SpiralusSancti
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So often I read, and encountered, people who in bona fide suggest, usually to their parter to try something. Like so common in young age when someone pushes others to “don’t be a pussy” and try getting drunk or stoned. And as people get older it more often transforms to wish to share some to them great experience, to try sex on drugs and such things without thinking twice about possible bad outcome as they are either convinced some substance can’t cause problems or wont cuz his/her partner will just try it or do only seldom.
But that’s not what I have in mind with my question. Very early upon entering world of drugs I met people who were addicted to something, or even outright destroyed their lives by some substance but still were suggesting to me and my friends to “chip in” and get some heroin with them or not being able to, or just claiming so sometimes I’m sure, get what someone asked for (like weed, speed or xtc) and suggesting that they can get heroin (or other opiods). It was plain obvious to me what their intention really was, get more stuff for them by creating more addicts. But it wasn’t to all surrounding me, and neither was it cuz they weren’t bright. Some were simply not educated well enough about dangers brought by use of some substance and sometimes person in question was manipulated by various means to use something he/she otherwise wouldn’t. Perfect example of second case was when really sexy, charming girl (a lot older then my crew at that time and using her attributes well) would get drunk with us, smoke a few splifs and than proceed to suggest we get some heroin; either like it was in a spark of moment, cuz she felt bad/down cuz of all from past and present or whatever sounded appropriate and truthful. She would always sprinkle conversation prior to that or after that with what could be called HR talk, like we should never use needles, talking how some drug fucked her up a lot more than heroin, about of hell of WD if you end up using a lot and all kinds of what seamed as friendly advices. To try to make all that more convincing it wasn’t until she left town she connected us to her plug, and surprise surprise that person was her blood relative selling and hooked to heroin. Two of mine good friends in quite short time became I.V. users and to this day suffer consequences of, from our circle, being closest friends with that girl.
Fast forward a few years one of those two friends I stayed really good with didn’t ever considered to suggest I might better not do opiods (I used them very sparingly but still) and at one point really disappointed me by trying to convince me to try amphetamine I.V.. Saying like it’s a great feeling and why wouldn’t I try it, not like people get hooked to that. I passed the offer and was sad how low he fell.
Latter I experienced that person I would sometimes get methadone solution was suggesting to me and my then girl to do it I.V. Adding how he’s better than a nurse at administering I.V. drugs, how it won’t hurt and such lame things. He was a smart guy but really consumed by both prescription and street drugs and his offer/pushy suggestion made any further communication or hanging out together cuz of his good sides really faded out after that.
Similar thing happened with a person I still to this day find a friend but I’m sad how distorted some of his values became. In this case I wasn’t really that bothered cuz he was suggesting we take something I.V. because he even considered suggesting something like that to his friend (he knew well how broad my drug use was so I might chose to believe he assumed that it wouldn’t affect my life in a negative way and know he’s intention wasn’t to get me hooked like some previously mentioned) but what really bothered me that my partner at the time was recovering addict and he didn’t think twice how that could leg her back to really bad place.
And last examples are where a girl suggested I do something I.V. , well she was certainly more encouraged it instead strongly suggesting against it as after all I’m sure her expression of love toward me wasn’t all fake. Her reasoning was that I’m using drugs to such extent that I’ll for sure try I.V. so might as well with her. I experienced a similar thing with one other partner and her reasoning was I’m atm bigger junkie than she is (didn’t really say exactly so but something in lines of that). In both cases it was pretty disappointing that girls who experienced needle hell didn’t really saw rejoining it with a person they claim to love. Their hard life and even harder past, my nowhere responsible use at the time or anything that comes to mind is of little comfort when trying to see it in any way but wanting to trade all good for a shoot.
It’s truly sad to think how much better persons all those man and woman would stayed or become if they didn’t let their hearts to be so consumed by sweet venom they love too much.
But that’s not what I have in mind with my question. Very early upon entering world of drugs I met people who were addicted to something, or even outright destroyed their lives by some substance but still were suggesting to me and my friends to “chip in” and get some heroin with them or not being able to, or just claiming so sometimes I’m sure, get what someone asked for (like weed, speed or xtc) and suggesting that they can get heroin (or other opiods). It was plain obvious to me what their intention really was, get more stuff for them by creating more addicts. But it wasn’t to all surrounding me, and neither was it cuz they weren’t bright. Some were simply not educated well enough about dangers brought by use of some substance and sometimes person in question was manipulated by various means to use something he/she otherwise wouldn’t. Perfect example of second case was when really sexy, charming girl (a lot older then my crew at that time and using her attributes well) would get drunk with us, smoke a few splifs and than proceed to suggest we get some heroin; either like it was in a spark of moment, cuz she felt bad/down cuz of all from past and present or whatever sounded appropriate and truthful. She would always sprinkle conversation prior to that or after that with what could be called HR talk, like we should never use needles, talking how some drug fucked her up a lot more than heroin, about of hell of WD if you end up using a lot and all kinds of what seamed as friendly advices. To try to make all that more convincing it wasn’t until she left town she connected us to her plug, and surprise surprise that person was her blood relative selling and hooked to heroin. Two of mine good friends in quite short time became I.V. users and to this day suffer consequences of, from our circle, being closest friends with that girl.
Fast forward a few years one of those two friends I stayed really good with didn’t ever considered to suggest I might better not do opiods (I used them very sparingly but still) and at one point really disappointed me by trying to convince me to try amphetamine I.V.. Saying like it’s a great feeling and why wouldn’t I try it, not like people get hooked to that. I passed the offer and was sad how low he fell.
Latter I experienced that person I would sometimes get methadone solution was suggesting to me and my then girl to do it I.V. Adding how he’s better than a nurse at administering I.V. drugs, how it won’t hurt and such lame things. He was a smart guy but really consumed by both prescription and street drugs and his offer/pushy suggestion made any further communication or hanging out together cuz of his good sides really faded out after that.
Similar thing happened with a person I still to this day find a friend but I’m sad how distorted some of his values became. In this case I wasn’t really that bothered cuz he was suggesting we take something I.V. because he even considered suggesting something like that to his friend (he knew well how broad my drug use was so I might chose to believe he assumed that it wouldn’t affect my life in a negative way and know he’s intention wasn’t to get me hooked like some previously mentioned) but what really bothered me that my partner at the time was recovering addict and he didn’t think twice how that could leg her back to really bad place.
And last examples are where a girl suggested I do something I.V. , well she was certainly more encouraged it instead strongly suggesting against it as after all I’m sure her expression of love toward me wasn’t all fake. Her reasoning was that I’m using drugs to such extent that I’ll for sure try I.V. so might as well with her. I experienced a similar thing with one other partner and her reasoning was I’m atm bigger junkie than she is (didn’t really say exactly so but something in lines of that). In both cases it was pretty disappointing that girls who experienced needle hell didn’t really saw rejoining it with a person they claim to love. Their hard life and even harder past, my nowhere responsible use at the time or anything that comes to mind is of little comfort when trying to see it in any way but wanting to trade all good for a shoot.
It’s truly sad to think how much better persons all those man and woman would stayed or become if they didn’t let their hearts to be so consumed by sweet venom they love too much.
