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Glass in Green Mitsubishis...

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I found what I believe to be sugar in some green mitsies earlier on in the year. The shards dissolved but when I removed some and tested them nothing happened. I scanned in the shards and compared them so some sugar I scanned in too and they looked exactly the same. It also tasted like sugar. So my conlcusion was that it was just sugar.
 
Ah, this old chestnut again. While theoretically anything could turn up in pills due to the unregulated market, it is highly unlikely that glass would be in your pills. There is no advantage of adding it in, just dangers. I doubt many people that have access to a pill press would be stupid enough to put glass into their product... as soon as people found out that a particular batch had glass in it, no one would want them. It would be bad publicity for the people who made them, and their customers would look else where.

If you search in one of the many other threads asking this same question, you might come across some element of truth to this myth. Though highly unlikely, I can remember reading in previous threads that some people have found what appeared to be a shard of glass, and put it in water and it didnt disolve. However, these were just from a single pill of a batch and the rest seemed somewhat normal, suggesting it may have been simply a lab accident.

As for the "heroin pill", I highly doubt that. However, there were some pills a few years back (cant remember the press unfortunately) that tested red under marquis and were morphine according to a GC/MS done on a sample of it. This could have fuelled the heroin in pills myth.
 
its quite funny, because the heroin pills were gc/ms tested while my friend was going through court, and it makes all you non belivers look quite silly now doesnt it. they contained an average of 152mg of heroin per pill, and were locally made so dealers could make more money. its not like they were imported pills, and they werent meant to be sold as extacy, they were meant to be sold as heroin.

and the acid thing was quite common here around the late eighties to the mid ninties. if we went to certain people to get pills we could ask for locals or imports. imports were always md**, and the locals were either speed bombs, k bombs or other substances like the blotter in the pill.

if you wanna pm me coz you think im bullshitting then do so, but your only going to look stupid in the end.
 
the_ketaman said:
imports were always md**, and the locals were either speed bombs, k bombs or other substances like the blotter in the pill.
Thats part of the point in this thread, so nopt many people are going to look silly. You are very unlikely to get an MD** pill that also contains another substance. Possible but unlikely as it would not increase but decrease profits of those who make them. Second point, how do you a single blotter in each pill you make? Very jard to understand this one. Sorry if I look silly but further explanation here is required.
 
why the fuck would they put 152mg of heroin in a pill?


oral administration of H is not even close to other methods of taking it - why would they waste good H and press it up to make what, 15-25 bucks for their 'H Pills' ?
 
^ I agree. This is only a rough estimate, but mods please feel free to remove the prices if this is breaking the guidelines. But, 152mg of Heroin could fetch between $XX on the street sold in rock form. Why on earth would they sell it in pill form if it's going to be harder to sell to junkies than a rock, and why would they be willing to lose $xx profit just so they can sell these as pills? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
But, I suppose anythings possible.
By the way, Heroin has very poor bioavailability if taken orally.

Edit: Actually, maybe these were just "Yaba" pills and you're getting confused. In which case, "Yaba" can sometimes contain a concoction of Caffeine, Meth and Heroin and is almost always smoked.

[Edit: No prices please. BigTrancer]
 
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for starters, i live in the middle of nowhere so i would think people use hand pill pressers. as most of the pills i get are blanks.

and dont ask me why people do this, im not the one who makes them so i dont know why theres heroin and blotter acid the pills that i got, there just is.
people dont shoot up much around here, and for some reason alot of people think if its in a pill it must be ok so the dealer pressed it once to see how the sales went, then the guy got caught and everyone stopped dealing.

and back in the old days when everyone wasnt scared of acid, it used to get pressed alot locally often in speed bombs though which was a bit of a shame, but now everyone is scared of acid so i dont see it much anymore.

does anyone know if other drugs such as MDMA and meth degrade acid's potency?

and please everyone get over the pills, if you dont believe me i dont care just keep it to yourself.

and diacetylus i used to get a gram of yellowy brown rocks of good H for a little more than you said, its different everywhere, i dont touch H anymore either so i dont know how much it is these days. all this was 15 years ago.
 
