Half U.S. ecstasy comes from B.C.

that's funny as i've stopped in blaine for gas, and i never had any idea it was such a special place:D since there isn't much else to the town.
 
StagnantReaction said:
I thought 90% of US ecstasy came from Israel.
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I dunno about "90%" but I have been following the DEA's reports on it and it's estimated that Israel is currently the largest production source for the pure MDMA, and Canada is currently where MOST of the tablets are being pressed - if you go to the DEA's website and read some back issues of "The Microgram Bulletin" which is located at: http://www.dea.gov/programs/forensicsci/microgram/bulletins_index.html - it is an e-zine for law enforcement types mainly, it details things like unique busts or emerging trends that we may have all known about from this board (and other forums) but are unique enough to law enforcement to be published, such as the first submission of some supposed "LSD Blotter" that turned out to be 2C-I, various interesting new ways of smuggling drugs, large lab seizures and the like ..

As for Canada, you will see things like info on busts made all over Canada, there is one back issue that has pictures of 20 Di's seized out of a total of 147 at a large pressing operation, the powders were already on hand, Canada was just the pressing location - you can see it in the September 2003 issue, check them out, see if you remember having any of those stamps back prior to to 9/03 ... an older issue (now archived, you need a subscription to view it) showed two presses and around 40 different Di's seized in a Canada pressing plant with enough MDMA to make over 1,000,000 pills per month. Another interesting report on Canadian made MDMA tablets is the entire story of the joint operation between the DEA, RCMP, IRS, ICE, and about half a dozen other agencies titled "Operation Candy Box" .. another good one that focuses on Canadian pill manufacturing is "Operation Sweet Tooth" - even has a map showing where the MDMA is coming from into Canada ... anyway, I could go one pointing out more and more of these busts but if you are interested go to the DEA's website and search ...

It is believed that Israel is such a strong country for MDMA production as you have some of the highest officials on the take and a lot of talented chemists very eager for work of any kind. There was even a CNN article a few months ago that said a "pesticide factory" was found to be making 3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl-2-propanone (MDP-2-P) in MASSIVE amounts, and once you have that it's basically a totally quick, easy, and painless route to pure MDMA - so they are not using Safrole, they are starting out with the almost finished product. The "pesticide plant" was not starting with any type of sassy-oil either, rather they were using their facilities to make it from some other weird stuff you would only see used in major operations ... if you have Israel authorities basically turning a blind eye to operations like that it becomes very easy to setup these "super labs" - and of course the pure powder is easier to smuggle into Canada then pressed pills ... but Europe is still making it's fair share so don't write the Netherlands off yet .. further reading shows that Bulgaria has recently had some major operations shut down along with some Vietnamese exporting large amounts of MDMA ... North Korea is believed to actually be one of the largest sources for not only pure opium but heroin (as when your government says "plow all that corn and wheat out of your fields and plant these poppy seeds" you do it if you live in North Korea) - I only bring that up as a point to illustrate that stopping ecstasy is only a pipe dream .. the production has spread world-wide and flourishes in countries where the government doesn't care or officials can easily be bought off .. given that MDMA is so profitable, it only makes sense that running a massive lab, then selling your finished product to the West where the price can be jacked way up .. well, it's the way to go ...

I guess all the good quality pills being made in Canada makes up for them giving us "Tom Green" ..

//p
 
dilated_pupils said:
No tabs are coming from Europe at all? News to me 8(
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Im not gonna get into another one of these conversations as ive been in them far to many times!!! Well maybe once...

Maybe i shouldnt have said NONE, but about 95% of Americas pills are made in... Yes America, like this has been covered plenty of times.

Did you never relise why so many pills have meth in them?

Meth is not in Europe much and especially not in pills.

Most pills in America are American made, fact.
 
i8an8th1 said:
Why is it that more MDMA comes from Canada and just isn't made USA? Can Canada get the chems easier?
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It's not being made in Canada, the pills are only being pressed there, the MDMA/MDA/MDEA/etc.. is being made in other countries and smuggled in. Canada actually has some fairly tight laws on precursors. I still see from checking a website that Sassafras oil (90%-95% pure Safrole) is still being sold and shipped from Canada, so I guess they either have yet to put restrictions on that or else the people behind this website have just been lucky in not getting busted.

