Has anyone ever come to the conclusion...

[tBirdee]

Yeah I love how a cat will all of a sudden get scared or start running for what seems like no reason. Kittys :D

 

[DOB]

Yeah I love how a cat will all of a sudden get scared or start running for what seems like no reason. Kittys :D

its totaly cute I cant image living without my tiger little friend

 

[aussieblues]

Cats are only animal I think that are like constantly tripping... sometimes they see some halucinations becose they stare at wall like some mouse is running there or something when nothing is moving on wall.

Yeah I love how a cat will all of a sudden get scared or start running for what seems like no reason. Kittys :D

Hehe, I love kitties too! Unfortunately I had to leave my little buddy with my friend in Ohio. But at least he gets to stay with her cool kitty Muggles.

 

[GZero]

Have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like?

 

[Sega420]

My dog is quite smart (border collie/Australian shepherd mix), when I smoke pot he and I seem to be on the same wavelength. I don't think I believe that animals are constantly in the psychedelic mindset, though I tend to think they have a better understanding of the workings of the natural universe (the concept of oneness). Unlike many humans who do all they can to prolong their life, animals seem to seek death when the start to become enfeebled (dogs wander off to die, etc), which leads me to believe that they understand that it's nothing to be feared.

oui oui

 

[Sykoknot]

Cats have naturally higher seretonin levels. They are always in a state of pseudo-rolling. Hence the love of physical stimulation (scratching, petting, etc).

 

[jsnake]

Bahaha, how did this escalate into a full-blown discussion about animals? Don't think some of these psychonauts quite made it back to the ground after their mystical journey of the Milky Way.
My old Maltese only had one eye. We called him Doofus, and couldn't think of a much more fitting name. He was one with the universe and shit, cos he never thought about anything. You could tell just from the way he'd rolled around on concrete like he was having a ball, and just from the vacant way he'd cock his head slightly to one side when you looked at him or was speaking to him.
This life is full of paradoxes though, so perhaps smarter is dumber? The less intelligent you are, the more content you seem to be with life. I wish I didn't understand how fucked up some of the shit I notice in life is, and I got a nice life. Look at Tupac... Well, if you listen to Tupac anyway.

 

[Liquid Sunshine]

ausieblues: I wasnt making a statement about intelligence at all. I was merely stating that animals DO fear death, and that it appears to be the main driving force behind living things. The want to survive.

I disagree that animals arent self aware. I believe there self awareness is lesser than ours, but do to there lack of ego they are much more connected to the earth. They only take what they need, and dont ever seem to have self-destructive habits like that in humans.

Actually, many animals only appear to 'take only what they need' because of necessity issues. Many animals are gluttonous and will eat as much as they possibly can, as often as they can, when they are presented with the option. Other animals simply lack the physical parts of the brain involved in higher though processes. Reptiles lack the parts of the brain involved even in loving (many snake lovers will be angry, and get angry whenever I say this) and other emotions. Animals are not perfect, they are simply not good enough at preventing their own deaths to unbalance the ecosystem, as we humans do. Unfortunately, we are no better than animals morally, only mechanically. We minmaxed, put all our points into INT.

 

[B9]

That animals eyes explain every reason why they've never been able to exhibit much off the hand of logical reasoning? They are permanently dilated thus meaning they must be permanently "trapped"in a state of psychedelic euphoria!!!!!!!!!! Just a wild explanation that i gave to a group of friends while coming down from candy-flipping, but hah id like your two cents.

No I thought it was a lack of a coherent set of symbols & sounds which prevented communication between humans & animals as we usually know it Jim.


This post was free you panhandling urchin

 

[dimmfreak]

ha just letting yall know i dont believe it myself, just thought it was quite a weird epiphany to come to haha

 

[Shakti]

That animals eyes explain every reason why they've never been able to exhibit much off the hand of logical reasoning? They are permanently dilated thus meaning they must be permanently "trapped"in a state of psychedelic euphoria!!!!!!!!!! Just a wild explanation that i gave to a group of friends while coming down from candy-flipping, but hah id like your two cents.

Logic and reason are relative tools or aspects of mind. Their employment is based primarily on emotional stimulus it seems to me. Animals have logical capacity as well.

And, no, animals' eye's are not always dilated. If you met my cat, the wild and untame-able freak that she is (just how I like my women though), you'd know that she quite often is in a state very different from euphoria.

As, much as I think your theory is bunk (but hey, I come up with a new bunk theory every quarter second) there is something to be said for animals response to tripping people. They totally get that you're in a different state and can be very responsive to it. I think this may have a fair amount to do with the fact that most people seem to be disconnected from or deliberately blocking the shared consciousness level, or in other words the intersubjective co-arrisal of reality itself. I think that's a product of society; we're indirectly taught to put our blinders up. Many animals, higher order mammals at least, never seem to lose that intuitive access to intersubjective mindspace.

See, told you I come up with bunk theories every quarter second

 

[indigojoker]

Yo, so physically humans are obviously not the most mobile, most strong, most social, physically superior being on this earth. In fact, I take an approach that would call humans the lowest of accidents on an evolutionary chain. So how did we get primary resources? We compensated for our physical deficiencies by actively using creativity to create symbols and languages. Thus the human became a more social being, relying on others for info and resources. However, because this was not in accordance with our physical boundaries, incongruousness in the flow of the world occurs. Division of labor, slavery, invention of religion, all these concoctions could have been construed by one being, who like someone said before, would eat everything in front of them if given the oppurtunity and thus rises the invention of hierarchies, corporations and societies. I think the human is an individual being by nature, if you ever have seen Planet Earth where swarms of flies mate or schools of fish swim or countless birds engulf the sky you can never detect a leader of these bands of social organisms because nature has led them to be a physically social organism that just "knows" to stay with everyone else.
Intelligence in itself is an illusion. Humans may have the capacity to destroy the fiercest of animals and even the world, but that wouldn't be a very "smart" idea would it? I think after the Cold War the "leaders" of our "society" decided that technology really isn't the greatest thing for humankind, as you can see wars have dwindled in their magnificent destructive power.

I sort of cringe when people boast about how intelligent we are. I recommend watching as much planet earth as you can, baked or not, to see the world as it really is. There are regions of trees that migrated north in Asia where no animals can bear to live and it is the most luscious thriving forest I have ever seen.

I just got done studying zoology and theories of personality for around 5 hours with minimal breaks, my mind is stimulated and that 2c is coming back to comfortably haunt me

Anyways, due to the illusions we impose on ourselves via symbols and language, I must observe that humans are the most sober of any animal, even when we're fucked up.