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Have You Ever Gotten An 'Intervention'?

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bogey_j

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So I was watching that show intervention on a&e and I don't like how they carry out these interventions. I was watching one with this meth addict and they kept giving him the illusion of choice whther he wanted to go to treatment or not. He refused but then the interventionist called the police and threatened to throw him in jail (for posession of meth) if he didnt go to treatment. He still refused, and the interventionist said if he didnt go not only would all his family members cut him off entirely, but his family was going to reposess his house (trailer) and car. watching it just pissed me off.

anyway has yur family/friends ever tried to give you an intervention?
 
they tried. hahaha. failed miserably. my ma and step dad and all their friends were all standing in my room, and i woke up. my mom had thrown away 50 valium along with some excellent chronic. the most ridiculous part is that my mom decided to do it because she "caught" me doing whipits. i was outraged for several days.
 
bogey_j said:
So I was watching that show intervention on a&e and I don't like how they carry out these interventions. I was watching one with this meth addict and they kept giving him the illusion of choice whther he wanted to go to treatment or not. He refused but then the interventionist called the police and threatened to throw him in jail (for posession of meth) if he didnt go to treatment. He still refused, and the interventionist said if he didnt go not only would all his family members cut him off entirely, but his family was going to reposess his house (trailer) and car. watching it just pissed me off.

anyway has yur family/friends ever tried to give you an intervention?
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everyone's attempts have always proven futile. i had to realize my problem was serious and intervene in my own business myself, without others...that way, it worked very efficiently and smoothly, and no more lush life for me.

little epiphanies came and went, music inspired me, the beauty of life [don't mean to get all spiritual cause i'm far from it actually] and the appreciation of being loved but most importantly the ability to love is what drove me to preserve myself for a longer existence and led to the cessation of my anti-self behavior and the start of a love and respect for myself. it was incredibly easy....all it took was abstaining from 'the lifestyle' for 2 or 3 days [upon someone's advice toward this matter who was once in the same situation] and the undrugged psyche gan to war upon the lush in me...Es war ein Wunderliescher Krieg, as martin luther wrote, and in the end evil was subjugated and goodness won.

i swear i look back on it now and all it was was 2 goddamned days of abstinence, refraining from the luxury and retreating into ascetic hermitage....and a problem that was building for years and years and getting so big it was just about to topple simply disappeared as if it was never there before.

it's so easy...if only everyone knew. we concentrate too much on the negative when we should instead advertise the high chance of gaining the positive by taking just a few seemingly difficult to take steps back, and all unravels, and the unbearable lightness of being returns and its so good you don't even regret the past, you look at it as something that shaped you and improved you - not by deluding yourself but by being extremely sincere with yourself and unafraid completely of self-criticism and social metaphysics [excuse me ayn rand]
 
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what's really hard now, is having a very dear friend whom you treasure, facing difficult situations in life and resorting to means that should not be considered in the resolution of said problems.

one wants to intervene, but one doesn't wish to force anything upon his friend, to dictate...yet one feels showing by example is not enough or perhaps one cannot show by example at all because there's nothing exceptionally brilliant to show.

that's a real dilemma. if anyone could help me with that...i'd sure as hell appreciate it. how do i get someone to do what i did.....since i am not anti-drug, and believe one can wisely choose to use anything he wishes for any reason....my example-showing phase is thus marked out completely. how does one intervene without dictating, without imposing? in pure existential fashion, so to speak, without slogans or rubric or gimmicks, how does one carry this point across that the time to stop and reconsider has come,,,or is it necessary to compromise oneself for the sake of ones friend and show by example total abstinence and the benefits to which it leads? but if such is not my belief, i will be teaching by deception.

and as leon trostky said...the ends justify the means only if the ends are worth justifying. very witty little saying but no mr. leon davydovich bronshteyn, you have yet again failed to help me despite all your wisdom.
 