The labs found in the US are generally small - nothing compared to some of the labs busted overseas ... here in the states your labs are mainly yer kilobatcher and stuff like that, namely as the US has REALLY made it a bitch to get even precursors to make precursors, so unless someone is ordering chemicals from outside the US in large amounts, or is doing all the extra work to make the chemical from scratch using unwatched chemicals, then the labs that continue to get busted in the US will be these small labs selling either their finished product as either a powder or selling it in gel-caps - it's simply because while you can get all the chemicals domestically, many have quantity limitations or require work to get them to a state of usability. Lets also not forget that while there are people you can always pay to look the other way, if you get too large, someone will notice.

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TheSimpsons said:
Maybe i shouldnt have said NONE, but about 95% of Americas pills are made in... Yes America, like this has been covered plenty of times.
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You actually claim that 95% of the pills in the US start their life as precursors, are made from MDxx made from said precusors, and pressed into tablets - and it's all done right here in the US? Well, since you typed it then it must be right!
Did you never relise why so many pills have meth in them?
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It is a cheap and easy to make additive that makes a pill with a lower amount of MDx in it seem to be more potent then they actually are ... are you asserting that the reason pills have meth inthem is because the US has such a problem with clandestine labs? I mean, it's not like there are any other places where meth can be made ... I guess those Mexican National Labs and large seizures from other countries (like Israel for instance) were all just proaganda to make it look like not all the meth is made inthe US ... you have done a great service to this community by exposing this corruption, pfft, why didn't I think of that, of COURSE! Meth is only made in the US, therefore ALL PILLS THAT CONTAIN METH STARTED LIFE IN THE US!
Meth is not in Europe much and especially not in pills.
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Man, you beeter keep that inside information to yourself, you will ruin the secret! Read up on the history of MDx labs busts inthe US, and now, as of the last few years, read up on the busts of MDx labs in other countries ... then read up on how all that MDx from other countries is being smugled into Canada and pressed into pills, the same pills being sold in the US ... in fact, those massive DEA operations that exposed the manufacture of pills in Canada indicated that at several tablet pressing sites large amounts of *gasp* METHAMPHETAMINE were found ...
Most pills in America are American made, fact.
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Site your source, any source.

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WHEN i say America, i dont mean the damn US i mean ALL OF AMERICAN, North and south!

Im gonna try and do this again, the pills are pressed in America, i aint saying that they are making it from scratch there, but they are pressed there!

Why does almost EVERY single damn pill in America have Meth in it??? And very VERY VERY VERY little pills in Europe have that problem?

If the pills are coming from Europe, then the same damn pressers aint gonna say - ''Well this batch is going to America, lets fill it with Meth''

Maybe the MDMA is getting imported from overseas or made in Mexico or something but the pills aint.

If Americas pills where coming from Europe, then yous would get the same damn pills as us! But instead yous get the same damn logo in about 12 different colours with some Meth in them! These are getting made and pressed in America, and like i said when i say America i meant North and South America as a whole.

Yes i would say that the MDMA aint getting made in America, and i didnt want ANYONE to think thats what i meant from my replys, but the pills are getting made in America, Made and Pressed.
 
TheSimpsons said:
WHEN i say America, i dont mean the damn US i mean ALL OF AMERICAN, North and south!
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I would wager to say that when you said "American pills are made in America *MOST* people would assume you were talking about the lower 48 states that comprise the country best know as simply "America", the arguement is in FAVOR of pills being pressed in Canada, with the MDxx comming from OTHER CONTRIES such as ISRAEL (along with things like methamphetamine) ... so yeah, you may have the people that press the pills in Canada buying large amounts of meth from Mexico and buying their MDMA from some other country on another continent .. then in Canada the MDxx may be cut with some meth or whatever and then the "prep" is ready for the tableting machine ... to the MDMA and meth you must then add a filler, a binder, and a lubricant - which it seems the tablet makers are just now geting the ratios right, as for awhile Canada had some crumbly ass pills .. it's an art getting the pressure just right (how many tons of force is each tablet being subjected to) along with getting the right amount of binder, filler, and lubricant ...

