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liquid porcelain

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...and if so - what were your thoughts on it during and now, in retrospect.
so - has anyone been so much in a loving, fearless, place of physical e euphoria that they've done something sexual with the same sex.
it could be something as harmless as making out with...masturbation - watching - oral sex...whatever...
did you like it? do you regret it? are you proud? was it a one time "i wonder what it's like" thing? did it change your life?
lets hear those stories best left for drunken dark nights and hardcore private conversation...
 
hmm usually i dont wanna be the first but im a bit excited about what happened so ill tell ya
i was at transmission with a bunch of friends, i was dancing (or jumping) suddenly my male friend came over and hugged me from behind (since im bi guy so i didnt care much) he put an arm around me, put his face close to my neck, i could feel his breath, i swear this is the greatest feeling i have ever had 8) , and i started holding his hand, his hand felt good too and i squeezed it hard and surprisingly, he squeezed back, then i turned around, my arms were around him, put my head on his shoulder and then i started to kiss his neck, then his cheek and then his mouth, i attempted tongue kissing but he left and went over to the other girl :(
best nite i ever had in a while
surely i liked it alot overall, i do regret coz i coz i dont wanna lose his friendship, we havent talk since, maybe hes just tired after Sat nite, ill call him later to see how he is
[ 17 February 2003: Message edited by: SxCrAvEr ]
 
uhhhhh i have never heard of that.....x makes me want girls even more than usual ......i think x would only make u do that if u were already gay and just to afraid to admit it unless u were rolling
[ 17 February 2003: Message edited by: Xah0lic4Life ]
 
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'Nuff said. Back on point. Personally, no. I have not had any homosexual thoughts. For the record, I am a heterosexual male. Actually, I don't really think about sex, period. I do like cuddling, kissing girls. Girls are so soft and smell nice. I do, however, hug my boys a lot more, but it's just a way of saying "thanks for being here with me, and being a friend!".
Some of what Xah0lic4Life said, I believe is true. I wouldn't quite put it that way, but since e lowers inhibitions, if someone is bi-curious, still in the closet, or whatever, then rolling would tend to bring those feelings to the surface and maybe give them the courage to act on them. On the otherhand, I have girlfriends that are straight, but when rolling, kiss and hug each other all night... :D Kind of like a fringe benefit for me rolling with hot girls.
[ 17 February 2003: Message edited by: Transition Flow ]
[ 20 February 2003: Message edited by: caffeine_voices ]
 
I agree with the comment above.
Im totally straight and been with my girl for almost 9 months, but when my mate has done a pill or 2 he usually comes over gives me a hug and sometimes gives me a kiss on the cheek (Not in a homosexual way) and says thanks for being such a good friend. Then we carry on dancing in the club or something. You guys know what im on about cause loads of people do it while they're drunk.
 
My boy and I have both had bi experiences while on pills... but I think with us it truly was a case of we would have done it anyway. We were both curious, opportunities presented themselves; we loved it. It's all good. There's no need to bash that which you do not understand, Xaholic. SxCrAvEr's experience sounds beautiful to me. He didn't push it. Sexuality is such a grey scale, we all fall somewhere along the line, some closer to one end than the other. Ecstacy just brings out desires that lie dormant, or else gives us the courage to finally act on them.
:) No regrets here :)
 
I decided that since I posted the topic - I should share my experiences...fair is fair.
my first real roll...all locked tight inside a hotel room in north carolina with 2 other bro's and a gorgeous girl... (i am a male, btw)
we rolled for 2 days straight. in the beginning, we were throwing around the usual massages...melting in your standard-issue cuddle-puddles and doing all the requisite tricks: vicks/seabreezes/binkies/lollies, blah blah...
after about 12 hours and two pills...whippits and nugz, the girl wanted to see all of our dicks.
"line up and whip 'em out." she was curious. and we were all rollin' face, so it didn't seem too out of the ordinary. after all, we had started feeling pretty damn close at this point.
she checked us out and we all laughed and giggled. the only logical thing left to do seemed to be a group shower. so we put in some funky breaks and piled into the tub. liz and josh - a couple - started getting into some lovely kisses and that evolved into some funky oral sex. scott and i looked on for a while. i was amazed that i wasn't uncomfortable: and i didn't see their doing this in the same *bathtub* as us so much as dirty as i saw it as terribly beautiful, loving, innocent and pure.
scott and i were overcome and after some soapy massages got into some wild tongue kissing...and yes, hands moved around and umm...checked things out...and the most blissful thing about it was the fearless way that we existed around and for each other. so we're not talkin' hardcore porn here - just a very gentle, loving, trusting phsyical intimacy: cuddling on the next level, if you will.
no shame no regrets all pride
love is big and strong
 
