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gonna roll with my mom

Trentonian said:
Why is it that most bluelighters are so in love with the drug that they refuse to believe it has negative effects? I know many people who've done E and it hasn't helped them out at all.

E isn't guaranteed to solve lifes problems.

Why do people like you always have to look at the negative sides of E? E has helped me a lot more than anything else could've. Just doing 1 or 2 pills isn't going to affect you negatively. If you abuse it though, thats when the trouble starts.
 
First of all your comparing MDMA to Water... don't do that. Second, if you've only rolled 12 times and 11 were in the first year, then you haven't been rolling for 7 years. Third, having a crush on a family member is wrong. I don't know if you live in Alabama or whatever but where I come from, family members don't look at eachother like that.
 
guys i dont have a crush on my mom.my babe and hers too will also be with us mdma has been a staple in my relasionship with my soulbabe and i just want mom to have the opportunity to see things on a diffrent level of conciousness.to be able to show her how awsome it is to expierience with someone you care more about than yourself,what freedom really is.who i really am, and who she really is, underneath the skin,and all the stereotypes that this plain of conciousness says we are.and yes ravenous we have a test kit.i cant belive all those years we didnt.....of course we were younger and did not give as much of a shit...........plur
 
Trent.. okay smart guy. my use of water was in the form of an analogy not a comparison. where are you from? where i'm from ppl know and have a command of the english language. you're just being an ass hole to be an ass hole - dont do that.

and i'm using 'ass hole' metaphorically just fyi ;)
 
felixdahousekat said:
E is a beautiful thing to be shared, especially with your family. Some folks just won't 'find it' on their own. Have fun and report back. :)

Yeah, it is - but I'd be a bit wary of pushing it on someone. Offering it, suggesting it, sure - but if they have to be talked into doing it, then maybe they shouldn't be doing it. As long as they're really sure that they want to do it, then all's good :)

I think rolling with one's mother could be a really great experience.

But look at the original post - the guy talks about his worries that negative issues might surface. This is certainly possible. MDMA is not some wonder drug that automatically makes everything good. I've seen plenty of people have negative experiences on it, because they started thinking deeply about things that they'd rather supress.

So the question is, how can we help olskoolrollrz deal with the possibility of negativity surfacing? I'm not 100% sure. I would suggest to him that he be prepared for the possibility - maybe work out what he will say if her negative thoughts come through, have a response prepared. I'm not sure what that should be, though....

And do remember that chances are that she WON'T have a negative experience :). It could be the most fantastic bonding experience you two ever have :)

[edit: deleted text posted mistakenly, sorry cxsx]
 
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Trentonian said:
First of all your comparing MDMA to Water... don't do that. Second, if you've only rolled 12 times and 11 were in the first year, then you haven't been rolling for 7 years. Third, having a crush on a family member is wrong. I don't know if you live in Alabama or whatever but where I come from, family members don't look at eachother like that.

We don't look at each other like that in Alabamastan, either. Stop stereotyping.

All this info coming from a person who has an avatar of pills that have been eData tested as adulterated....

Yeah.

/end sarcasm
 
SimOn: you felt the need to point out that i'm not an "experienced roller" which i dont recall having labled myself as such in the first place. so what exactly is your point? are my suggestions to oldskool invalid or something ? god.
 
^^
Fuck, sorry: I mis-read the thread, I thought that the 12 times in 7 years had been posted by olskoolrollrz, not you. The 'experienced roller' was from his first post.

My bad.
 
