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Has anybody ever gotten thoughts like this on psychedelics?

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Warped Reality

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Ever since I started doing acid, I started thinking extremely weird. Not exactly in a bad way though. It's actually sort of interesting to think of.
I keep getting this random thoughts like "What if my entire life that I've lived was one delusion. What if nothing is actually how I perceive it. What if I'm in a coma right now or something along those lines and this is all a dream?" - But I know you're thinking - No, that's complete non-sense, there's no possible way. That's what I started to think - until I thought of this. It is physically impossible to prove this wrong. No doctor, or any one of such sort could ever tell you it's non-sense because if this is true then they're just an illusion. They're not real either. There is literally no way to prove this wrong, but there is no way to prove it right either.

Actually, now that I think of it - none of this has probably made the slightest bit of sense to anyone. I guess you need to experience it to understand it.

Personally, I'm going to believe that what I just said ISN'T true and that life is in-fact real. It's just when I trip really hard, I get these thought processes that are just filled with "WHAT IF...".

Call me crazy, whatever - I'm not. I'm just discussing these thought processes with you guys that I have when I do mushrooms/LSD.

Does anybody else think about this? Or is it just me.
 
its pretty good man. its got keanu reaves n shit. You should check it out.

We are all just giving you shit because that realization is pretty much taken for granted once you have dropped L at least once.
 
I think he's being sarcastic when he says he hasn't seen the matrix.

Anyway, yes I have had these thoughts before. This thought of what lies beyond our senses is the cornerstone of philosophy up to around the 19th century. Who is doing the perceiving? What is self? The philosophical model that I relate to is the one that says the existence of an objective reality is questionable, and the cosmos presented to our senses doesn't exist and is just the mind's method of framing its experiences. What does reality look like to a spider? I think humans perceive reality in generally the same way because we are biologically wired to make sense of it that way. Our model of reality just happens to be successful so it is used.
Immanuel Kant stresses that although the cosmos helps us frame our experience, its existence is questionable....he still faced the same old questions about the origin of sense data itself. He ended up coming to the same conclusion that Descartes, Locke and Hume did, and that is a general acceptance of an external world’s existence. -me
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Yeah, I get thoughts like this all the time, and FAR trippier ones, from way back before I started doing psychedelics. I notice that for a full week after taking acid, I'm in a frame of mind that feels far more open, surreal and otherworldly. I'm very sensitive to my environment and I have ideas that some people might consider insane, like the ones you brought up. For example...

Suppose we're only limited to this corporeal existence by our own deep-set beliefs? Since we are all part of the mind of God - since that's what reality really is, a thought - is it possible to deprogram ourselves from the belief that we're human, that we die, that we're confined to gravity, etc.? Perhaps the only reason we can't do those things is because the programming of the deep unconscious is so powerful. But there might be some truth to the stories of people with miracle healing powers, who can appear in two places at once, and all that shit - maybe they found a way. Suppose death is a total liberation from the human illusion? We cease to be God experiencing one small human life, and become God with that human experience as its base reality, free to roam the universe for all eternity. Perhaps every living entity is a parallel universe unto themselves...
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I remind myself that there's a lot of "what-ifs" in there and not much in the way of evidence. But it doesn't stop me from laying in bed looking at the ceiling going "Wooooow..."
 
If its true then all of us are just part of your illusion.
 
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this question is one of the quintessential philosophical/tripping thoughts of all time. you're not the first who has grappled with it, but remember that if you ever try to find out the answer, you won't be able to come back and tell the rest of us. so busy your mind with other, more pertinent questions that are FAR better trip material: what does yellow sound like? why do cows moo? what are my goals for this next week/month/year and how do i realize them efficiently? or just zone out while watching your aquarium, that's a well-kept secret of those who get the most out of their drugs.
 
Dissociatives also told me that I created the universe, have a significant role in 2012 and that I need to re-produce to save the world/everything.

I dunno if I would trust dissociatives that much.


OP: Those thoughts are pretty normal after using psychedelics. Actually I couldn't imagine not having them now.
 
Warped Reality said:
Ever since I started doing acid, I started thinking extremely weird. Not exactly in a bad way though. It's actually sort of interesting to think of.
I keep getting this random thoughts like "What if my entire life that I've lived was one delusion. What if nothing is actually how I perceive it. What if I'm in a coma right now or something along those lines and this is all a dream?" - But I know you're thinking - No, that's complete non-sense, there's no possible way. That's what I started to think - until I thought of this. It is physically impossible to prove this wrong. No doctor, or any one of such sort could ever tell you it's non-sense because if this is true then they're just an illusion. They're not real either. There is literally no way to prove this wrong, but there is no way to prove it right either.

Actually, now that I think of it - none of this has probably made the slightest bit of sense to anyone. I guess you need to experience it to understand it.

Personally, I'm going to believe that what I just said ISN'T true and that life is in-fact real. It's just when I trip really hard, I get these thought processes that are just filled with "WHAT IF...".

Call me crazy, whatever - I'm not. I'm just discussing these thought processes with you guys that I have when I do mushrooms/LSD.

Does anybody else think about this? Or is it just me.
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Yeah, I've had those thoughts since I was 11 or 12. It's actually a long standing branch of philosophy called solipsism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
 
Reminds me of a very special thing about my mind that I discovered when I was a little kid:

Whenever I tried to imagine pure nothingness -- as in, "what if the big bang never happened?" -- I would get this huge surge of this incredibly unique sense of amazement and perplexity, to the point of laughing out loud. :) It still happens to this day!

Just try it. Ask yourself, "what if nothing existed?".
 
also i had them thought years back just of pot read my what if thread of 2cb
 
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