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i have been whitness to these shards in the green mitz quite a few times. its not glass. how about u carfully get it out of the pill and test it, mine come up as mdma.
sto the glass myth now
 
the_ketaman said:
and diacetylus i used to get a gram of yellowy brown rocks of good H for a little more than you said, its different everywhere, i dont touch H anymore either so i dont know how much it is these days. all this was 15 years ago.

Sorry matey, but things have changed ALOT since the early 90's. You will be lucky to get 2 points of gear for that price at the moment...
 
the_ketaman said:
for starters, i live in the middle of nowhere so i would think people use hand pill pressers. as most of the pills i get are blanks.

and dont ask me why people do this, im not the one who makes them so i dont know why theres heroin and blotter acid the pills that i got, there just is.
people dont shoot up much around here, and for some reason alot of people think if its in a pill it must be ok so the dealer pressed it once to see how the sales went, then the guy got caught and everyone stopped dealing.

and back in the old days when everyone wasnt scared of acid, it used to get pressed alot locally often in speed bombs though which was a bit of a shame, but now everyone is scared of acid so i dont see it much anymore.

does anyone know if other drugs such as MDMA and meth degrade acid's potency?

and please everyone get over the pills, if you dont believe me i dont care just keep it to yourself.

and diacetylus i used to get a gram of yellowy brown rocks of good H for a little more than you said, its different everywhere, i dont touch H anymore either so i dont know how much it is these days. all this was 15 years ago.

I belive there has been a thread about the feasability of pressing acid into a pill somewhere... from what i understand LSD molecules are very 'fragile' and it would be difficult to do. However it may be possible, although why press acid into a pill when you can sell it separately for more money?

Also, you say that they were often put into 'speed bombs'. This sounds like MDA, Which is much more 'speedy' than MDMA with a hallucinogenic effect, wheras a 'smacky' pill is more likely MDEA which is much less 'speedy' or 'dancy' than MDMA (As a side note MDxA substances are synergistic with LSD - that is they enhance each others effects, ergo candyflipping)

And as to why everyone gets worked up about it... because people believe hearsay and the myth starts again. So then i have to spend my time ranting at my friends who tell me that LSD puts holes in your brain and stays in your spinal fluid and makes you think that you're an orange and is laced with strychine...
 
If heroin was a commonly used adulterant it would be consistently appearing on reagent tests and GC/MS testing done by the authorities. Millions of pills are consumed on a daily basis and the found reports of heroin in pills numbers less then the total amount of deaths from acute MDMA poisoning. We would have read about such an issue in Microgram by now.

I would rather talk about winning the lottery as a more likely event then ever getting heroin in my pills. More to the point the completely spastic dealer that the_ketaman quotes got caught a long time ago thus ending such shenanigans. It would be wrong to claim that heroin is used as an adulterant in most pills being sold these days, on the basis of one dealer who did it.

For the most part the vast majority of heroin dealers I've know are far too smart (even the dumbest ones) to ever bother putting smack into pills. They are far to busy cutting their shit with glucose to maximize their profits then to bother printing out thousands of pills, by hand.

2. Regarding the glass thing

"The risks of swallowing these materials depends on their size, shape and sharpness. Small pieces can travel right through the bowel and be passed normally without problems. The bigger the person, the larger the piece that can go through. In general, narrow objects pass through the bowel more easily and smooth ones are less likely to get caught.

