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Glass lab equipment and the law?

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mr.buffnstuff

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Ok so due to the huge drop in quality and access to said chemicals I am CONSIDERING (if your the law this is completely hypothetical) making my own drugs. Inspired from an old boy I worked with who got fed up of the usual crap smoke so has spend most his life perfecting his own grow and crop not for profit just for his own satisfaction. I have a friend who is a very highly skilled chemist who will show me the ropes I also have a fair understanding myself. He can supply me with all the kit and places where to buy the chemicals non of which are controlled.
SO my question is, I Intend to make batches here an there then pack everything away till the next time. How would this stand in the eyes of the law if they came round for a friendly visit?
 
It would be suspicious IMO. Lots of home labs do similar things to make meth. How could an officer say this is any different?
If I can´t even grow my own single marijuana plant, I believe this would be against the law. My thoughts only.
After all you would have an entire lab built in your house. And you said batches, plural..in the eyes of the law, it wouldn´t be a friendly visit..
 
I'm no good with the computer stuff for darknet sadly :(
You can't grow plants but is it illegal to have the equipment to grow? I don't need that much equipment for the amounts that will be made I can just buy a big desk and kit it out on there. Most the stuff int controlled Untill
It's developed to a certain level as most chemicals your building up stage by stage.
 
To the best of my knowledge, there is no law against the possession of laboratory glassware. A 1L round bottomed flask, Soxhlet extractor, Leibig or Davy condenser, rubber hose, splash head and catch bend (for conversion to a distillation retort, to remove most of the excess solvent) and all the necessary Quickfit adaptors and clips to fit them all together can all be purchased from eBay. A small electric water pump of the type used in decorative water features is useful, as this means you can recirculate the same coolant rather than wasting it; and an electric hotplate is vastly preferrable to a gas burner when workig with inflammable solvents. Some procedures require distillation to be performed under vacuum, and a Büchner filtration is much faster than waiting for it to drip through by gravity alone; so you might also need a vacuum pump, multi-way vacuum receiver adaptor and more small round bottom flasks.

Again, all these things are readily available; I would venture to suggest that you are almost certainly breaking no law merely by being in possession of laboratory glassware. Still, the best way to pay for it is by means of a blank postal order, bought from a busy urban posh office. Do not put your real return address on the envelope; go to a car insurance or similar website where you can find an address from a postcode, and enter a postcode near your own (change just the last three characters, which are always digit, letter, letter, and keep trying till you find a valid combination which produces valid addresses.) In the unlikely event that it goes astray in the post, there is nothing to link it back to you (because the return address is fake, but at least you know it is a real address with the correct postcode, because of how you looked it up) or what you were trying to buy (it could have been anything from that vendor). Some random stranger gets a nice surprise in the post, is all that happens.

However, having said that, it probably would not be a good idea to advertise the fact that you own any expensive chemistry set. I'm a firm believer in making the prosecution work damned hard for their evidence. Definitely do not invite friends aroud for dinner whilst cooking up a batch of anything in another room. In fact, don't show your kit to anyone. What people don't know, they can't blurt out.

And be very very careful -- try not to blow yourself up.
 
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BecomingJulie said:
To the best of my knowledge, there is no law against the possession of laboratory glassware. A 1L round bottomed flask, Soxhlet extractor, Leibig or Davy condenser, rubber hose, splash head and catch bend (for conversion to a distillation retort, to remove most of the excess solvent) and the necessary adaptors and clips to fit them all together can all be purchased from eBay. A small electric water pump of the type used in decorative water features is useful, as this means you can recirculate the same coolant rather than wasting it; and an electric hotplate is vastly preferrable to a gas burner when workig with inflammable solvents. Some procedures require distillation to be performed under vacuum, and a Büchner filtration is much faster than waiting for it to drip through by gravity alone; so you might also need a vacuum pump, multi-way vacuum receiver adaptor and more small round bottom flasks.

Again, all these things are readily available; I would venture to suggest that you are almost certainly breaking no law merely by being in possession of laboratory glassware.

However, having said that, it probably would not be a good idea to advertise the fact that you own any expensive chemistry set. I'm a firm believer in making the prosecution work damned hard for their evidence.
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Yeh that's the sort of equipment I'm thinking of..... This is purely hypothetical of course!
 
BecomingJulie said:
To the best of my knowledge, there is no law against the possession of laboratory glassware. A 1L round bottomed flask, Soxhlet extractor, Leibig or Davy condenser, rubber hose, splash head and catch bend (for conversion to a distillation retort, to remove most of the excess solvent) and the necessary adaptors and clips to fit them all together can all be purchased from eBay. A small electric water pump of the type used in decorative water features is useful, as this means you can recirculate the same coolant rather than wasting it; and an electric hotplate is vastly preferrable to a gas burner when workig with inflammable solvents. Some procedures require distillation to be performed under vacuum, and a Büchner filtration is much faster than waiting for it to drip through by gravity alone; so you might also need a vacuum pump, multi-way vacuum receiver adaptor and more small round bottom flasks.

Again, all these things are readily available; I would venture to suggest that you are almost certainly breaking no law merely by being in possession of laboratory glassware.

However, having said that, it probably would not be a good idea to advertise the fact that you own any expensive chemistry set. I'm a firm believer in making the prosecution work damned hard for their evidence.
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You forgot the magnetic stirrer and fume cupboard. Oh, and a fire extinguisher just in case.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
You forgot the magnetic stirrer and fume cupboard. Oh, and a fire extinguisher just in case.
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Heating the reaction vessel will provide enough stirring, via convection currents; and if opening a window is insufficient, a fume cabinet can be improvised with plywood or masonite, perspex, and an in-line fan and some flexible air ducting.

Good point about the fire extinguisher, though! Definitely worth having one, even if you aren't conducting scientific research in your kitchen.
 
Ceres said:
what kind of drugs can you make with non-controlled chemicals? krokodil?
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If you don't mind possibly burning your house down any fool can make chloral hydrate by making a couple of stops at an off-licence and B&Q but the house burning down thing should make one consider whether it is worth the bother.
 
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