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I have stopped caffeine many times by meth and I don't care to drink alcohol on stuff.
But damn no DA/NE-agent really replaces proper adenosine antagonist but point is that I don't give a fuck about shit on ice, I need nothing. Maybe porn. And I like to brush my teeths.
 
I do not use heroin or meth.

My stimulant use has just been X, coke, meds like; addys, vyvanse, or even ritalin. But as far as opioids go(my DOC) I have done all forms of the medication, poppy seed tea, and had a decent amount of liquid opium?(weird indeed, very very old bottle a few tugs and you knew it was opiate, after that I would smoke the rest bit by bit). NOTE I do not use needles.

Anyways I have noticed greatly in the past that addys or vyvanse and in a pinch even psuedoephedrine pills helped immensely when "quitting"(probably not by choice.) But mostly just to get through the damn work day/week. Of course I was also on a plethora of other shit like Kratom and lope.

But yes where I am from meth has that stigma..in fact if someone says that person is on dope, they mean meth or ice.
I think the stigma is because once one gets started, they just swirl like a tornado of destruction around them, and get become screw faced. Missing teeth, after this or an extended period of time gone by, even if they were clean they still seemed to have wires crossed that makes them seem as if they have ADHD, Parkinson's, or just high..and this was definitely frowned upon(the high of the drug), because most could not be trusted and lived a muck.

Around farming communities these crazy fucks would steal anhydrous tanks or I guess maybe from them, to manufacture "anny dope". Then crystal made it's way in...but I got to say, growing up partying drinking days I never noticed the few friends that had a problem & now that I'm older and because ppl know what they know about another in small communities, some kept it so far down low belie the radar and obviously had some control over their use, and live normal lives.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
'inmates' is correct Xd.

That's kinda the only place where a junk habit comes with any kind of cache heheheh. Yeah you're right about the hierarchy, not just about the drug you use but how you use. If you did heroin but didn't inject, you weren't considered a 'proper' junkie.

Though in some places in the UK coke users view themselves as the top lot and see heroin users as inferior pieces of shit. They call them 'smack rats' and even go so far as to beat them up at times. (Like not random arguments, but go looking for some on purpose to beat up on.) But in general over here heroin comes with the 'broken fucked-up junkie' stereotype attached to it. Y'know the thin- as-a- rake guy who fixes up with dirty water from puddles behind rubbish bins down some back alley somewhere, type of thing...
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Dirty water from puddles is ok...i seen in Hannover banhof junkies got the water directly from toilet...not even from tap water,that is in wc...that's amazed me really...when i asked the guy-"why u just don't fill syringe with tap water?"-the guy told me-"not fuckin' care..we boil the water.....crazy sfuff
 
Nas47 said:
Dirty water from puddles is ok...i seen in Hannover banhof junkies got the water directly from toilet...not even from tap water,that is in wc...that's amazed me really...when i asked the guy-"why u just don't fill syringe with tap water?"-the guy told me-"not fuckin' care..we boil the water.....crazy sfuff
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Yeah some infectious bacteria will NOT be killed purely by boiling the water. Stagnant water like puddles is extremely bacteria-laden and risky to use ; even running water from a gutter is better than that.

And as for the toilet, if you absolutely have to then at least take it from the cistern 'cause that's comparatively clean. But I' ve seen idiots draw it from the sodding BOWL.....
 
Opana313 said:
I do not use heroin or meth.

My stimulant use has just been X, coke, meds like; addys, vyvanse, or even ritalin. But as far as opioids go(my DOC) I have done all forms of the medication, poppy seed tea, and had a decent amount of liquid opium?(weird indeed, very very old bottle a few tugs and you knew it was opiate, after that I would smoke the rest bit by bit). NOTE I do not use needles.

Anyways I have noticed greatly in the past that addys or vyvanse and in a pinch even psuedoephedrine pills helped immensely when "quitting"(probably not by choice.) But mostly just to get through the damn work day/week. Of course I was also on a plethora of other shit like Kratom and lope.

But yes where I am from meth has that stigma..in fact if someone says that person is on dope, they mean meth or ice.
I think the stigma is because once one gets started, they just swirl like a tornado of destruction around them, and get become screw faced. Missing teeth, after this or an extended period of time gone by, even if they were clean they still seemed to have wires crossed that makes them seem as if they have ADHD, Parkinson's, or just high..and this was definitely frowned upon(the high of the drug), because most could not be trusted and lived a muck.

