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Have i messed up my brain with too many Psychadelics??

That happened to me as well, for a period when I did too much acid and stuff I got to thinking about all these theories and I really thought I was on to something. Appears to be a common chronic effect. But when I started moderating my use it turned out I was believing in more than I should. Being openminded is okay but you can go too far with that and just start believing - well - random unconnected incoherent stuff you just want to believe. It would explain why you think you know more than other people. Sure I am positive that I have grown from tripping in ways many people that didn't have not, but it sounds too me like your ideas have outgrown you and that is not a healthy thing, trust me.

Give your brain and ideas a rest and go out and live and integrate your ideas. If they survive that reality check, keep them otherwise they are probably involuted figments of your own mind and you really need to chug them away and screen that stuff to maintain a well state of mind.

The fact that you're asking this shows that you feel somewhere that something is not right. Straighten it out and don't worry about being ordinary or unconscientious - the spectrum is broad and you will not lose the valuable lessons too easy!!

much <3
 
slow it down mann - u dont wana end up in dipers by the time ur 40 cause ur brain is mush. u gotta do it less and less for real - how many mental break downs have u had ? i too did x and acid a bunch in a short period of time -relly took a toll on my brain and didnt relly notice untill i stopped for several weeks- had flash backs , the ocasional melt down , apathy, loss of memory , and of course i didnt c anything wrong with doing x pills every week and DOB every other week-throw in some ice- but now wow its been 2 years clean on everything but x and weed (pots harmless for me) i dont have as many flash backs im more motovated and stable ,

so dude take a break time will help - ps i still trip and roll just few and far inbeetween
 
You people throwing random numbers out there: "3 months you'll be fine man," "10 years and you might be okay"'... Come on! Are you just pulling these numbers out of your ass?

There is no way you can put a definitive length on how long you will feel this way. Maybe you'll feel different until you die. Maybe tomorrow you'll realize that drugs didn't do anything positive for you, and you'll simply revert back to your old self. Who knows? Nobody.

If you don't like the way the drugs make you feel, stop taking them and do something else with your life. It sounds as if you weren't prepared for what they showed you-- I'd suggest you don't make this same mistake twice.
 
ok im pretty young and i was just having fun but, now i realized its not about that so i need to get my shit together. Will i ever think like a normal person again? cause starting from January this year i have taken probably about 200 e pillls and a shit load of acid and shrooms and other psychedelics like dmt and ketamine. im not depressed or anything like that but i just think differently then most people i think its cause all of the psychedelics changed me... it feels like i know more than people and im just on a other level how can i become normal i stopped taking everything about a 1 month and a half ago ??

you're fine, if you're pretty young aka 16-30 don't worry about it. You are on another level. Everyone else just haven't learned the emotional and spiritual lessons you have. The social aspect of life around this age is ridiculously flawed and no one should really take part in it anyway lol. Eventually you will meet friends who share your same views, you'll just probably not find them where you used to roam.
 
I used to think that and only that, but what also crept in was the sense that life is also as much so about being good to yourself.
Fun is great and in essence indispensable, but hardly constructive or sustainable when overemphasized.
It is my personal opinion that tripping should also, at least once in a while, reveal to you that the key is to make yourself happy. Not euphoric, happy. Self acceptance plays a big role and is more often than not quite a bit more complex than initially believed.

But in the end, don't we all need to find our own truths?
 
Psychedelics have changed me in a powerful and profound way. I still feel like I'm to tethered to society and psychedelics are helping me to escape the false reality created by humanity and see what true reality is, even if i may never reach it. I feel damn proud knowing I'm not conforming to some false system, or at least as little as possible.
 
Thats a rather pessimistic attitude for such a subjective topic. Many people enjoy psychedelics over 100 times many times over and don't fry their brain for 10 years. Sorry it happened to you, but suggesting it will necessarily happen to someone else is a little premature.

When I say 10 years -

I wasn't crazy fried like some people get I could still work and do normal things, but it literally took 10 years after my last trip to stop having sober visuals.

I could sit and watch the carpet move for years after my last LSD dose.

I don't know if it was exactly 100 trips, it was something like 90-130 total.

Some of them though were on extremely high doses that to be honest I sort of regret. I really did not get anything out of ultra high doses except visuals so intense as to truly completely hallucinate, like enter a cartoon, or walk around in a painting or old film.