I'm totally for your idea of using MDMA with your mother and her boyfriend. I think however, it would only be right if you educated them on the drug, maybe let them watch the peter jennings special, and read up a bit on erowid? Trip reports for first times to let them know what to expect etc. would be a good idea. I believe any drug can be used safely as long as you are responsible, and know what you are dealing with. Have fun, be safe, and let us know how it goes.
 
thanx everyone for your input,it wont be too soon that we are doing it,can get regular old beans anytime,but waiting for molly.she comes round every couple months....and yes we have sent her loads of stories to read as well as links to erowid and maps.they are openminded folks already.i know they are gonna love feelin that way.everyone should try it once.....in fact we should put it in the water supply.......peace
 
I don't think it seems to be too bad of an idea... but I sure wouldn't do it. Seems like you dogged her to try it which is stupid. No doubt she'll like it...
 
MDMA is a great drug and using it therapuetically has its benefits. if you think a single use of MDMA will help your mom out, i say go for it. i personally think it's a bit weird that you're introducing your mom to illicit drugs but hey, i don't know what kind of relationship you have with her (it must be fairly good if you can openly talk about and actually engage her interest in drugs).

i hope things work out and please, if you already haven't, let her know about the positives and negatives of the drug before giving it to her. she may be an adult but adults can fall into abuse patterns as well.
 
you got it backwards generation,my mom introduced me to illegal drugs when i was 16 years old.....about 20 years ago.she then said .....if you gonna get high do it at home....im still gettin her bags 19 years later....and oh yea we have a kick ass relasionship....shes more like a good friend than a parent.and i think she will love it ..................namaste
 
cxsx said:
Trent.. okay smart guy. my use of water was in the form of an analogy not a comparison. where are you from? where i'm from ppl know and have a command of the english language. you're just being an ass hole to be an ass hole - dont do that.

and i'm using 'ass hole' metaphorically just fyi ;)

I'm from Ontario.
 
RavenousBlonde said:
We don't look at each other like that in Alabamastan, either. Stop stereotyping.

All this info coming from a person who has an avatar of pills that have been eData tested as adulterated....

Yeah.

/end sarcasm

I don't see how my avatar has anything to do with what we are discussing...but since you brought it up...Even though they have been tested as adulterated wouldn't you agree that they are nice looking pills?
 
Swims mons would eans beans with him and his mom sometimes just them two and have a great experience..everyone is different..but go for it and have fun, itll bring you , your mom and your girl closer im sure...
 
um, WHAT THE FUCK @ this thread..

Lets get things into perspective:

1. E is an illegal substance that destroys lives, and even kills.

2. Giving drugs to your mum, when she already abuses drugs is NOT alright..Maybe you should show love and compassion to her, and get her help..E WILL NOT SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS!

3. (THE BIGGEST WTF!) That mom who said her son has a crush on her, and says its common:

* GET HELP..your a mom, and your doing drugs..hows that going to
affect your kids?? Will it make them more loving? um NO

* The fact that you think thats its common for a son to have sexual
feelings for their mom, makes me sick..you 'lol' about it making it
sound as if you like that he wants to go you..IT IS SERIOUSLY SICK!

Jesus..If you people are all American, then thank god i live in Australia.

and LOL at how the mom compared E to water..
and stop saying PLUR..
fuck E

well, thats my view.
 
im not being negative at all, im just giving my advice and bringing in some common sense.
Some people in this thread act like e is god, and brings a 'closeness' to a relationship, in which theres no other way to achieve..

There are reasons why some substances are illegal, and others legal..
And i totally agree with you, in that alcohol and tabacco kill more people than e..also, can destroy lives..
But the difference is, e can change/kill a person immediatly..

You tell me why e isnt legal..

Look, i dont give a shit what you do..I dont know you, or your situation..But, im allowed to give an opinion..I can swear on my grave that i would never EVER give my mom an illegal substance..It would make me feel so low, words could not describe..

Personally, i think you and your mom should kick the drug habit..you can even do it after you roll with her..just do it soon..

and no, i dont abuse drugs..

"you really are a zero....if you are not going to give advice,or say something possibly helpful,then dont even comment .noone wants to hear your negativity you racist fuck"

Jesus, stating the logic isnt helpful?

Goodluck, and hopefully you and your mom kick the habit :)
 
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