Valium said:
everyone's attempts have always proven futile. i had to realize my problem was serious and intervene in my own business myself, without others...that way, it worked very efficiently and smoothly, and no more lush life for me.

little epiphanies came and went, music inspired me, the beauty of life [don't mean to get all spiritual cause i'm far from it actually] and the appreciation of being loved but most importantly the ability to love is what drove me to preserve myself for a longer existence and led to the cessation of my anti-self behavior and the start of a love and respect for myself. it was incredibly easy....all it took was abstaining from 'the lifestyle' for 2 or 3 days [upon someone's advice toward this matter who was once in the same situation] and the undrugged psyche gan to war upon the lush in me...Es war ein Wunderliescher Krieg, as martin luther wrote, and in the end evil was subjugated and goodness won.

i swear i look back on it now and all it was was 2 goddamned days of abstinence, refraining from the luxury and retreating into ascetic hermitage....and a problem that was building for years and years and getting so big it was just about to topple simply disappeared as if it was never there before.

it's so easy...if only everyone knew. we concentrate too much on the negative when we should instead advertise the high chance of gaining the positive by taking just a few seemingly difficult to take steps back, and all unravels, and the unbearable lightness of being returns and its so good you don't even regret the past, you look at it as something that shaped you and improved you - not by deluding yourself but by being extremely sincere with yourself and unafraid completely of self-criticism and social metaphysics [excuse me ayn rand]
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Nice post, thanks for that.

As far as helping a friend, some people have to hit rock bottom. While some of my friends strive to move away from the scene, others go deeper. One friend in particular, I've had personal lengthy convos about it and nothing sinks in. After years of drug abuse he can still justify his actions, like I did when I was younger and dumber. Sometimes when you're at the bottom of the spiral you don't see a point to stopping, focusing on everything you've lost or fucked up in life as you said, the negative. You have to want to quit for you and no one can do that for you. I think too many wait to be rescued but don't except any help.
 
Once. Failed miserably. Was able to get them fighting amongst each other, then walked out in ensuing chaos.
 
when some people have serious addiction problems then i dont blame the family for trying to intervene. if the guy insists on letting him live his life then fine.

but when you have an adult who is an addict and is making their parents suffer and leeching off them then they should be thrown into the street if they dont wanna shape up. you have addicts who take advantage of their parents' (usually mothers) sympathy, which is pathetic.

if an adult fucks up their life that bad, then they should learn the hard way.
 
Valium said:
addendum

what's really hard now, is having a very dear friend whom you treasure, facing difficult situations in life and resorting to means that should not be considered in the resolution of said problems.

one wants to intervene, but one doesn't wish to force anything upon his friend, to dictate...yet one feels showing by example is not enough or perhaps one cannot show by example at all because there's nothing exceptionally brilliant to show.

that's a real dilemma. if anyone could help me with that...i'd sure as hell appreciate it. how do i get someone to do what i did.....since i am not anti-drug, and believe one can wisely choose to use anything he wishes for any reason....my example-showing phase is thus marked out completely. how does one intervene without dictating, without imposing? in pure existential fashion, so to speak, without slogans or rubric or gimmicks, how does one carry this point across that the time to stop and reconsider has come,,,or is it necessary to compromise oneself for the sake of ones friend and show by example total abstinence and the benefits to which it leads? but if such is not my belief, i will be teaching by deception.

and as leon trostky said...the ends justify the means only if the ends are worth justifying. very witty little saying but no mr. leon davydovich bronshteyn, you have yet again failed to help me despite all your wisdom.
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You sound like a smart level headed person, and I think you need to simply be yourself. If one is to intervene, the classic "intervention" seems too impersonal. One is to be blatant, come across sincere, yet firm.

Let whoever it is know that you are an open level headed person. Let them know that you are not asking them to do anything at all, but rather consider how someone who is not anti drug and who wishes only the best cannot agree with the habits they have fallen into. If that person chooses that you are in fact wrong, then so be it. Dont force them to do anything. Remember, a few bad turns and that couldve have been you.

