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Opioids Got to move on- I NEED HELP DESPERATELY

EatClenTrenHard said:
I have a buddy who quit his dope addiction with suboxone, took it for 30 days at 2mg and suffered withdrawawls for almsot 2 months

I myself was on suboxone for 5 months at 1-4mg, and i had withdrawals for almost 3 months, thought it was hard, it wasn't as bad as methadone that's for sure...

My guess is that 1 month of minor minor withdrawals would come from 1-2mg of suboxone for a month... Would think it would be kidding yourself to believe otherwise. SOME people are lucky, but after asking many many people and reading many many reports, 2 weeks of ANY opiate is going to cause some discomfort, to think a month of suboxone will be withdrawal free sounds like a bet i wouldnt want to place, granted it might not be all that bad if you stay at a low enough dose.

I think a short suboxone taper might help, but if it seems impossible just stay on 1-2mg for until you get your shit straight, then plan for a month of feeling like crap.
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Well, I've been using heroin for 17 years, originally went on Suboxone 9 years ago, and personally know over a dozen people who have used it and gotten off of it.

For most people it lasts 3-5 weeks until you're pretty much 90% better. Of course, if you don't take care of yourself and you're a huge baby, you can convince yourself you're sick forever.

A lot of it has to do with your history with opiate dependence...to say around a month I believe is accurate. If you're anxious and socially awkward to begin with, and you've self-medicated with drugs for years, you can't blame everything on "PAWS" when you stop...

I'll also say, I was on 95 mgs of methadone for 3 years, and I was 90% better in three weeks, which is the case with a lot of people who taper from that too...
 
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I was a chronic relapser, too, and the only way out for me was to go on maintanence. Finished my first Masters, going for a second now. The second would have been impossible without the help of suboxone.

There is no way to balance the psychological havoc that a habit demands with the intellectual demands of a Masters program. Trust me! I did one on maintanence, and one without. Earning a Masters, and excelling in your grad program are two vastly different experiences. You know which one you'll have if you continue with the oxy.

I can only speak for suboxone as a maintaince drug since I never tried methadone. For grad school, methadone may prove to be difficult, since many methadone programs require daily dosing on site for at least a few weeks to develop stability and show commitment. Suboxone, on the other hand, worked well for my lifestyle because I had the privacy of a doctor's office and a monthly supply to pick up at the pharmacy, just like any other medication.

Suboxone gave me the freedom to focus on what my real priorities are--my oxy habit just appropriated all of that ambition.
 
I started taking percocet a year ago. I am not an addict, however, I am dependent. That being said, I don't think many people know that there is a difference in the two.

I take, on average, 30mg of percocet for about 2 weeks out of the month. That has been the dose I've been taking for 3 months now. For the past 3 months I have also been taking DXM regularly... So I am guessing that the DXM has something to do with that. I also take half a bottle of antacids a day - don't know if that has any play (if you can attest to this - please do.)

I have NEVER in the past year thought about, considered, attempted to buy or do or switch to, or try heroin. I know for a fact that I would never resort to it &I have no desire to ever feel that strong of an opiate. I like opiates, clearly, but heroin does not interest me or anything.

I feel the aftermaths after stopping opiates after a 2 week binge - but I almost get tired of the buzz and enjoy being clear minded for a bit. That being said, I also know in the back of my mind that I will enjoy them again.

I never over-spend, I always make sure all of my bills are paid before buying them. I also have easy access to them.

Maybe I am one of the few and far between, but opiates/percocet has never worried me in the sense of ruining my life. Maybe it's because 30mg isn't alot? (I don't really know what 'alot' is considered to be...)

Just maintain control of yourself. If you start to notice your tolerance climbing, or you losing control of your money, or becoming angry when you can't medicate - then plan your taper plan &knock it the fuck off?

Does anybody else feel this way? Or am I crazy? ;)
 
... I think you will be just fine, as I was told that 30mg is practically barely even a proper addiction.

I think you are scaring yourself. Just relax &know that you will be just fine in the end of it all &on top of that - you'll have your masters! :)

Give sub a try, I think after 5 days of a 1mg dose tapered down - you will get along just fine!
 
Hey guys, thank you so much for you responses! I really fucking feel support even though it is the internet. Sorry for replying late as I have been busy with school the entire week. I have decided to withdraw again, and then just not use. Today is day one.

I am scared of Suboxone and Methadone. I mean, a weak oxy withdrawal I can not stand for one day, imagine a longer withdrawal...no thanks. Thing with me is, I love opiates, and I know, that if I ever come across Heroin, I will do it. I need to feel the stronger opiates one day. That is the problem with me. I love the feeling way too much.

Anyway, right now I am thinking of staying. I have up to three or so weeks, before I can quit without paying. After that, I must pay even if I withdraw, so I have until then...I am already qualified and can work in my field, this would just help me land a higher position, which is also influencing my thinking "I have already done it, why bother doing another year?"...you know, that type of junkie rationalization.

When I use my opiates, I HATE being productive. I see it as a waste. I love just enjoying them watching a movie or playing a video-game. It is sort of OCD. If I am high, I will not do anything productive, even if I can out of some weird OCD type principle of wasting the drugs.

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Do you guys think the drugs have caused me to lose some IQ points at all? I mean, I really do feel a lot dumber and my concentration and focus is not what it used to be? Anyone find this with opiates?
Also, once I withdraw and PAWS sets in, will I get dumber? Will the lack of opiates in my system have any sort of effect on my intellect at all?
 
I find that I am cloudy at best during the acute stage of withdrawal, but that I come back quickly. The first thing to return is my cognition. But my memory during the detox period is shoddy. Opiates are not a class of drugs I would consider as having a strong correlation to IQ decreasing over time.

and to the "regular" DXM use post....*sigh*.
 
Ur overthinking/feeling all of this.. just tamper down. U will be ok. If u feel u need to get "high" just take 5mg instead of 30mg. Find a different ego ideal.
 
I've gone to rehab. They told us to go to aa or na, take it truly one day at a time or one second at a time. When u wanna get high wait 5 mins. Then wait longer until it goes away. You gotta really wanna stop. As for w/d your on a pretty low dose. Take some loperamide(immodium) and maybe a benzo. That works for me. You won't need much of either. Good luck!
 
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