And I think that 95% figure is still way off now that you have clairified by "America" you mean the continents of North America and South America and not just the "USA" - just check out the DEA's site, or hell, google "ecstasy siezure" + "US Customs" and you will find plenty of stories about people getting caught bringing in pills from Holland and other countries in Europe by the suitcase full in amounts of tens to hundreds of thousands of tabs - and that is only what they catch, so just because Canada is now stepping up to supply a very large percent of the pills we get in America (as in the lower 48 states) there are still a VERY LARGE percent comming in from overseas, already in tablet form, pressed in places like Holland ..

The smell is one give away, as when you start with Safrole (and the pill has that "black licorice" smell people equate with the pill being "pure") and the final pill still reaks of it, what you actually had was a chemist that allowed some unreacted Safrole make it all the way through to the end - the reasult of someone not giving their final product multiple hard washings (as you would end up losing some volume of the powder, even if it's a contaminate or something unreacted, to them volume of powder = how much money is made) if you take another route that never uses a precursor like that you can get a pill with very little scent but it may blow you away - remember pure MDMA is odorless ...

But still, you only need to check the various pill-testing sites - some of the pills that are all over Eurpoe are also making a vairly huge mark in the states, at least in the area I live, the last few good pills I had were first seen in areas of Europe ... figure if they are busting people at JFK Intl. comming in from the Netherlands with suticases that have a couple hundred thousand pills on an almost monthly basis (cf: DEA Bulletins, the larger busts make it to CNN.com) you gotta figure for every hundred thousand pills they catch probably 10 to god knows how many more make it through - cost of doing business, and if we were snagging so many of the shipments from Europe then the flow would stop as itcould be a loss of money to do it ...

Peace!

//p
 
Post 9/11 then i agree that pills would have been coming through no problem, but with American goverment screwing all the Americans right in America they have put some new stuff into ALL the American airports which basically invade your rights but there is noting that can be done about it, thats why i said i dont think its done anymore.

These scanners can see RIGHT through a suitcase and see every part of its inside and can see if it has ANY drugs in it! Was in a 9/11 show i was watching about how this invades your privacy etc, and they also have a device that basically is an xray machine that can see right through you like an xray and can see if you have any hidden packages on your body.

An easy tell o American made pills is off course when they have Meth in them, and when the same pill is released in 12 different colours at the same time.

What pills did you take that where seen in Europe?

I know there was copycat pink heart-shaped pills in America after the ones in Ireland and the rest of Europe! The ones in america had some red specks in there too, was weak and had a little meth in there but not alot.

Ahh screw it, i think i will just stick to my favourite love instead of pills, heres a picture for you - http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=39750&limit=recent

TheSimpsons
 
Yeah, that's it, America has now become TOTALLY IMPENATRABLE to the smuggling of drugs from other countries. And I was talking specifically about the country also known as the USA, just to be clear so you don't think I am talking about Mexico or the jungles of South America or something.. .. this silly war has been going on for ages ... it originally started small but honestly, you actually think that having yer luggage scanned by customs is the only way this stuff gets in? For every huge bust the DEA makes at JSK Customs I would say a couple dozen more of the same size make it in by one way or another - shit, if you have a safe house and you were involvedwith some massive pill smuggling operation you could just use the US mail - and don't tell me they can catch EVERY PACKAGE that has drugs becuase I speak from recent experience. Then there is the Bahamas or Virgin Islands ... it's damn easy to get the stuff on land there, and they constantly run these little 2 night/3 day pleasure cruises from the huge new Carnival Lines port right here off Florida, and again, speaking from experience, when asked if you have anything to declare upon re-entering the US you simply say "nope" and if you don't look like yer smuggling 2 bags, each full of pressed pills, it seems that searched are VERY few and far between - some time after 9/11 I came back with some fine Cuban cigars and bought some nice duty-free alcohol on the ship, and of course I bought 2 pharmacies totally out of all the OTC Codeine products they had (CWE, turned out to be a big waste of money!) .. I didn't declare any of that and the lady simply said "ok" gave me a sticker to walk out to the long-term parking and away I went ... you think that smugglers don't know about these things? When you make your entire living by smuggling ecstasy pills from Europe to the US where they can be sold for an INSANE markup, you gotta be creative, trust me, the big shipments are not the ones that are being walked through customs after a smugglers gets offa flight from some place in Europe ..

Hell, you seen the shipping ports in California and Texas? I know the one in California handles something like a few million cargo containers a year and customs gets to inspect like less then 1% of them ...

