BourbonMac
Bluelighter
For me, kratom helped me stop drinking excessively. I didn't fully give it up until about 3 years later, more weed helped me truly quit drinking, but I also just kind of grew tired of it. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, I would drink to extreme excess a lot between 19 and 22 in particular, I'm really surprised I never got alcohol poisoning. Even before I regularly drank heavy I was able to stomach 40 shots and be fine. But that's really a testament to the massive alcoholism that runs in both sides of my family. An uncle of mine who passed away in September of 2010 used to go through literally 2 or 3 handles, he did this while staying with us once and passed out in the chair and pissed himself. Alcohol isn't even what killed him, he did... put himself on DNR in the hospital with freshly caught DVT, so easily treatable, just remove the clot.
Had just seen him 3 weeks prior to this and it felt so unreal, I do recall there being some arguments between him and other relatives around that time, but he always had problems. Whether or not all the alcohol use caused the DVT I'm not sure. According to google it's very possible. Just 2 years ago today, Pat Jr, his son, died of an aortic dissection at just 35. This apparently can also be caused by alcohol use and I know he was also a reckless drinker, he'd have entire kegs and pass out on someone's driveway. Both of them had great military careers, some PTSD, but especially for Pat Sr, an extremely abusive upbringing. I once heard a story about him running away from home 12 states. It sounds like some Forrest Gump shit but that's how he was, he couldn't be still, and he could run basically forever without running out of stamina. That's why after he'd come back from Iraq he'd be so aimless.
If I'd kept up drinking heavily like I had, I'm sure I would have some definite health problems, and maybe it would've escalated to their levels. I used to think when I first started drinking about my cousin Pat in particular, in this drunken stupor like "he'd be so proud to see how much I can drink" which is... kind of disturbing looking back.
If you really have a problem with the drink it is never good to rely on another drug in its place unless it is genuinely safe to use. Kratom is very safe, but this alone isn't why I quit, I just kind of grew tired of it. Tired of hangovers, feeling like shit. In the early days, hangovers actually made me feel euphoric and good the next day. This is acutally pretty common and there's a subreddit called hangovereffect full of people basically chasing that same "high" by stacking tons of supplements to give themselves the type of brain fog that comes with a hangover. Now, hangovers just give me massive anxiety, but I've been sober since 3/7/2020. I think I posted about kratom and weed helping me quit but it was just a stroke of luck. Nobody in my family just "doesn't like it anymore." I'm the only one to have broken that chain, all my relatives wondering how I stopped, since basically all of my cousins are alcoholics. I care a lot more for weed and psychedelics these days, the latter can be really good for addictions in general.
Would be interested in hearing how you're doing now @new2drugs
Had just seen him 3 weeks prior to this and it felt so unreal, I do recall there being some arguments between him and other relatives around that time, but he always had problems. Whether or not all the alcohol use caused the DVT I'm not sure. According to google it's very possible. Just 2 years ago today, Pat Jr, his son, died of an aortic dissection at just 35. This apparently can also be caused by alcohol use and I know he was also a reckless drinker, he'd have entire kegs and pass out on someone's driveway. Both of them had great military careers, some PTSD, but especially for Pat Sr, an extremely abusive upbringing. I once heard a story about him running away from home 12 states. It sounds like some Forrest Gump shit but that's how he was, he couldn't be still, and he could run basically forever without running out of stamina. That's why after he'd come back from Iraq he'd be so aimless.
If I'd kept up drinking heavily like I had, I'm sure I would have some definite health problems, and maybe it would've escalated to their levels. I used to think when I first started drinking about my cousin Pat in particular, in this drunken stupor like "he'd be so proud to see how much I can drink" which is... kind of disturbing looking back.
If you really have a problem with the drink it is never good to rely on another drug in its place unless it is genuinely safe to use. Kratom is very safe, but this alone isn't why I quit, I just kind of grew tired of it. Tired of hangovers, feeling like shit. In the early days, hangovers actually made me feel euphoric and good the next day. This is acutally pretty common and there's a subreddit called hangovereffect full of people basically chasing that same "high" by stacking tons of supplements to give themselves the type of brain fog that comes with a hangover. Now, hangovers just give me massive anxiety, but I've been sober since 3/7/2020. I think I posted about kratom and weed helping me quit but it was just a stroke of luck. Nobody in my family just "doesn't like it anymore." I'm the only one to have broken that chain, all my relatives wondering how I stopped, since basically all of my cousins are alcoholics. I care a lot more for weed and psychedelics these days, the latter can be really good for addictions in general.
Would be interested in hearing how you're doing now @new2drugs
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As long as it is the real deal and not the atrocities sold as "Italian food" like pineapple and or buffalo chicken pizza...."the horror, the horror...."
.. thanks so much.