It took about 8-10 years before sober visuals and the kind of fried feeling were completely gone - just being honest. It can and will go away, just be patient and STOP taking psychedelics once you start to feel fried.

Mental hospitals are full of people like syd barret who didn't know when to STOP trying to go further down the rabbitt hole.
 
When I say 10 years -

I wasn't crazy fried like some people get I could still work and do normal things, but it literally took 10 years after my last trip to stop having sober visuals.

I could sit and watch the carpet move for years after my last LSD dose.
That may of been a case of HPPD possibly.


It took about 8-10 years before sober visuals and the kind of fried feeling were completely gone - just being honest. It can and will go away, just be patient and STOP taking psychedelics once you start to feel fried.

I agree with AA Gone here, abstinence from psychedelic use will allow you to come back into balance with yourself, it's just going to take time.

Mental hospitals are full of people like syd barret who didn't know when to STOP trying to go further down the rabbitt hole.

From my personal experience with psychedelics along with conversations with other users, and been actively involved in a scene where the Drug of Choice is LSD, Mushrooms or DMT. I find that 'most' people will initially take a psychedelic for fun and to get high.. only to realize a whole new change of perception and the possibility of higher understanding/answers not only of there surroundings through visualizations, but themselves as a whole, and this usually leads to further pursuit until the person is content with what they understand to be 'true'.

But yes.. some people can go a bit overboard.. I do know several people who are unfortunately stuck in this loop, and cant quite seem to break it.. it's consumed there entire life to the point of forgetting how to relax. I know because i was one of them for about 2 years.
 
i don't know if this is gonna be permanent but i took way too many drugs on Friday i took a gram of molly with a eighth of shrooms and smoked a couple points of dmt. it felt like i was running around in my brain or in a other world and just learning crazy shit dont know how to explain it really, u just have to experience it. i think im gonna be done with all this shit for a while im just gonna do one last trip and then be completely sober for one year.
 
You don't know if what is gonna be permanent? The fact that you think you could use one last trip kind of makes it extra unrealistic to go for a whole year of sobriety.
Firstly, make concrete what you think is wrong about your behaviour... is your mental health suffering, your physical health? Is it getting in the way of other things in your life? Put it on paper. Then think about what would be necessary to achieve what you want to change.
If you are not able to find the insurance within yourself to make it happen, as in by giving yourself an ultimatum and seeing it fail, get help.

And I don't mean create a new thread on PD or asking a friend what he thinks, I mean really go for some professional help. Otherwise don't expect things to change on their own, it could only drag you down seeing that they don't. Many people wait too long, often years, before they eventually ask for help. But I think in absolutely most cases people are not going to kick you in the balls for seeking help. So there is no reason not to do it, its worth going past the shame.
But you gotta make a real decision, stuff like self sabotage wont do you any good.
 
I only think my mind was fucked up after my 3rd Acid Trip which was incredibly bad, had all those paranoid thoughts that all my mates where out to get me and my girlfriend was cheating on me and all sorts crazy headfuckedness... ever since that, on and off I get the thoughts recurring it got so bad I even quit smoking cannabis, which has helped but I still get the bad trip thoughts come back at least twice a week.

Weird. Similar experience after first acid trip. I get paranoid thoughts but not like that. More paranoid because I feel like my actions on a day to day basis don't represent who I am no matter how much I evaluate their preceding carrying them out. I feel like at anygivern point I don't exist as myself but as an egoitistical distortion of my true self. I can't exist as myself as the self doensn't exist at a given point in time. However I feel multiple personalitied in the sense that my personality changes over time but over time I am still the same existence so I might as well have conflicting personalities at once because I do accept that that once happens to be over time. Its hard to put into words.
I get paranoid about it usually only when I smoke the ganj or stay up for a couple of days... kind of like now...

I usually feel more comfortable about it if i'm tripping and I can reevaluate why I fell like that.


The only other thing that can get me really paranoid is if I am exposed to religious dogma during a trip and than I worry about whether my sole conforms to its narrow set beliefs of personal conduct and whether I will go to hell because of it.
 
do not for one second think that drugs made you smarter or more enlightened. you will alienate people. you may have learned a few things about drugs, but the drugs did nothing for your intellect.

after month 3 of sobriety, you should feel fine.


Actually there IS some evidence that psychedelics can make you smarter.


http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2005/11/69477

In the first study of its kind, researchers have found that peyote -- for now, the only legal hallucinogenic drug in the United States -- doesn't rob regular users of brain power over time.