Think about all the ways that we (in the US) gets products that were made outside this country ... well, if you ponder that it should be clear that EUROPE IS STILL SENDING A LOT OF PRESSED TABS TO THE US!

And even neater then the body X-Ray is the little thing you stand in, it gives you a nice blast of cool air, and the air particles are analysed for things like explosives and to some extent drugs I imagine ... for extra fun, make sure you have nothing illegal on you, get to the airport rather early, and before you go through the air blast thing spend some time playing with some of those emergency nitroglycerin pills you see people carrying around in the littlee mergency metal tube necklaces ... supose one of those little pills accidently were to be crushed and you had residure all over ... that is a sure-fire way to end up killing those evetra few hours you arrived early!

And look, meth doesn't mean that the MDMA was made in ANY of the Americas continents, but it's the folk up in Canada that know you can get away with half the good stuff and a little meth to boost it all up - way more money to be made if you do that ...

BTW, that "half ounce" of "pure MDMA" in your picture looks like someone was wanting to make large volume and didn't care about quality.. I would give that a few good hard washes - you may end up losing a fair amlunt, but your end product should be totally white when crushed and have no real odor.. simply based on the color of that I would definitly say that is not pure - though I am sure there is some MDMA (or something along those lines) in that baggie there is also the sign of some sloppy chemistry ... but really, lets just end this ...

Can we agree that Canada has stepped up and is a HUGE suppliers of pills into the USA? Can we agree that the MDMA/MDA/MDEA/whatever is comming from super labs in places like Israel? Can we agree that your greedy tablet makers cut their shit with methamphetamine? Can we agree that said meth could be comming the place the MDxx was made, or hell, it was even purchased as close as Mexico?

I think we can agree on that, or agree to disagree ... if you want to have a more specific discussion then send me a PM, this thread is getting off topic...

//p

TheSimpsons said:
Post 9/11 then i agree that pills would have been coming through no problem, but with American goverment screwing all the Americans right in America they have put some new stuff into ALL the American airports which basically invade your rights but there is noting that can be done about it, thats why i said i dont think its done anymore.

These scanners can see RIGHT through a suitcase and see every part of its inside and can see if it has ANY drugs in it! Was in a 9/11 show i was watching about how this invades your privacy etc, and they also have a device that basically is an xray machine that can see right through you like an xray and can see if you have any hidden packages on your body.

An easy tell o American made pills is off course when they have Meth in them, and when the same pill is released in 12 different colours at the same time.

What pills did you take that where seen in Europe?

I know there was copycat pink heart-shaped pills in America after the ones in Ireland and the rest of Europe! The ones in america had some red specks in there too, was weak and had a little meth in there but not alot.

Ahh screw it, i think i will just stick to my favourite love instead of pills, heres a picture for you - http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=39750&limit=recent

TheSimpsons
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Na we can agree on whatever we feel is right, we can end this now buddy :)

But like you said, - ''When you make your entire living by smuggling ecstasy pills from Europe to the US where they can be sold for an INSANE markup''

Wouldnt it be easier to smuggle the actual MDMA from Europe and then make and press the pills there? Would make the dealers even more money! Thats what i believe is happening to be fully honest. - The big guys in America are buying their MDMA from Europe, they are then pressing them into pills and making a huge percentage doing that. Ah well, we can agree to disagree, but i do believe that some pills are being imported from Europe, just not even nearly on the scale it once was!

Now as for my MDMA, yeah it does need a little wash but the surprizing thing is that this is more potent than ANY clear MDMA i have EVER taken which is weird but there ya go, i would put purity of this at 85% as i doubt a little discolour would drop it any more + its strength is telling me otherwise and it was discussed in the europe section before.

Also ALL my MDMA even the crystal clear stuff has ALWAYS had a smell to it and i do mean ALWAYS!
 
If I am not mistaken the entire idea behind this thread was that:

We are now seeing a large percent, but not all, of the pressed tabs sold as "ecstasy" coming in from Canada, the MDMA is coming from places overseas.

But does that mean that suddenly finding a tab that was made/pressed in Europe on the US market is rare as finding genuine 1943 copper penny in circulation? No, not at all.. just because the Canadian pressing operations are becoming one of the largest sources for pills on the US market, it certainly does NOT mean that the over-seas operations have conceded?