Around farming communities these crazy fucks would steal anhydrous tanks or I guess maybe from them, to manufacture "anny dope". Then crystal made it's way in...but I got to say, growing up partying drinking days I never noticed the few friends that had a problem & now that I'm older and because ppl know what they know about another in small communities, some kept it so far down low belie the radar and obviously had some control over their use, and live normal lives.
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It's strange, the differing meanings of the word "dope" across the USA...where I'm from, and many places in the American west coast and southwest it seems, "dope" refers to meth, while on the east coast it refers to heroin. And older folks can remember when it referred to marijuana too...you kids smokin' dope out here?
 
Burnt Offerings said:
Burnt Offerings said:
You can use meth to beat heroin addiction, at least the acute withdrawal phase. Just do meth and fast forward through that entire week if need be lol! Just get ready for the mother of all crashes at the end of it, when you don't have anymore meth or heroin

So meth can be used that way, to get past a dependency on other drugs. If your use is not part of a plan of action that you're committed to executing, then it's pretty much completely meaningless and only qualifies as polydrug abuse basically. Which hey, no judgement from me, definitely been there, but don't make it out to be something it's not. Also meth doesn't address any fundamental reasons for why you'd become addicted to heroin in the first place, unless you have undiagnosed severe ADHD or something
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I think you may have misunderstood my post. I know the reason WHY I do heroin, it’s because it helps me not feel anything particularly trauma or any type of pain in my life. I’m now at my jumping off point, only have a little bit of H left, and have all my get well meds pretty well taken care of. I’ve had to get off of H cold turkey, so this is going to be still not fun, but not nearly as terrifying. And I do not have ADHD, I’ve had many tests… and update on the ice thing, I can buy a 60 bag and make it last for almost a month which is where I’m at now and it’s almost gone. Probably not gonna re-up.
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Nas47 said:
Dirty water from puddles is ok...i seen in Hannover banhof junkies got the water directly from toilet...not even from tap water,that is in wc...that's amazed me really...when i asked the guy-"why u just don't fill syringe with tap water?"-the guy told me-"not fuckin' care..we boil the water.....crazy sfuff
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Heroin addiction is terrifying. I don’t know how but I’m one of the lucky for you. That’s maintained an apartment, a job, and all the rest while having a severe addiction, but it’s time to get that shit under control. And yeah I’m a ‘proper junkie’ I guess lol.
 
Opana313 said:
I do not use heroin or meth.

My stimulant use has just been X, coke, meds like; addys, vyvanse, or even ritalin. But as far as opioids go(my DOC) I have done all forms of the medication, poppy seed tea, and had a decent amount of liquid opium?(weird indeed, very very old bottle a few tugs and you knew it was opiate, after that I would smoke the rest bit by bit). NOTE I do not use needles.

Anyways I have noticed greatly in the past that addys or vyvanse and in a pinch even psuedoephedrine pills helped immensely when "quitting"(probably not by choice.) But mostly just to get through the damn work day/week. Of course I was also on a plethora of other shit like Kratom and lope.

But yes where I am from meth has that stigma..in fact if someone says that person is on dope, they mean meth or ice.
I think the stigma is because once one gets started, they just swirl like a tornado of destruction around them, and get become screw faced. Missing teeth, after this or an extended period of time gone by, even if they were clean they still seemed to have wires crossed that makes them seem as if they have ADHD, Parkinson's, or just high..and this was definitely frowned upon(the high of the drug), because most could not be trusted and lived a muck.

Around farming communities these crazy fucks would steal anhydrous tanks or I guess maybe from them, to manufacture "anny dope". Then crystal made it's way in...but I got to say, growing up partying drinking days I never noticed the few friends that had a problem & now that I'm older and because ppl know what they know about another in small communities, some kept it so far down low belie the radar and obviously had some control over their use, and live normal lives.
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TheUltimateFixx said:
Always thought H has enough stigma haha, since it tends to be regarded as like the ultimate pathetic loser drug XD

If you didn't worry about how heroin users are generally seen, why give a shit about the public perception of meth.
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The post wasn’t that I gave a shit what people think of me, it was what I thought of people that smoked meth. And it’s not really using it to withdrawal with as much as to cut down and taper, so my withdrawals arent as bad. Jumping off point is coming really soon, I’ll let you guys know how it goes.
 
negrogesic said:
It mostly serves as a distraction but also address some of dopamine deficits associated with opioid withdrawal.

As far as the differences, serotonergic properties and greater dopaminergic activity set it apart from adderall, and also makes it more recreational and comfortable to take in high doses.
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Meth has always been a strong hangover / WD killer for me regarding any substance. It’s a flood of feel good that just seems to be able to titrate other addictions in my experience. It’s something like 10x the dopaminergic release of crack cocaine and it lasts. That’s pretty powerful.

