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Groups of Friends and Growing Up

skudge

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In my life I have been very lucky like many others on here to have a great number of mates over the last few years. I am now 34 and have a girlfriend that i live with now for over 5 years.

Trouble is I seem to have outgrown all my mates. Obviously my GL is the most important thing in my life now and I love here dearly but whenever I see my friends now (nearly all male) I have virtually no connection with them, its almost as if they have different agendas and lives. They still often invite me down and sometime recipricate but more and more I am feeling that we cant keep that magic going. We used to be very very close mates. I know that they all hang around a bit together, but as the slightly older one of the group I can see us drifting apart

Its not like we have had a big row or anything far from it. I guess times change, and I am now reluctant to start seeing them all like I used to like the good old days.

Post here really is to see has anyone else experienced this. I think just life moves on, but when a group of people meant so much to you you feel gutted that its not as strong as it once was.

Can anyone relate? Is this just a factor of growing up ?
 
Thanks for the reply. I almost think in life now you move on with your circumstances. If we have kids in say 5 years time I suspect that most oof our close friends will have kids or want them if you see what I mean. Maybe they or I will become more relevant in the future. :)
 
I have gone through this already and I am 24 but I am happily married with 2 kids and most of my old mates are still single and partying, I found you make new friends as you mature I now have the same amount of mates as before they just have kids or are of a similar maturity level. So don't stress and truly if you have no real connection your just better to walk away because until they are at the same place in their lives it can't be saved or resumed.
 
skudge, a relationship involves (at least) two people. what's the common factor in all your relationships?

if you feel they're drifting and you want to do something about it, do something about it. if you don't, maybe there's a lesson there too...

alasdair
 
Yes, this happens most of the time. I'm only 21 but I've gone through plenty of friends. Things are awesome at the time, when you really relate, you have fun together, etc. But then you grow apart. You mature at different rates. You find other people to hang out with. You do other things. Major life changes (moving in with partner, marriage, having kids, graduating college, moving away from home, etc.) are big things and often when friends grow apart (but then you usually/sometimes get new friends).
I really bonded with these two girls during high school. Even though we all went to different college/universities, we stayed in touch. We were best friends for like five years. But for the past year, things changed. I graduated from college and got a job (they are still in school). I have a serious boyfriend (neither has dated anyone for over a month or two). They still go "home" to their parents regularly (I have my own apartment). Different priorities in life. Things change.
 
In my life I have been very lucky like many others on here to have a great number of mates over the last few years. I am now 34 and have a girlfriend that i live with now for over 5 years.

Trouble is I seem to have outgrown all my mates. Obviously my GL is the most important thing in my life now and I love here dearly but whenever I see my friends now (nearly all male) I have virtually no connection with them, its almost as if they have different agendas and lives. They still often invite me down and sometime recipricate but more and more I am feeling that we cant keep that magic going. We used to be very very close mates. I know that they all hang around a bit together, but as the slightly older one of the group I can see us drifting apart

Its not like we have had a big row or anything far from it. I guess times change, and I am now reluctant to start seeing them all like I used to like the good old days.

Post here really is to see has anyone else experienced this. I think just life moves on, but when a group of people meant so much to you you feel gutted that its not as strong as it once was.

Can anyone relate? Is this just a factor of growing up ?

I can completely relate. I have four close friends from high school, and we all grew up in a smallish city together. These are the same friends with whom I shared all of those major, formative life experiences. Drugs, girls, fights, drugs, loss of loved ones. Everything. Around the same time (early 20s) we all moved to the same bigger city - Not together, but our life trajectories all sort of led us in the same spot. I won't bore you with all the details, but fast-forward to today, and we're all 31 and all at slightly different places in life. Our group of 4 has expanded to an outer/inner circle of about 9-10 people.

I'll start by saying that it's not easy, and the older you get, the harder it becomes. For example, last weekend I babysat my friend's 1-year-old son while they went to a hockey game. They came back after and had a few beers, while we quietly chatted as the baby slept soundly in the next room. Take it or leave it, that example typifies my average interaction with my 30-something friends these days. For another friend, I organize a volleyball team and we play together. For another, we do a fishing trip every year. Between all of this, I make an effort to get the group together whenever possible. I organize bbqs, sports fundraisers, and we help each other out when needed. We all have our individual uses.

The problem, I think you'll find, is that as people get older, the more they feel that they need an excuse to get together. It's not enough to say, "It's Friday night, motherfucker!" anymore. People need a reason. They need notice. They need structure. They need finger foods and ice to put in their drinks. A friendly visit doesn't end with my drunk ass passed out on the couch. A friendly visit these days, ends a couple hours after it starts. This is something I've learned to adapt to, and I attribute it to an adult need for structure and control, mixed with certain responsibilities.

I guess what I'm saying is that it takes effort and compromise. You're always going to have that dickhead of a friend who refuses to do anything but the exact thing that they want to do, and nothing else will make them happy.. We have one of those. We don't see him very often. But if you want to keep lifetime friendships, everyone needs to be moving forward and willing to meet in the middle from time to time. I find the best way to ensure this, is to start the ball rolling. Be the guy who puts the olive branch out. Sometimes being a good friend means doing things that you might not necessarily want to do, or might not come naturally at first. I have the choice. Instead of spending my Friday night babysitting my friend's kid, I could go out cruising and find some people my age who have more personal freedom - or I could be a fair-weather friend and just be around when it's convenient for me. I choose to make certain sacrifices in order to maintain my relationships. And my friend with the kid? He'll ditch the family and come out partying from time to time. It's a give and take.

