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Natural Medicine for the win (in actual practice).

A bowl of salad is more effective than those psychiatric, mind-numbing medications they want to force on you.
 
It's just that doctors are not paid for recommending it. They're paid to prescribe useless medications that only address the symptomps and don't heal the actual disease. Tried explaining this to a psychiatrist who came to see me today, but no, there is nothing up there.
 
A psychiatrist came to see you?

I once had a wonderful psychiatrist that studied under Jung, but the majority (ime), yes - seemed non humanistic or client centered looking for a dx in the patient verses truly taking the time to help. Of course most have a 1/2 hour session cap vs a therapist that have 50 but still…
So many factors …. types of providers and drug reps they have to respond to. I wouldn't want to be a psychiatrist. :)
 
Her most used line with me is "This is very difficult" because I'm not on board with her agenda and set out to do things my own way and she can't really find any way to object either.

Yes, I got so out of hand I get regular home-visits.
 
Medications have their uses, like if someone is REALLY out of control or they completely can't distinguish reality from whatever is going on in their heads... although I have my own thoughts on forcing schizophrenic/manic people to take drugs just because they see the world differently than everyone else, like it's one thing if the dark side of their disease is manifesting and they're putting themselves and others in danger because of it, but I know for a fact there are schizophrenic/manic/etc. people who's worst offense is that they genuinely believe they can fly or something and that they think they're flying around the room when in reality they're laying in bed. I mean, if that makes them happy, then fucking let them do it.

Rant over, but yeah, my point is that pills have their appropriate time and place but that they are abused like FUCK. A person who is going through a period of depression does not need to be put on a cocktail of pills. They need to address the deeper issue that's making them feel that way, because otherwise wtf is gonna happen when they run out of the pills? They're gonna be in withdrawal AND back to where they started at the same time. That's why I'm a huge advocate of CBT and spirituality and other things that can help pull people out of dark mental states naturally. I love psychology, I think it's interesting as fuck exploring the human psyche... it's both fascinating and scary at the same time. But I don't think I could be a psychologist in today's world either... I'd probably never prescribe anyone anything and would give them DMT or something instead and then get my license taken away by Big Pharma lol

The U.S. sucks. I fully intend to move to Australia, like, ASAP
 
I'd be so stoked to live in Norway, haha. I mean shit... you can go to the Swiss Alps, like, whenever you want!!! And you're on the coast. And your government doesn't completely suck.

Just curious, why England??
 
LOL

1. The Swiss Alps are far away. Never been near them. We have enough mountains here.
2. Everyone lives on the coast or by a fjord to be close to the water.
3. The government doesn't suck and are easy to take advantage of.
4. Language/culture familiarity.
 
Oh lol. I guess I just assumed it's easy to travel around Europe for some reason.

Culture UNfamiliarity is exactly why I want to live in Australia lol. It's truly amazing how shitty the U.S. government is, I'm almost ashamed to have even served this fucked up country... in fact my military service was a big contributor to my addiction to opiates. It's disgusting, some of the shit you see/learn in there.

Anyway, pardon my negativity today. I stopped taking Suboxone two days ago and I'm having the worst day I've had since quitting last week, with the exception of induction day. And I'm a little pissed off because I know it's going to get even worse before it gets better -_- Honestly tho I don't even know what I'm complaining about lol I could be bedridden in full heroin withdrawal. This is 10x more bearable. I just don't like being so negative, it's hard to feel all light and happy though when your body is under so much stress.
 
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3. The government doesn't suck and are easy to take advantage of.
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I was going to suggest you look at the job market before moving in your other thread but I see you're planning on being a benefits scrounger. Then the UK is the perfect place for you. You'll be able to sit on your lazy ass doing nothing besides complaining about being bored all day. The NHS will even you hook you up with your benzos at the taxpayer's expense!
 
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I was going to suggest you look at the job market before moving in your other thread but I see you're planning on being a benefits scrounger. Then the UK is the perfect place for you. You'll be able to sit on your lazy ass doing nothing besides complaining about being bored all day. The NHS will even you hook you up with your benzos at the taxpayer's expense!
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It will be nothing like that. I already receive disabilty from my own country I can take it with me there that covers a basic living. And I can take on random baby-sitting jobs to make extra money. I'm also a qualified writer, and very interested in that, but I know that is hard to break into. So I'm definitely willing to work and will in some way or other. I just have a security-net. I will be no burden on your country.

At least I pay for my benzos here.
 
Ninae said:
Her most used line with me is "This is very difficult" because I'm not on board with her agenda and set out to do things my own way and she can't really find any way to object either.

Yes, I got so out of hand I get regular home-visits.
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I guess I just asked as I don't see that happening in the US. When I really needed some home visits, I wan't able to receive them. I just went to the ER room. 6 times in one year, lol. :\ I was deep in addiction, having thyroid storm on top of my organic issues (dp/anxiety/and some other ailments at the time), emotional deprivation stuff from growing up, on and on, that I had not addressed.

It's also difficult to find a good match or doctor, many have their own agenda and can't truly meet an individual 'where they are at' in the moment.
 
Well, in my city, the socialist paradise, we have a mobile team that drives around to check up on people who have psychological issues or drug problems, just to make sure they stay alive and don't get into too much trouble.

It's voluntary, but I accepted as they can do you some favours, like drive you around, talk to you when you need it, and they also have some psychiatrists in their team.

So I have two support contacts I get regular visits from, and the psychiatrist who comes here every one-two weeks. She's also the one who prescribes benzos for me as my regular doctor won't (you know how freaked out they are about that). It's helpful, but sometimes a bit much stress.
 
That's wonderful you have that available where you reside... We have what's called MAP Vans here in SF - that make visits. I had managed care so care was limited, but just got approved for Medi-cal, as I was turned down for Covered Ca due to my disabilities...

I'm looking into alternative treatments. They might make visits also. I've been paying out of pocket for acupuncture and cmt for years, but I'm hopeful to maybe have new options.

America is not so lenient on making visits for folks with sa problems, but should be. Maybe one day... We have a long way to go here, the criminal justice system/and/drug war is a joke.

I can see how it might be stressful. I hope they come at times you expected or scheduled for you. :)
 
Sometimes they just show up or come on short notice, but it's okay.

Of course you have to be somewhat respectable to feel comfortable with it. If I was a full-time junkie/alcoholic living in a dump I think I would be too ashamed.

But some might be so far down that's not even an issue and they'll take all the help they can get.
 
Looking back when I was deep deep in addiction of polysubstance dependence and could not get out, I might have benefited from their help…
 
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I've now cut down from 4 benzos three times a day to 3 three times a day.

I know it's still a lot, but at least it's not an obscene amount, and allows me to do it without any discomfort.

I plan to cut down on half a pill a week every time I take them from now on.
 
What?

They don't get me high or do anything for me any more and I'm cutting down on them using the Ashton Manual so it doesn't get too difficult or give me seizures.

I just plan to get rid of it in about 3 months, and not 6-18 months like he says is fine, as long as you succeed.
 
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