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Gurus - do/did you have one, are you one? in honour of Daff

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I recently had a realisation. I feel like I've become a bit of a rave scene guru to a friend of mine. Now I'm not trying to big note myself here. Compared to most bluelighters I'm only modestly experienced and soft when it comes to drug use but I've researched the substances, know a bit of the chemistry and have had the good fortune to have been blessed with some very knowledgable guides in my time.

I tend to give little HM lectures at events and a couple of months ago I met a young guy who was not having a good time, thinking it was a weak pill. Smiley and I decided to look after him after discovering that he'd gotten into it quite quickly and after seeing Human Traffic. So we showed him a few tricks, lifted his spirits and gave him some info and advice on how to keep the magic and avoid comedowns. Since then we've met at other events and invited him back to recover at mine at the last one.

He dropped by the next afternoon (at my invite) and brought a girl from the last party. She's been raving for quite some time but has always been put off the drugs from the sight of the numerous munted people at the events she's gone to. They end up staying for dinner and by the end of the night, what I've told her about the drugs, experiences, testing, bluelight and reading a trip report of mine, she decided she wants to try it. The only problem was that she doesn't want to do it at an event, home, or friends place (dosen't trust them enough). So I offer to hold a small party sometime and she jumps at the suggestion.

Now I'm flattered that she trusts me this much for such an experience but I only met her that night. I've introduced people to the scene before but friends that I've known for years. This is on a different level. I feel like I'm in an incredibly responsible position, changing the views of people about drugs and the scene. I've always wanted to make people think a bit about their decisions with the chems but I'm supprised at just how much I'm doing that at the moment. Even friends who don't touch anything now get engrossed in some of my drug addled stories.

I feel like a transition has happened in my life while I didn't even know about it and I can put it down to the influence of the one person in my life who I consider to be my guru, Daff. I met daff a few years ago. I'd been raving for a while but never tried anything. In the time I've known him, especially early on, he showed me so many ways to look at the world that I'd never thought of. He advocated the use of drugs as a tool for discovery but never pushed them or even did them near me. He influenced the way I thought and looked at the world which in turn opened my mind more to the thought of drugs. I only hope I can emulate his superb example.

So my question is, have any of you taken anyone under your wing? Provided guidance beyond a few roll tricks and a spliff at a recovery? When you were younger, possibly looking for all the answers, did someone look after you, opened your mind to new possibilities, or perhaps you're a mentor or student at this very moment? How much did it effect you and your outlook, and would you have ended up where you are if you never met them? If you didn't do you think you would have benefited from such a relationship and how would it have effected you?

I want to know your stories, so lets have 'em

Cuddles (plur guru) :)
 
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Excelent idea for a thread! However at 2:00am I don't have the brain power to compose the reply I want to (this post is the result of a number of drafts that just didn't work)... ;)

I'll post again another time when I can figure out how to say what I'm trying to say... :)
 
I my experience the majority of people at a party to not want a serious drug discussion, although I usually met 1 guy per party (never a girl) who wants a serious talk about drugs, but even I get bored of serious conversation after 20 minutes, so I print out (at the dole office) a few hundred small flyers with internet address, dancesafe, erowid, pillreport, bluelight, mdma.net, 5htp sites, and give people I met through out the night a flyer and tell them to read it tomorrow. Most people are really happy, espeically the candy ravers, but I do find that most mario's throw them on the ground, not that I talk to 'heros' much at parties anyway. The few asians I have talked to at parties were candy rave asians with aussie accents and they were very happy with a flyer, but I just cannot connect with most other asians (with asian accents) at events - most of them seem switched off and bored, and do not seem communicative at all. I guess each to their own.

I started printing out these flyers because I was spending huge amounts of time finding a pen (easy in clubs, but hard at raves) and trying to write with a shaking hand (my hands shake drugs, especially speed, but even coffee does it) and write down the internet address, or the worst is Munted people trying to write the internet address's into their phone book while peaking which took way too long, especially when I am on speed, and they are pilling hard !
 
^^^ Yeah, I've started printing out internet addies too but I keep them really small, half the size of a buisness card. This way they're easilly slipped into a pocket.

The scene in Brisbane seems quite different to what you describe Dr. Beat. I've never had a problem with the international crowd, it's great trying to communicate through a language barrier when pilling!

But I want to know about that one person who influenced you or that you've influenced the most in the scene.

