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Thanks a lot Will, you give a lot of good information.
1. Can the honey oil be formed into a solid or does it stay a liquid?
2. Using the quick wash method will I still get a pretty good yield? (3.5g+ from using an oz of schwag)
3. Do I shake the jar/container when I am doing the quick wash or do I just let it sit there for 10 minutes?
 
Thanks a lot Will, you give a lot of good information.
1. Can the honey oil be formed into a solid or does it stay a liquid?
2. Using the quick wash method will I still get a pretty good yield? (3.5g+ from using an oz of schwag)
3. Do I shake the jar/container when I am doing the quick wash or do I just let it sit there for 10 minutes?

Thanks brad, I really appreciate the kind words :)

1. At room temp the honey oil is very sticky, as you can probably imagine. When I make honey oil I keep it inthe freezer, which will turn it into a solid. Doing this makes it easier to deal with. Once it's slightly cold I ball it up into the shape of a tube or ball, then put it in the freezer to solidify. Once it's frozen, a razor blade can be used to chop off bits of honey oil without it sticking to everything. But, as soon as the honey oil heats back up to room temp, it will be just as sticky as it was before.

Other than freezing it, I have never made it into a solid. I would imagine that adding powdered weed (as when making iso hash) would result in a solid product. However, adding ground up schwag to honey oil kind of defeats the purpose; as the point of honey oil is it's purity.


2. Using the quick wash method results in a higher yield variability. I will try to explain it in a way that makes sense.

The reason a long wash has fairly predictable results is because weed (no matter how good or bad) is somewhat consistent in alcohol-soluble contents. While THC content in good weed (up to ~20% and occasionally higher) and bad weed (~1-2% in dirt schwag) varies highly, alcohol soluble materials are more consistent regardless of the quality. I can't give exact numbers. Super good chronic has 10x the THC of shitty schwag, but not close to 10x the amount of other alcohol soluble material.

Since the long iso soak incorporates not just the THC (which, as I said, varies widely between weed) but the alcohol soluble plant material (which doesn't vary as much) the weight is more consistent. The quick wash method on the other hand consists of a higher amount of THC by weight. Thus, if you use a better quality weed, you will yield a larger amount of hash. Does that make sense?

For schwag, the hash yield using quick wash iso method will likely be between 1-3g of hash per ounce of weed depending on quality. If the weed is closer in quality to mids, expect more like 3-4g hash per ounce of weed. As I said, the results can vary dramatically.


3. The more you shake the iso/weed mixture, the more material will be incorporated into your hash. This means a less pure product but a larger amount of hash. For a quick wash, simply stirring or gently mixing the iso/weed is ideal, as the point is purity over quantity. The is no right or wrong way to do this - just remember, the quicker the wash and the less agitation, the purer the hash and the smaller the yield.
 
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I think you gave me as much information possible, the only thing left to do now is test it out, I guess trial and error is required to find the best quality/yield I need. Thanks for everything, but I have one more question, is there a way to incorporate the Honey Oil with the Hash? Ex. Mixing them together or something to increase the potency of the hash.
 
I think you gave me as much information possible, the only thing left to do now is test it out, I guess trial and error is required to find the best quality/yield I need. Thanks for everything, but I have one more question, is there a way to incorporate the Honey Oil with the Hash? Ex. Mixing them together or something to increase the potency of the hash.

You could mix them together, but I don't know why you would want to. I don't do this for the same reason I don't mix schwag and dank together. Like regs, iso hash is great if you want to smoke a lot. Like dank, honey oil is great if you want a stronger high and a better flavor. Iso hash will mask the good flavor of honey oil, much like schwag masks the flavor of dank when they are mixed together.

It's totally up to you though, experimentation is far better than taking my word for it!

One last reminder, be sure to stay safe. Iso and butane are both very flammable and potentially dangerous chemicals. While making either kind of hash, be sure to stay away from open flames, keep proper ventilation and don't smoke the hash until all the iso or butane has evaporated!

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. Enjoy :)
 
there is no magic to increase potency.
product in -> product out.

if you have a buster (like a space case) you can throw some of the crystal into the hash to increase your yield, but only by adding more product. this is a nice way to spruce up some hash oil.

unless you want more hash in total weight, do a Quick Wash. if its hash for yourself make it the best stuff, so avoid all the extra nasty stuff.
 
You can buy an awesome honey oil extractor for like 30 bucks online or probably make one for quite a bit less. I'd go with that opposed to hash if its a small amount of weed like that.
 
You can buy an awesome honey oil extractor for like 30 bucks online or probably make one for quite a bit less. I'd go with that opposed to hash if its a small amount of weed like that.

Turkey basters make good improvized butane honey oil extractors.
 
If you decide to make the hash, be sure to use the high % alcohol (93% instead of 70%) isopropyl. Otherwise its a dirtier product and evaporation takes forever.

So would it be better to use EverClear instead of using 91% ISO Alcohol for a cleaner product and faster evaporation time?
 
So would it be better to use EverClear instead of using 91% ISO Alcohol for a cleaner product and faster evaporation time?
Everclear is 95% grain alcohol and much more expensive (generally only bought to drink with). It will work, but the best AND cheapest option is for you to get some 99% isopropyl alcohol (best for making inexpensive hash oil).
 
Isopropyl works just as well as ethyl alcohol (drinking alcohol) and is much cheaper, so I would stick with isopropyl. If you want to make weed liquor, replace the isopropyl with ever clear and simply don't evaporation it. It is great for mixed drinks, but be careful not to drink too much as it's very intense. It looks really cool as well.

The 99% isopropyl is best but can be hard to find. I typically use 93% but prefer 99%.
 
Will, previously you said to leave the weed with the Iso for ~10-20 minutes...did you mean seconds? Because in many different threads people say "The bud should never be in contact with the ISO for more than 30 to 60 seconds"
 
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