I can just imagine that .. "Ok, looks like those Canadians have stepped up, took initiative, and are now about to meet the demand of the US ecstasy consumers needs, what a relief, we can finally cut our production back, stop with all the smuggling, ruining the lives of these poor people that do get busted, and perhaps take the extra time afforded to us to start families, or for those of us that have families, we can spend time with our kids. Thank god for those Canadians, they trumped us with their blazing ingenuity, lets respect that! ... Hans, Frank, you two go ahead and lets shut down those last 4 reactions, lets dispose of all these chemicals in the most environmentally friendly way and hell, check and see what a 3-neck 250liter boiling flask is going for on eBay? Oh, might as well toss those Thermowell heating cans up there too! Now, it's off to Armin's place to play some X-Box!"

Is it on the same scale as what was going around back in the mid to late '90s and even into the new century? Honestly, just because there is evidence that Canada may be producing that estimated 52-percent of all the pressed tablets that come into the US, is that evidence that there are LESS pills coming in from overseas? Perhaps - then again, it may simply mean we have a lot more ecstasy being consumed today then we did 6 years ago or so ..

But I will give you kudos for giving me something to debate about as I roll at 6:23am EST and no one is online ...

As for arguing about the purity of your "pure MDMA" you posted images of all over the gallery, ya know what, all I can say is "whatever blows yer skirt up" .. if you got the best high of your life off some yellowish "pure" that has that lovely scent of un-reacted chemicals and it was better then the clear/pure white stuff then go with what makes you happy ...

In closing. I think for the most part we ended up agreeing with some aspects but not others, then again, going over to Armin's place to play some X-Box sounds fun! .. wait, I think that was just a conversation I imagined ...

Still, at least it stayed fairly decent discussion ...

//p
 
PhreeX said:
If I am not mistaken the entire idea behind this thread was that:

We are now seeing a large percent, but not all, of the pressed tabs sold as "ecstasy" coming in from Canada, the MDMA is coming from places overseas.

But does that mean that suddenly finding a tab that was made/pressed in Europe on the US market is rare as finding genuine 1943 copper penny in circulation? No, not at all.. just because the Canadian pressing operations are becoming one of the largest sources for pills on the US market, it certainly does NOT mean that the over-seas operations have conceded?

I can just imagine that .. "Ok, looks like those Canadians have stepped up, took initiative, and are now about to meet the demand of the US ecstasy consumers needs, what a relief, we can finally cut our production back, stop with all the smuggling, ruining the lives of these poor people that do get busted, and perhaps take the extra time afforded to us to start families, or for those of us that have families, we can spend time with our kids. Thank god for those Canadians, they trumped us with their blazing ingenuity, lets respect that! ... Hans, Frank, you two go ahead and lets shut down those last 4 reactions, lets dispose of all these chemicals in the most environmentally friendly way and hell, check and see what a 3-neck 250liter boiling flask is going for on eBay? Oh, might as well toss those Thermowell heating cans up there too! Now, it's off to Armin's place to play some X-Box!"

Is it on the same scale as what was going around back in the mid to late '90s and even into the new century? Honestly, just because there is evidence that Canada may be producing that estimated 52-percent of all the pressed tablets that come into the US, is that evidence that there are LESS pills coming in from overseas? Perhaps - then again, it may simply mean we have a lot more ecstasy being consumed today then we did 6 years ago or so ..

But I will give you kudos for giving me something to debate about as I roll at 6:23am EST and no one is online ...

As for arguing about the purity of your "pure MDMA" you posted images of all over the gallery, ya know what, all I can say is "whatever blows yer skirt up" .. if you got the best high of your life off some yellowish "pure" that has that lovely scent of un-reacted chemicals and it was better then the clear/pure white stuff then go with what makes you happy ...

In closing. I think for the most part we ended up agreeing with some aspects but not others, then again, going over to Armin's place to play some X-Box sounds fun! .. wait, I think that was just a conversation I imagined ...

Still, at least it stayed fairly decent discussion ...

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I love you, How about a Hug??? :):):)

Yeah i enjoyed this debate too, but im flying on this MDMA right now, so if your heading to get hammered to then enjoy it buddy!

Look forward to the next Debate!
 
ive noticed that asians have been producing, distributing alot of MDMA in the toronto region, and it seems to me asian organized crime has delved into the synthetic drug industry with mdma. no surprise pills are coming from bc then they have a huge asian population.
 