If you were the person in need of intervention, what would be required for YOU to listen.

Ask yourself that before you start running around and lying to people so you can trap them in a room and impose a lifestyle change.

My 0.02
 
Valium said:
addendum

what's really hard now, is having a very dear friend whom you treasure, facing difficult situations in life and resorting to means that should not be considered in the resolution of said problems.

one wants to intervene, but one doesn't wish to force anything upon his friend, to dictate...yet one feels showing by example is not enough or perhaps one cannot show by example at all because there's nothing exceptionally brilliant to show.

that's a real dilemma. if anyone could help me with that...i'd sure as hell appreciate it. how do i get someone to do what i did.....since i am not anti-drug, and believe one can wisely choose to use anything he wishes for any reason....my example-showing phase is thus marked out completely. how does one intervene without dictating, without imposing? in pure existential fashion, so to speak, without slogans or rubric or gimmicks, how does one carry this point across that the time to stop and reconsider has come,,,or is it necessary to compromise oneself for the sake of ones friend and show by example total abstinence and the benefits to which it leads? but if such is not my belief, i will be teaching by deception.

and as leon trostky said...the ends justify the means only if the ends are worth justifying. very witty little saying but no mr. leon davydovich bronshteyn, you have yet again failed to help me despite all your wisdom.
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Intervention by meaning alone almost infers dictation of some sort to force a change but this is an illusion. You can't corner someone and force them to change for their own benefit no matter how kind or horrible you are about it. Addiction is deeply personal and as such it takes a personal decision to come about. The best you can do is offer your sincerest concern in a calm manner and hope it sinks in the rest is just them.
 
Kind of.

My (now) step dad called an impromptu meeting just between me, him and my mum.

It wasn't a "YOUR GOING TO REHAB NOW OR FUCK OFF!" kind of deal - but they wanted some sort of plan of attack to handle my addiction as it was blatently well out of control.


The next day we went to the local clinic - ony to be told there was a THIRTEEN MONTH waiting list for methadone.

The staff there actually called it the "Fuck off and die list" :/
 
I got the "your going to treatment, or not going home" I just got released from the hospital, from ambien overdose, and I decided treatment. Even after treatment, it was hell coming back home, and I had to stay with a friend for a month. I think it was the best thing that happened to me, because I dont need to be high to function anymore :).
 
when i was in college my friends ambushed me about my eating disorder and cutting. they went over my head and called my parents and they showed up an hour or two later, together (they are divorced) and in a tornado. the next week i was in treatment. it didn't really work. as for drugs, no intervention ever. a lot of threats and broken relationships and conditions to follow if i wanted certain interaction with my family. basically, i lost all my friends and am struggling to regain trust with my family. however, this wont really happen till i face all of my adictions once and for all. ive tried many times, but...
 
HeScoresHeShoots said:
Intervention by meaning alone almost infers dictation of some sort to force a change but this is an illusion. You can't corner someone and force them to change for their own benefit no matter how kind or horrible you are about it. Addiction is deeply personal and as such it takes a personal decision to come about. The best you can do is offer your sincerest concern in a calm manner and hope it sinks in the rest is just them.
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The flaw in your reasoning here is that you don't force people to get better, you force them to realize how their addiction is affecting those that they love and themselves. The idea is for this to help a person who is trapped in addiction make a personal choice to get better. It can't work every time, but last I checked 75% of the people that had been through the Intervention show were still clean. And only like 2-3 flat out refused to go to treatment.
 
cdubb said:
i havent...but this man has, you may remember him from A&E intervention...he was the DXM freak....so um, still shitting in buckets, Ben?
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if i remember right that dude almost got his ass beat for getting some head from a prostitute and not paying here.
 
ok ... "they've tried, but they faild."

come on, get in reality, yes you know it's coming, this is a mother fucking intervention bitch, you yourself failed. yes you knew it was coming.

you yourself failed, and that'd the bottom line, no if ands or buts, we all have failed.
 
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