I've had a couple.
Whenever i've taken too much, im in the love stage where im loving everything and everyone.
Now, seeing as i know im hetero, i don't care who i hug or hold hands with. Be it a girl or a boy.
However, i went to this club once, i was walking around in a group with friends and then this gay person starts dancing behind me with his dick behind me. This REALLY freaked me out. I knew if i told my m8s there woulda been a fight, so i just left it. I just avoided him the whole night as he put me trip in the worst stage it had ever been.
Then that was the end of it. It did really freak me out though. Put me into a bad trip which pissed me off.
Another time, i punched this bloke in the face by accident while dancing with my hands blazing in the air. Your know when you punch above you as hard as you can whenever the bass hits? well, some bloke was next to me and i hit him!
He held his hand on his eye, then i said "im really sorry m8". Then he said "gimme a hug". Noticed he was high also. Gave him a hug and that was the end of it. Surprisingly, didn't feel shit cept wanting to apologise for hitting him.
This incident didn't effect me. Its just everytime when a gay approaches me, thats when i freak out. Its not cause im gay, its because i DONT WANT to be gay. And as ecstasy makes you love everything, that is the one thing i try to control when a gay comes up to me with their loving. EVERYTIME it puts me into a bad trip. No offense to the gays on this board, but sometimes i wish that clubs were split where gay people go and hetero people go. Although, lesbian women is nice to see :)
Being soba is a different matter, dont have to fight anything cause all i feel to want is women.
Eldaron
[ 17 February 2003: Message edited by: Eldaron ]
 
Also, i've wondered this cause a m8 told me and i dunno if its true or not. Can you peeps vouch for this?
He said to me "you'll never find a gay in a hip hop room. They only go to house, pop and dance rooms cause thats what they prefer".
This true?
[ 17 February 2003: Message edited by: Eldaron ]
 
Originally posted by Eldaron:
Also, i've wondered this cause a m8 told me and i dunno if its true or not. Can you peeps vouch for this?
He said to me "you'll never find a gay in a hip hop room. They only go to house, pop and dance rooms cause thats what they prefer".
This true?
[ 17 February 2003: Message edited by: Eldaron ]
Although what your friend said could be used as somewhat of a guideline, you can never generalize about any group of people anywhere . . . that's called predjudism.(spelling?)
You probably won't find me on a hip-hop floor, and more likely to find me on the other floors, because I find that in general, hip-hoppers are not very tolerant of gay people. (Note that I did not say ALL)
But then again, you'll also sometimes find me at concerts of Slipknot, Soulfly and Cannibal Corpse, because I love that heavy hard shit (and headbangers aren't exactly known for being the most tolerant of people either)
so don't generalize, its offensive
in response to the original post:
Although in day to day life, I'm pretty much only interested in men, whenever I'm rolling I find myself somewhat interested in trying things out with a girl, but it doesn't really go much farther beyond a lurking interest . . . never becomes an attraction or anything . . and I'm also usually too absorbed in the music to care anyway
[ 17 February 2003: Message edited by: VagabondGE ]
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For me, one of the most important differences between MDMA and other party drugs is it's capacity to open your mind, to open you up as a person to new experiences, to accept different people and different ways of living and to help you let go of the hangups that make some of you such ignorant, boring, uninteresting sheep in everyday life.
People who take pills then feel like they have to hold themselves back because, as they say...
And as ecstasy makes you love everything, that is the one thing i try to control when a gay comes up to me with their loving.
...make me fucking sick. As far as I'm concerned people who think like that don't deserve any better than to go out on a Saturday night, drink themselves comatose on whisky or gin and then die choking in a pool of their own vomit. If MDMA can't give you even a shred of tolerance for other people, than nothing can help you.
Okay... should.not.post.when.angry....
Well done liquid porcelain on your post and your story.
I was introduced to pills by a bisexual friend just over twelve months ago and when I first started dropping, it was mostly in gay clubs and gay parties. I was, or so I thought at the time, quite straight.
Then one night, peaking off my head, I was talking to some guy and next thing I was kissing him... and I had absolutely no problem with it. I remember the week after that I did a lot of soul searching, not that I had a problem with being gay but because it had never occured to me to question my own sexuality.
I was pretty confused at the time, but I decided to go with it and try being bi. I've been with quite a few guys and at the end of it all, it never felt quite right... as in, while it was enjoyable, my heart was never in it. During those wacky times, I even went home with a gorgeous transvestite one night. :)
These days, while I might find guys attractive, they do little for me sexually and I find myself... well quite frankly, chasing pussy again.
I still spend a lot of time in the gay scene and you wouldn't believe how many older men I chat to who tell me how they lived their whole lives straight, only to come out when they're 30 or 40. When they've already married and had kids and suddenly, everything they've known themselves to be has suddenly given way and they've been forced to deal with a new reality.
Part of the reason why I tried being with guys is because I didn't want this to happen to me. I'm not saying every straight guy should go out and suck some cock just to find out their own sexuality... but keeping your mind completely shut to the possiblity isn't going to do you any favors either.
The saddest plight in the world is that of the straight man constantly living in fear of being gay. The sort of person who always tells himself off for perhaps checking out a guy who he finds attractive. The sort of person who needs to stop before doing anything and ask himself, "Will this make me look gay?". It's sad, it's pathetic and from my experience this sort of self-denial, whether the guy is straight or whatever, is the cause of so much suffering in this world brought on by stupid male bravado, macho and testosterone.
Being a man isn't about living in fear of your own feelings. It's being brave enough to act on them and afterwards say "no shame no regrets all pride", liquid porcelain you are a fucking hero.
[ 20 February 2003: Message edited by: caffeine_voices ]
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i never think bout sex when i role which is odd considering thats all i think bout when sober lol!
ectasy finds ya inner emotions and puts it on display to everyone i find .
so yeah i dont no im not gay but when on pills i do give a manly hugs to mates like ne one but thats as far as it goes.
 
