictive is also worrying*

*Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I know people (myself, included) have experienced withdrawal symptoms when stopping SSRIs :(

EDIT: do you think those symptoms I experienced were related to serotonin syndrome or something?
 
Commix said:
Tell me about it... Recently learning that some SSRIs can also be addictive is also worrying*

*Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I know people (myself, included) have experienced withdrawal symptoms when stopping SSRIs :(

EDIT: do you think those symptoms I experienced were related to serotonin syndrome or something?
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People definitely experience withdrawal symptoms from ceasing ssri's. Brain zaps, insomnia are two of the more common ones. You should never just abruptly stop taking them. A taper is very much advisable.
 
Yeah you shouldn't really mix MDMA and SSRI's either, my best mate was on them for ages. And that's his experience I posted, he seems to go on and off them, but he does agree they are bad news.

I think any of these meds they prescribe for depression or anxiety are only really a short term fix not a long term answer, and cause many more problems than they're worth.

I thinks actually getting serotonin syndrome from mixing 2 releases is extremely rare though. The only person I know who's had it mixed the two and tried to kill himself with an 8th dose of MDMA. I imagine the brain zaps after that would be fucking brutal.
 
Yeah i agree that they are a short term fix at best. Some studies show that they do not perform any better than placebos too. Exercise and a healthy diet, practicing mindfulness and having social contact with people are a much better long term solution for depression in my opinion.

And mushrooms every now and then :)
 
I think you hit the nail on the head with "practicing mindfulness", most of us won't realise it at the time but I bet a lot of us are left depressed by things which have happened, which at the time were our own actions and choices. I'm not saying bad things don't or won't happen, just that it's how we handle them. I've known anyone who's came out of SSRI's any better than they went in. Seroquel there seem to be a few but there's a lot of people who've developed other problems because of it.

Probably a good party, some psychedelics and low dose MDMA would do more good for me, personally.
 
Ayahuasca is good for dealing with issues that cause trauma. Its certainly not for everyone but its amazing medicine.

Mindfulness is a really important thing to practice regularly. I meditate quite often. After spending 20 years in the hippy capital of Australia i can vouch for the benefits of meditation and yoga. Definitely better than any SSRI in my books. But like anything that really works it takes time and effort but if you do you will be rewarded.
 
For sure man meditation is a powerful thing. I can't claim to be very good at it but do try now and again. You are definitely right a good diet, exercise, and a bit of stretchin and meditation will do far more good than any anti-depressants I'm aware of anyway.
 
Sid said:
For sure man meditation is a powerful thing. I can't claim to be very good at it but do try now and again. You are definitely right a good diet, exercise, and a bit of stretchin and meditation will do far more good than any anti-depressants I'm aware of anyway.
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Well a combination of those things keeps me sane and generally happy. Combined with the occasional psychedelic reset i am good to go.
 
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