But you seem conflicted. You seem to value your relationships highly, but for some unknown reason are losing interest in maintaining them. To answer your question, 'no' I don't believe that's a factor of growing up. Obviously we can't force you to be interested in your friends, but like I said, maintaining any relationship means picking up the phone or signing into Facebook. Sure, it's not like when you're 19, had a superhero metabolism, and every night was an adventure. You actually have to put the effort in, think about things you'd all enjoy, and make them happen. I don't agree with what neoblazing said. I don't agree that being in a different life situation means it's time to dump your friends to find more convenient ones. I dislike people who do this. Having a partner and children is incredibly important, but it guts me when I see one of those people who falls off the face of the earth the minute they get into a family situation, as if their long-time friends were just a bunch of faceless cameo roles, leading up to the final act, featuring wedding rings and diapers. Those people suck. Don't be one of those people.
 
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Yeah, this is normal. I had 3 awesome girlfriends. One got married and had a kid, the other is a loner like me and the other moved to Tampa. We basically grew apart. As a female, I don't want kids atm and really find talking about kids boring, but I don't want to be an ass and tell my friend "I don't care if little johnny made his first poo. Let's have some fun!" lol We also used to go out to bars/clubs all the time, and no mommy is up for that anymore. I would be happy having dinner, but most of the girls I know want to be home by 8pm or something to put their kids to bed. It really sucks. I'm in a permanent single mode, and most of my friends have moved on to families. I miss them a lot, but this happens to everyone that I've spoken with.

I think you need that "planner" like Cyc to keep the friendship group. Our "planner" was the girl who moved to Tampa, and after that the group fell apart. A planner can keep the group together for ages.
 
I think you need that "planner" like Cyc to keep the friendship group. Our "planner" was the girl who moved to Tampa, and after that the group fell apart. A planner can keep the group together for ages.

Firstly thanks for all the comments- But surely if you need a planner so to speak then its all pretty much gone. I must think my next set of mates are going to be newlyweds and people expecting. Listen I aint any problem with this at all but I think keeping something artificially there is not working - certainly for me.

I have gone through this already and I am 24 but I am happily married with 2 kids and most of my old mates are still single and partying, I found you make new friends as you mature I now have the same amount of mates as before they just have kids or are of a similar maturity level. So don't stress and truly if you have no real connection your just better to walk away because until they are at the same place in their lives it can't be saved or resumed.

I agree with this most. I just think it can be resumed but at another time....Perhaps. The best person to ask is someone who has been through it. Maybe our parents. Most of the my parents friends and or course as there older there arent as many from a quick think arent the same people they knew when they were 20-30-40-50 and this is what i mean.

How about your parents. Are the people that they hung about with still there mates.

:)
 
Each time I return to my hometown and see the old group I feel more distant, yes. I think there's some good advice in this thread about how to keep things together if that's what you want, though.

I remember going over a few studies about close friends in a sociology/stats class. Different studies find different results, but, in general, indications are that changes in Western culture since the 1970s may increasingly underlie the factors involved in our losing close friends as we get older. People have always grown up and grown apart, so something else must have changed. It's speculated, therefore, that the culture has changed. Results generally point to us having the same or more weak ties (associates, not friends) as in the past but fewer non-spousal or non-familial strong social ties (those we can confide in or discuss "important matters" with or rely on for support [esp. financial]). What are those differences in culture? I don't know for sure. I think there's more pressure today than in the past to get an education and career for one, and pursuing either of these leads to moving away and changing our personalities (and all the other difficulties in making new close friends already covered in this thread).

On another level, though, we are more social today than ever (even as we get older). Online social networking encourages making "connections" with people, but it's debatable whether this is the same as making friends through shared physical activity or interaction through other mediums (like telephone conversation). We "poke" each other, farm each others' virtual crops, secretly and voyeuristically monitor digital photos, make inane comments on each others' trifling status updates, and interact in other virtual ways conceived and engineered to be the same as being friends by Mark Zuckerberg -- a socially awkward, sociopathically ambitious, backstabbing nerd -- all while we get updated on our fantasy football teams. The social interfaces we choose to use are becoming increasingly fragmented, distracted, deluded, and impoverished. Perhaps there's something about the way they structure interaction that tends to deter our forging deeper commitments to one another. Someone wanting to actually have a physical conversation is suddenly felt a burden to all the other connecting and professional "networking" (is there anything more off-putting than this modern necessity?) we have to do. We use social media to maintain the illusion of connection and so we don't see when we begin to drift apart. Then when we get together physically we're surprised to find we're nonplussed and alienated. I don't mean to come off as a Luddite. Online interactions have the capacity to be richer, even superior, to traditional social interactions in other important ways (like this thread, for instance). I'm just not sure the general population is remotely close to making the most of them (or knows how to).
 
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basically over time your needs no longer overlap with others they way they used to and you have to find new ways of developing the friendship. not sharing a hobby in common is the death knell for many a friendship.

you need common ground tho some people will always keep you interested.

for me the problem lies with groups of friends. people i am friends with in a one on one format tend to sustain longer than groups that are affiliated in my experience.
 
The same thing happened to me. Once i hit my mid 20's i had lost contact with just about every friend i had back in high school. It was like we where just trying to pretend to still be the same people that we where when we had all changed. So i really can't handle running into many old friends unless there is alot of drinks or drugs involved and even then it's boring.

It's happened to almost everyone i know so i think just about everyone goes through this.
 
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