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My oppinions are nothing but expressing how im feeling. This is what this board is all about. As for responses? DO YOU READ?? i was telling a couple of storys and expressing my feelings at the time not replying (responding). Read before you flame a person.
Originaly posted by Eldaron:
ecstasy makes you love everything, that is the one thing i try to control
Originaly posted by hoptis:

...make me fucking sick. As far as I'm concerned people who think like that don't deserve any better than to go out on a Saturday night, drink themselves comatose on whisky or gin and then die choking in a pool.
Love on ecstasy is one thing a lot of us straight people control because we KNOW we wont want it when we're soba. This doesn't happen with alcohol with straight people but it does with Ecstasy. This brings to the point where when i take ecstasy, i have no regrets cause i know what i'd want if i was soba. Take your mind off your **** for a second and realise not all of us want or need to be gay.
it was mostly in gay clubs and gay parties. I was, or so I thought at the time, quite straight.
Then one night, peaking off my head, I was talking to some guy and next thing I was kissing him...
You want to flame other people for YOUR mistake you go right ahead. I didn't go into gay places, YOU did. And you got what you were waiting for waiting in a gay place. So be happy. Tell your story, dont flame other people for how they felt on their own experience. I think your just jelous cause you dont have the mindset to think like a bloke.
I even went home with a gorgeous transvestite one night. :)
Sounds to me as though you got more of a messed up mind than to be accusing people of how they're thinking.
^^^soz mods but I had to say that.
These days, while I might find guys attractive, they do little for me sexually and I find myself... well quite frankly, chasing pussy again.
The fact that your saying this, brings yourself to the point you regretted what you did and your expressing your anger for it.
Part of the reason why I tried being with guys is because I didn't want this to happen to me.
Rest my case.
The saddest plight in the world is that of the straight man constantly living in fear of being gay.
For your info fool, i have no problem with judgeing a man whether he's good looking or ugly or not. I said before, when im soba, i have no problem with gay people and i have no problem telling if a mans good looking or not. This does not make me gay nor does it make me homophobic. It does however make me judge gay pricks like you who regretted what they did. Liquid seems happy with it, it seems as though you've got regrets and those regrets are eating you up. Has it made you feel better today expressing that story?!!!
Being a man isn't about living in fear of your own feelings. It's being brave enough to act on them and afterwards say "no shame no regrets all pride",
Fear is apart of life. If you don't believe that then i dont know where the hell you've been.
Acting on feelings is another thing whether you feel to act on them or not. If you dont, then you won't. Doesn't make you less of a man to not go up 2 a bloke and do whatever. Its called being yourself. That, for which, you have a problem with.
Peace.
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I respect your thought Eldaron. I'm mostly gay and usually the club that I go to is mixed (but mostly gays). When I'm on e I find women attractive- I don't mind if they were to dance/touch me- it's all fun. I wouldn't go to a straight friend and stick my tongue in him- cause I know the consequences and it will betray our friendship. A simple touch, a gesture, a kiss on the cheek or forehead would probably suffice- as long that he knows that I care for him and that we're all in it for fun.
 
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