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Hallucenigenic studies on "Extreme" prisoners?

CDiddles

CDiddles

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I know studies were done on terminally ill patients. Has there been any research into the same kind of thing but on very violent people/people jailed for life for the atrocities they have committed?

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Do you think it could positively change a person like that?
 
The use of prison subjects for medical experiments, especially psychotropic drugs, is one of the black marks on the rather lax attitude of pharmacology before reforms came in... If you do find studies I would expect them to be from the 80s and back. This is almost as bad as feeding LSD to autistic kids - another antiquated experiment that no doctor would perform nowadays.
 
Leary did a study with psilocybin on prisoners in the early 60's, the concord prison experiment. I was just reading a follow-up analysis of it, though I haven't finished yet, the results sound inconclusive. And I'm not sure how extreme the prisoners were.

Also on maps theres a study of the use of LSD for treatment of childhood schizophrenia.

I admit it's a bit morally questionable, but I don't think it's too bad with good setting and lots of support, which was provided in these studies. The stuff the CIA did is really fucked up though, maybe that's what you're thinking of Sekio?

^ Beat me to it :)
 
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Start with MKULTRA - basically they wanted a way to control/manipulate peoples minds and looked into various ways of doing it. Some of the things they tried were giving LSD to prisoners and mental patients without their consent and seeing if it was useful for their purposes. The emphasis was on psychologically breaking the person so they would reveal information, or could be used as a spy, rather than any positive use.
 
Whether it's for studies or not, If the person was basically forced to take it I think it is a load of corrupt bullshit and should never happen again. Reminds me of all those torture attempts on the likes of mescaline during World War 2 to try and make people spill. It could either be the funniest torture ever or the most horrendous due to amplified emotion (most likely the second).

Although, despite that I'd still like to see more links; it is interesting to see, however what we know now should just be left at that.
 
What I was talking about at first was more a kind of voluntary thing. The likes of LSD being given to willing participants who really have no chance of getting out of prison the remainder of their lives. In a way, see if it could "heal" their minds or "enlighten" them to the horrible things they have done. Obviously this kind of thing won't happen any time soon but maybe even reintroduce such characters back into society after therapy. Drugging without consent is absolutely horrendous especially when it means one could quite possibly go to hell and back for no real reason! Interesting links guys... cheers!
 
SpecialK_ said:
Reminds me of all those torture attempts on the likes of mescaline during World War 2 to try and make people spill. It could either be the funniest torture ever or the most horrendous due to amplified emotion (most likely the second).
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Depends how much they gave them. If I was being interrogated with 300mg of mescaline, I'd probably be more resistant and cunning, even dissociated from the pain of any physical torture (as long as it wasn't too severe.) DXM would be a much more powerful interrogation drug at low third plateau.

CDiddles said:
What I was talking about at first was more a kind of voluntary thing.
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There's no 'volunatry' for prisoners serving life.
 
yeah i knew about the mkultra and wondered about them giving psychs to ppl under interrogation
 
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