While the findings don't directly indicate anything about the safety of psychedelic drugs like LSD and mushrooms, they do suggest that at least one hallucinogen is OK to use for months or even years.

"We really weren't able to find any (mental) deficits," said Dr. John Halpern, associate director of substance abuse research at McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts, and co-author of the study, released today in the Nov. 4 issue of the journal Biological Psychiatry. Hallucinogenic drugs have long fascinated researchers, who are now studying whether they hold the potential to treat mental illnesses like depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder.

But little is known about the long-term effects of hallucinogenic use. Part of the problem is that many users -- such as LSD aficionados -- take a variety of other drugs, so it's hard to tease out the specific effects of psychedelic drugs.

Enter peyote, currently the only hallucinogenic drug legally allowed for use outside research labs (although that may change). Compared with LSD and mushrooms, peyote is a bit obscure, with its use -- at least legally -- limited to the sacramental rites of the Native American Church, which has as many as 300,000 members. Many peyote users don't take other drugs, making them ideal subjects for hallucinogenic research.

Peyote comes from the crowns of a cactus that grows in northern Mexico and parts of Texas. Harvesters cut off the crown, dry it and sell it in "buttons," Halpern said. Generally, users eat the buttons whole or grind them up into a powder that can be mixed into food or brewed into a tea.

When enough peyote is eaten, users enter a hallucinogenic state thanks to its active ingredient, the chemical mescaline. Halpern and colleagues recruited three groups of Navajos -- 61 members of the Native American Church who regularly ate peyote, 36 alcoholics who have been dry for at least two months and 79 people who reported little or no use of alcohol or drugs. The researchers then gave mental-health and cognitive tests to the subjects.

Only the alcoholics showed signs of brain problems. On the psychological front, Native American peyote users were actually in better shape emotionally than those who didn't use the drug.

Why? For one thing, the church provides plenty of emotional support to members, said Dennis J. McKenna, senior lecturer at the University of Minnesota's Center for Spirituality & Healing. For another, Native American users are careful about how they use peyote. "The context of the use is a really important thing," McKenna said. "Most people using mushrooms or LSD in a recreational way don't really have a context for this type of use," such as an emphasis on setting, à la psychedelic guru Timothy Leary.

By contrast, both alcohol and marijuana are considered bad for the brain if overused. Although there's still plenty of debate, some research suggests heavy pot use can harm memory for days after the last toke. And, of course, there's the anecdotal evidence of brain damage from everyone who's known a Jeff Spicoli-type stoner.

Marijuana damage seems to be temporary, while alcohol-related damage appears to be more permanent, said study co-author Dr. Harrison Pope Jr., director of the Biological Psychiatry Laboratory at McLean Hospital. The jury's still out, he said, on what damage LSD does to the brain, if any, and for how long.

Both researchers cautioned that the peyote findings shouldn't make anyone think LSD and mushrooms are safe.

The drugs are chemically different and appear to work differently too. Neither Pope nor Halpern, for example, has ever heard of a peyote user having a flashback. Even a person with memory impairment would likely remember that.
 
The 200 E pills might be a different story entirely though. Thats too much in my opinion. You might want to slow down.
 
I think I read that psychedelics can make you smarter but only if you have an intelligence that is above average to begin with. Apparently you need a threshold analytic mind to integrate the lessons that expand your intelligence. Of course, you don't need a big intellect to learn spiritual lessons or life lessons from them. :)
 
I think I read that psychedelics can make you smarter but only if you have an intelligence that is above average to begin with. Apparently you need a threshold analytic mind to integrate the lessons that expand your intelligence. Of course, you don't need a big intellect to learn spiritual lessons or life lessons from them. :)

psychs make math easier for me
 
I think I read that psychedelics can make you smarter but only if you have an intelligence that is above average to begin with. Apparently you need a threshold analytic mind to integrate the lessons that expand your intelligence. Of course, you don't need a big intellect to learn spiritual lessons or life lessons from them. :)

Being intelligent to begin with certainly helps, but psychedelics can really unlock your potential.

I think the attitude with which you approach these medicines has a huge impact on the effect they have on you.

However, they are a tool and they can be abused. You use up some of your reserves of energy when you have those kinds of experiences. You should use the wisely, spaced out and in the proper setting....at least if you are serious about using it as a tool.
 
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