Cuddles :)
 
Good thread! Keep up the good fight! Im not really a guru (even if it does say that on my occupation in my profile), i just like to set people straight on drugs, whether it be HR advice about pharmacological contraindictions or getting people to examine the social context of drugs and the social construction of drugs as a problem. I've educated ignorant ravers who have no idea what their putting into their bodies and what it's doing but i've also educated highly intelligent uni students to question the way in which they view drugs and strategies to deal with the the 'problem'
Quite simply we need thousands more people like you ripping down the layers of bullshit surrounding this important social phenomenon and getting people with power to agree and consult with us in the best way to "deal' with not solve the problems of the drug issue
 
Yeah, I have few people under my wing... just telling them my advice based both on my BOTH bad and good experiences, and giving them advice how to avoid the bad experiences that I learnt the hard way. I often try to tell people to just some few things at home and small gatherings and stuff, not just at "raves/events/pubs" and often they will learn more "self discovering" thing....and often have positive experiences with different outlook towards life and stuff, because when I was younger, I just went into the drug sence too hard and fast, I just tell people my bad experiences to keep them "open minded" that not all drugs are good and safe.

Keep them well informed, but I have a problem that I learnt my lesson that I try to aviod about dosages, because I have no idea of their past experiences, mind set, moods, etc etc There's been few times I personally thought I gave right advice about few substances dosages but they ended up with bad experience that I "thought" it was a low dosage based on my experience, but I was wrong.... often try to tell them start small to build up over time, but the problem I face is I get too over zealous, just go too far and hard too quickly....
 
I don’t feel that anyone should feel bad for introducing anyone to the scene as long as the right attitudes and values are put on the drugs. I myself didn’t know anyone ( still very few) but after doing about 2 months of research on the internet I made my informed (thanks guys) decision to drop. As long as there is curiosity people will find their way as i did, be it better under your wing than the wing of someone who abuses it.

Nice work Beat and Cuddles it took me a while to find the right sites.
 
^^ groovey guru.
i have turned to BT, p_d, baby doc and maybe some others around here for advice occassionally and value it beyond their imagination. i've never had the opportunity to properly thank them, but i hope they know how i feel.
 
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Since I was 15 I had always been interested in drugs. I had read and researched for about 3/4 years before actually partaking in an altered state of mind involving drugs. Looking back on it now things could have ended quite tragically, so I respect it would have been excellent to have a guru rave/drug/spritual... to help guide me. There are people I look up to, and I believe books like Pihkal and Tihkal saved me from ignorance when it comes to drugs and responsible ingestion.

I read Pihkal and Tihkal when I was 19/20 yo.
 
all right cuddlefish, I will tell this story, what I told you and you thought I should post what i told you cuddles.... here you go.... here's my story:

Maybe one person who influnced my life a lot based on drugs and stuff... I will call him "G", G is over 35-40 years old, and he's a old school, been involved with homeless, drug scence from the 70's to 80's to early 90's been involed in so many crime groups that he doesnt "belongs to" he is just simply a grower trying to make ends meet for his family, moved from many christan types of cults to cults, and now he's a devotee christan church goer but very in deeply in love with growing the "medical herb" which he calls marijuana, but he's in a massive pain on massive doses of narcotics from the doctor but he's trapped in the world of addiction to his narcotics that his doctor orginally gave him for in the first place, but he wants and prefers to use marijuana but the addiction to naroctics is overpowering him , he's a very very good friend of mine even only chatted to him thru emails and stuff from other forums and stuff last 2 years, and finally meet him in person this year.... and he's a great man, nowdays I meet his family on weekly basis and we go out on day tours and trips for a day once a month or so.... even he's family man, over 30-40 years old, and he always gives me great advice and he has a big part in my life in some ways, especially this year when I meet him, I learnt so much from him. Its a funny feeling because he's been like a "father" to me that I never had, and he knows where I am coming from, even he's never been to raves or "tasted" our generation of drugs, but he's a old timer, in the world of speed, LSD, shrooms, heroin and the good old days of endless hashish of the 70's and 80's. (so he calls these years)

He's not into the "rave/nightclubbing" I mean he's a family man, too old, very conservative apart from his open minded views on drugs and cannabis and opiates specially since he is a big lover of growing opium poppy just for the sake of the flowers not the "substances inside the opium pod". etc etc but grew up very rough and taught me a lot of things.... but I learnt a lot about "life/bible/god issues" and opened my eyes to the world of drugs thats why I started to distant myself from people who hanged around with dealers around the clock, as everything what G told me, and I am starting to argee with him, its a very strange disillusioned underground world, and you have no sense of belonging.

And everyone is using each other to get what each other wants for their own personal gain either both drugs or the $$$ side of it. Its all the same, drugs and money both are like a drug, we need money like a drug to live, and drugs is everywhere...........

thats my story.

Cheers, Urbie %)
 
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