Sharp objects such as glass fragments would be expected to cause damage but rarely do so because of the gentle way in which the bowel handles them. Small splinters or spikes could cause perforation but this is very unusual. A small perforation rarely leads to peritonitis and usually heals quickly with any leakage contained. Small fragments may also cause a little bleeding into the bowel which can be detected on tests in the stools but serious blood loss is very rare. Ground glass, despite its reputation in thrillers, has no serious effect on the bowel."

http://www.digestivedisorders.org.uk/content/pdfs/18 Swallowing Glass.pdf

Consequently there are two things I think we can safely suppose.

a. The vast majority of glass claims in pills are simply people who have seen crystalline shards, be it meth or any other substances (doesn't MDMA have a HCI form?).

b. That the people who in turn to propagate these rumors are either extremely high or conversely had little sleep. I can recall many times talking to dealers who had been awake for several days shooting meth and so on going on to claim things like glass in pills, rat poison on acid and all the other urban myths.

c. that glass will in the vast majority of cases pass through the gut with little to no damage.

d. that there is (as far as I know) no official report of glass ever being in pills. Sure you get the occasional cop claiming that it could[ be in drugs but are there any official reports of this substances being found?

So in the ultra rare instances of real glass in a pill, is there anything to be worried about, no. Apart from the rare possibility of glassware breaking and the product containing said material I would say that most chemists would remove, at the very least the larger pieces of glass (a sifter would easily do it).

If your selling several kilo's of pure MDMA to a criminal gang intent on distribution you can be sure the chemist doesn't want to be accused of contaminating the product with glass of all things. You would not be a happy chappy when said gang family/friends were injured by a large piece of glass in the product.
 
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I have been testing personally as well as testing with Enlighten for about 5 years and have never experienced glass in Pills. This doesn't confirm that there is no glass in them but as previous posts confirm there are a number of suggestions:

1. Crystals of other substances e.g. Glucose, meth etc
2. If there is glass its by accident due to lazy cooks.

I have experienced 1st hand 1. but not 2.
 
152mg heroin per pill? That doesn't make economic sense. A street deal of heroin is about 50mg. In the late 90s, average purity of street heroin was about 60-80%. So with 152mg of heroin, you could end up with anywhere between 3 and 5 street deals, which you could sell for $ each. And of course heroin isn't terribly orally active. So pressing it into pills would be fucking stooooopid - why not just sell the heroin? It's a perfect product - sells itself without too much problem.

[Edit: NO PRICES please. BT]

OOPS - sorry about the prices. They are public knowledge though (check the relevant IDRS reports on the NDARC website)
 
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the_ketaman said:
for starters, i live in the middle of nowhere so i would think people use hand pill pressers. as most of the pills i get are blanks.

and please everyone get over the pills, if you dont believe me i dont care just keep it to yourself.

The reason Bluelight is here is for harm reduction. If you're going to come on here and rant and rave about these alleged heroin pills and acid pills, you will need to back that up with factual evidence otherwise no-one will believe a word you say.

There has only been one (maybe more since I last checked) pill that has been found to contain heroin by GC/MS testing, and that is hardly an example.

If adulterated pills are such a big problem in Australia, why didnt we hear about this certain circumstance if it had been through the courts?

I think you should poke your tongue out.
 
There is no glass in pills, it's a myth, in order for it to work the glass would have to be basically a powder and would need considerable force to actually have any effect on the inside of your stomach, it's just a stupid myth read the mdma: essential guide in the ED forum, it clears up a whole lod of these myths....
 
the_ketaman said:
its quite funny, because the heroin pills were gc/ms tested while my friend was going through court, and it makes all you non belivers look quite silly now doesnt it. they contained an average of 152mg of heroin per pill, and were locally made so dealers could make more money. its not like they were imported pills, and they werent meant to be sold as extacy, they were meant to be sold as heroin.

and the acid thing was quite common here around the late eighties to the mid ninties. if we went to certain people to get pills we could ask for locals or imports. imports were always md**, and the locals were either speed bombs, k bombs or other substances like the blotter in the pill.

if you wanna pm me coz you think im bullshitting then do so, but your only going to look stupid in the end.

I think you're looking a little bit stupid at the minute.
 
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