Girlfriends first time

[mr_maul]

Hi, I have been reading threads here for a while but never posted anything before, but i would like a bit of input on this one.

My girlfriend is thinking about trying MDMA with me for the first time at some point over the summer. I am experienced and have done it many times along with most other substances that I have wanted to do (still haven’t done mescaline though ) but she has only ever smoked a little bit of weed.

I can get some very nice clean MDMA, now I would normally just bomb 200mg or so, but obviously for her first time that would not be a good idea. I was thinking something like 80mg or something? or maybe 100mg? I want her to get a nice taste for it and have a good time but not to be too overwhelming bearing in mind she is very sensitive to both weed and alcohol. What do you guys think?

 

[Mazzab]

Sounds about right my friend. That's a good starter dose for most and females are also more sensitive.

 

[just say know]

let us know how it goes friend where will be your setting? personally i really want to trip/roll at a botanical gardens.

 

[mr_maul]

Cool, cheers. I will keep you posted on how it goes. We will probably just do it in my flat and chill out with some good music. I would love her to do some acid with me too but i think we can wait for that

Botanical gardens sounds like it would be an awesome setting for a nice little candy flip though :D

 

[Innerpeace]

better to introduce it slowly the first time more on the common average dose for her weight, much better to have a nice empathetic roll than an overwhelming roll here it almost cancels out the empathetic qualities. 80-100mg sounds about right

 

[FuckWithRaw]

I'll echo 80-100 mg as you don't want her totally gone it won't be fun.

 

[P.o.T.u.S]

just be aware the come up anxiety of MDMA may trouble her..just be prepared to calm her down with reassurance and a possible change of scenery.the lower the dose the better for the first time u dont want her to become overwhelmed and ruin future experiences.

 

[epic11]

100mg for a first. Make sure its tested and teach her the basics of harm reduction with it. 3 month breaks optimal.

 

[questforstarfish]

I've never seen 80mg work, even for a friend of mine who's small, female and sensitive to drugs. From what I've seen, 80mg is just enough to hit right below threshold, causing anxiety. I would start someone on 100-125mg and no more. In my experience, as well, if you start too low and then take a second oral dose to make it kick in, it comes on too slowly and doesn't really work. I have had a few friends take a small dose to start, but it was too small to do anything, so they took a second, smaller oral dose to make it kick in. This didn't work for any of them! So the next time, they started with a smaller oral dose of 100-125mg, didn't work again, and then they snorted about 50mg- THAT finally kicked it in so they could roll normally. I'm not sure why this happens, but this has been my experience! Of course, if she doesn't do other drugs she may not feel comfortable snorting, so encourage her only to do what she's comfortable with Start low and go slow is always a good motto with any new drug or medication, though not hitting the threshold can result in anxiety or disappointment so it's a fine line!

EDIT: I just noticed that another poster commented on anxiety, and s/he made a great point! We often forget how scary the anxiety can be for people taking a new drug, if they experience it. Anxiety on M can feel like being overwhelmed, nauseous, heart pounding, dizziness, extreme worry (how long will this last? I don't think it's hitting me right! I think I need to go to the hospital!), difficulty catching your breath, teeth chattering, difficulty regulating your body temperature, confusion, needing to lay down, etc. If she gets this, the best thing is to not leave her alone through it, and to constantly remind her that it's temporary. Because anxiety is such an intense emotion, it burns itself out very quickly in most cases, this means it's a short-lived feeling. It's caused by the initial rapid release of serotonin. Encourage her to lay down, breathe deeply, hold her hand, and let her know that it's a normal reaction and it usually ends in five to ten minutes.

 

[Cereals]

I second the prep for come up. I come up super fast and hard, and end up riding the first wave in the bathroom because the anxiety and rush make me puke. Remind her it comes in waves, so whatever she is feeling will pass quickly!