Methamphetamine could probably be looked at as a line of treatment for the odd person out who feels this way, if it were not so inherently addictive and destructive in and of itself. It’s an inanimate object that boils down to the users decision-making just like anything else. But it’s a big decision.

Practice proper smoke technique, flame well away as you’re vaporizing not smoking. Pipe should never go dark if you do it right. Realize what you’re contending with and keep up the heroin withdrawal no matter what you do. That’s the set I’d be trying to pull out of the hat if I was in your situation / felt how you are @Bcdubzz . I’ve done this sort of thing before, to an extent.

To an extent because I have a major tendency to run into problems with meth in the end regardless of how well it manages anything o5er substance.
 
The comedown and depression from Meth is too harsh and unbalancing I would find at a time when our bodies are trying to get in balance/homeostasis.
I’ve always preferred a long acting benzo like Clonazapam to calm the nerves and mental unrest while trying to kick opioids.
 
Opi_Kid_Rock said:
The comedown and depression from Meth is too harsh and unbalancing I would find at a time when our bodies are trying to get in balance/homeostasis.
I’ve always preferred a long acting benzo like Clonazapam to calm the nerves and mental unrest while trying to kick opioids.
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Matè is the man, and I have a clonzepam prescription for 60 1mg every month so I’m in pretty good shape folks. I have like 25 gabapentin getting a couple Somas. I got a whole damn pharmacy over here and then I bought some magnesium I bought some of the antidiarrheal medication. Don’t ask me to take 20 of them I’m not gonna do it….. any other vitamins y’all can think of that would help me I have calcium and D3, I have a multivitamin, a B12 that melts under my tongue, and biotin and then I have a new magnesium one that I got from Costco. In addition to this, I also have at least 38 mg Suboxone but I’m not trying to take those as very much. I do not want to switch addictions.
 
Joey said:
Meth has always been a strong hangover / WD killer for me regarding any substance. It’s a flood of feel good that just seems to be able to titrate other addictions in my experience. It’s something like 10x the dopaminergic release of crack cocaine and it lasts. That’s pretty powerful.

Methamphetamine could probably be looked at as a line of treatment for the odd person out who feels this way, if it were not so inherently addictive and destructive in and of itself. It’s an inanimate object that boils down to the users decision-making just like anything else. But it’s a big decision.

Practice proper smoke technique, flame well away as you’re vaporizing not smoking. Pipe should never go dark if you do it right. Realize what you’re contending with and keep up the heroin withdrawal no matter what you do. That’s the set I’d be trying to pull out of the hat if I was in your situation / felt how you are @Bcdubzz . I’ve done this sort of thing before, to an extent.

To an extent because I have a major tendency to run into problems with meth in the end regardless of how well it manages anything o5er substance.
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I guess I’m lucky because I don’t like uppers at all, so I’m really only using this as a distraction to not be doing the heroin as much…. my jump off day is next week I’m scared to death, but I have everything I could possibly need, except for my boyfriend and I broke up last week, so that kind of fucking sucks. Although I’ve gone through withdrawals with a boyfriend in the past, and that kind of fucking sucked too. Lol

what are you guys think? Withdrawal by yourself or have a buddy come over? I could have a buddy come over and check on me every so often? What’s the best way? And don’t say rehab; don’t even fucking think about it.
 
If u live in Europe....and really wanna quitt all this shit.....REHABS and the nasty ones.They say-womens rehabs from this sort are even harder,than men's...'cause they ain't so much workin' like men...u just cook&clean allday....and goin' insane slowly.Got to fulfilled the program-about a year......and ur chances to go out of this bog stand really,really strong.....to be cured forever from addiction.If u are still young-act....'cause if u don't act....a decade would pass like a blinkin' of ur eye.
 
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Opi_Kid_Rock said:
The comedown and depression from Meth is too harsh and unbalancing I would find at a time when our bodies are trying to get in balance/homeostasis.
I’ve always preferred a long acting benzo like Clonazapam to calm the nerves and mental unrest while trying to kick opioids.
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Yeah, the downside of meth is it lasting so long and interfering with healing overnight. I loved meth (was using pretty low dosages like 20-40mg/d as self-medication and for euphoria) but once I stopped the depression hit rock hard, unlike plain amphetamine which just had me sleeping one or two days and then all was fine again.

Meth isn't the hardest stim around btw, just give alpha-PVP/PHiP etc. a try and ya know what a hard stim is. Alpha-PVP was contained in some of these infamous bath salts and nicked cannibal drug etc. but I don't believe these urban legends. I liked PVP but once overdosed it and did bad shit like stealing a car.
 
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