The asians produce a lot of meth (yaba pills) and probably some MDMA too. West-Europe produces MDMA especially in the Netherlands, Eastern-Europe produces a lot of MDMA and meth, etc..
They ship the pure meth and MDMA to Canada or the USA(meth's already there) and there they press those shitty pills.

Big organisations are at work.. And they're cheap ass greedy bastards if I hear how much so called "ecstasy" is fucked up cut pills with anything that makes some MDMA last a little longer.
 
TheSimpsons said:
NO pills in America come from Europe anymore, it costs far to much to import.

They just make them in America now, and what a bad job they are doing too...
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dont lie to yourself

Ill bet that alot of the good rolls that run cheap here in the USA are from Europe
 
Like i said pin, yes some pills are getting imported, but not alot and most are getting made there.

When was the last time you seen pills getting reported on over at pillreports that came from Europe? If they came from europe then they would be the same as ours, not all but most.

But no its the same pills, with a litle to alot of meth in them (some have just MDMA in them) but come in about 20 different colours.

Some american chemists are cooking up some good pills like the rolexs that where in chicago recently, just because some pills are good doesent mean they are coming from Europe.

You will see pills on pillreports Europe that are EVERYWHERE around europe, not just 1 place.

The thing i dont understand is why do Americans get SOOOOO defensive when they hear people say that they're pills are getting pressed in America?
 
Because they feel they are not gettin ght the TURE "ecstasy" that all those original rollers in Holland have been on ... god, I get sick when I hear kids talking about the "old skool wafers" that were around back in the mid '90s ...

Gotta deal with it, in America most pills are being presed in Canada and yes, meth is being added tro them (more meth + less MDMA = more profit and kids still blow up) ... sorry, there is no "PLUR" in the pill manufacturing business, it's all about the $$$

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TheSimpsons said:
The thing i dont understand is why do Americans get SOOOOO defensive when they hear people say that they're pills are getting pressed in America?
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PhreeX said:
Because they feel they are not gettin ght the TURE "ecstasy" that all those original rollers in Holland have been on ... god, I get sick when I hear kids talking about the "old skool wafers" that were around back in the mid '90s ...

Gotta deal with it, in America most pills are being presed in Canada and yes, meth is being added tro them (more meth + less MDMA = more profit and kids still blow up) ... sorry, there is no "PLUR" in the pill manufacturing business, it's all about the $$$

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Theres my buddy back, was waiting for you to respond :)

TheSimpsons
 
TheSimpsons said:
Theres my buddy back, was waiting for you to respond :)

TheSimpsons
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Sorry, I just couldn't stay away from it... that's why I quit my job as a moderator and left this site, it was 50% dealing with idiots and 50% finding interesting threads like this one and having to CONSTANTLY check in to see what the latest news it ....

I am still around, I lurk mostly but good lord, if I replied to every interesting thread or got into all the debates I could, then I would literally just be on bluelight 24/7 ..

Now back to FreeBSD configuration as my server must be online ASAP ..

//p
 
TheSimpsons said:
Now as for my MDMA, yeah it does need a little wash but the surprizing thing is that this is more potent than ANY clear MDMA i have EVER taken which is weird but there ya go, i would put purity of this at 85% as i doubt a little discolour would drop it any more + its strength is telling me otherwise and it was discussed in the europe section before.
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I'd say that MDMA you have is 70-80% at best, have you wondered why there is more MDMA going around in the UK than pills?

It's because people decided to stop pressing pills with MDMA in and sell the MDMA as MDMA meaning more profits... was the MDMA that they were making in large scale batches for pills really good? No most of the time it would have been 80% pure MDMA at best with a few very rare exceptions.

The reason why you think the MDMA you have is good is because of the impurities and the MDMA, really clean MDMA i.e. 90% + pure would not fuck you up (in a normal dose) it would however feel very nice.

The quality of MDMA in the UK thats sold unpressed has dropped drastically in the past 5 years, from being what was made as small scale e.g. kilogram batches to what is now probably made 100 kilogram at a time batches and was what they used to press into pills, were pills ever as good as what used to be sold as MDMA, no.

Have pills or good pills generally disappeared from the market, yes. Is the MDMA that is being sold at a continually lowered price the MDMA they used to sell for very cheap and have to press, yes!
 
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