Gibberings CXXXII: Like an overweight person consuming a poor-tasting biscuit

[gayorstraight]

I only get paranoid over small everyday things. Not the CIA coming to bust me. Lol

 

[WithMyLife]

Hell yes. I love stims.

I have a full sized digital piano at my parent's house. Now I've finally bought a decent sized house, I have enough permanence and enough room to bring it here. Next weekend I could go get it and plonk it in my spare room, and get back into playing again. OR I could buy some stims and spend the weekend mashed off my face having an amazing time. Hmmmmm. Tricky tricky.

 

[swampdragon]

But in your case based on what you just wrote, you could try to channel the nervous energy it gives you, into concentrating on something that requires effort and attention ... be that a hobby/entertainment thing, or work related or whatever.

I think I would possibly get a bit antsy if I was just sitting around doing nothing. Dexedrine and dancing to stompy dance music is brilliant, though I get a bit anxious until it kicks in properly. I'd suggest trying less - I get on well with rather small amounts of the stuff. Or I suppose, don't bother if they don't suit you is probably the best advice..

You mentioned somewhere earlier about etiz maybe helping to calm the paranoia, which it could well do, but then you're just adding another pill to take. I know a lot of people here do that, but it's on my list of verbotens.

Yeah, taking drugs to ease the side effects of other drugs is firmly on my list of Things To Avoid.

 

[Ceres]

I guess -- I always think you have to be an egomaniac to suffer from proper stim paranoia. You must be very important if the police/CIA/them are going to hack your webcam and spy on you, or generally monitor you and discuss you. Me, I'm just a girl with a barely bustable stash.

Unfortunately sometimes they really are out to get you and its a rational concern, not delusional atall. Eliminating reasons to be paranoid from your life helps a lot. I gave up something I lived and breathed 24/7 for exactly because of that, quite a long time ago, before I even touched stims, just to stay sane, and it was such a relief not to have worry at the back of my mind all the time. But I felt totally stripped of my purpose and was floundering around lost for a good few years until I got back on track.

I have no reasons to worry now (mostly) and occasional dabbles in mild stims lately haven't made me paranoid like I was a few years ago, just anxious a lot of the time for no particular reason, so I don't find them too useful anymore. Sometimes it's fine though and I get loads done and feel good about it afterwards because of the sense of achievement....just have to be in the right frame of mind and know im not going to have anything unexpected happen to interfere with my day and throw me off.

You are right though, delusional paranoia is exclusively egocentric and obviously delusional, involves technically or physically impossible things and so on, it's easy to spot as an outside observer, or in hindsight if you suffer from an episode of it. -* and definately a sign that you shouldn't be doing stims *-

 

[WithMyLife]

That's fair,

I have reasonable and rational fears abut my friends, family and work colleagues knowing about my drug use. Or my neighbours, or the popo (the regular popo, not the CIA). But when I do stims, they obliterate these fears rather than magnify them. CIA jokes aside, that's what I meant when I said that some people are "wired that way".

 

[knock]

Changing the subject abruptly, I had a very bad case of the hiccups yesterday evening, they started about 7pm and went on until I cured them at about 11pm. The cure was to grip and pull my tongue for about 20 seconds. The hiccups stopped immediately! I didn't just make this cure up, I got it from here:

Vagus nerve stimulation can improve hiccups, done at home by irritating the pharynx through swallowing dry bread or crushed ice, or by applying traction to the tongue, or by stimulating the gag reflex.

Seemed the least unpleasant of the options. You don't have to pull your tongue hard, just keep it under tension for a short while. Needs to be a bit dry as well to permit a grip. Just a tip, hiccups can be extremely annoying.

 

[Ceres]

Seemed the least unpleasant of the options. You don't have to pull your tongue hard, just keep it under tension for a short while. Needs to be a bit dry as well to permit a grip. Just a tip, hiccups can be extremely annoying.

haemostats, the perfect tool for the job

 

[Albion]

http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/

 

[knock]

http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/

I thought it was going to be my plugging flick, DISAPPOINTED!

Haemostats - every home should have them!

They are also used as heatsinks while soldering electric circuits, as tools to hold the filter of marijuana cigarettes, and by fishermen to remove hooks from the mouths of fish, and by motor mechanics to hold nuts, bolts, screws in constricted locations.

The Swiss army knife of gripping instruments.

 

[Ceres]

That's fair,

I have reasonable and rational fears abut my friends, family and work colleagues knowing about my drug use. Or my neighbours, or the popo (the regular popo, not the CIA). But when I do stims, they obliterate these fears rather than magnify them. CIA jokes aside, that's what I meant when I said that some people are "wired that way".

the problem about doing things which you cant tell people about, paranoia aside, is it can be a pretty isolating experience and I find it quite difficult to main that for extended periods of time, guilt and paranoia are just the icing on the cake.

Anyway, 3-MeO-PCP solves my problem of wanting stims to get me motivated and productive, without any of the negative effects of dopaminergic/seretonergic drugs, and can actually be enjoyable recreationally too, if I can let myself be recreational for once

 

[Ceres]

Changing the subject abruptly, I had a very bad case of the hiccups yesterday evening, they started about 7pm and went on until I cured them at about 11pm. The cure was to grip and pull my tongue for about 20 seconds. The hiccups stopped immediately! I didn't just make this cure up

I heard auto-fellatio is an excellent cure for hiccups, I didn't make this up.

 

[Shambles]

I guess -- I always think you have to be an egomaniac to suffer from proper stim paranoia. You must be very important if the police/CIA/them are going to hack your webcam and spy on you, or generally monitor you and discuss you. Me, I'm just a girl with a barely bustable stash.

Then I have four lil words for you: Em. Dee. Pee. Vee. That is all.

I heard auto-fellatio is an excellent cure for hiccups, I didn't make this up.

AFAIK the only known guaranteed cure for chronic hiccups involves a finger up the bottom. Can't remember what it is that's supposed to be prodded - prostate seems an odd possibilty so presume there's some nerve or summat up there. I do know it's the only known cure for severe hiccups though.

 

[knock]

AFAIK the only known guaranteed cure for chronic hiccups involves a finger up the bottom. Can't remember what it is that's supposed to be prodded - prostate seems an odd possibilty so presume there's some nerve or summat up there. I do know it's the only known cure for severe hiccups though.

It stimulates the vagus nerve, and tongue-pulling does the same, so it's not the only known cure although maybe it's the best cure.

 

[Ceres]

knock must have pulled his finger out for once then if he got hiccups.

sundays fucking drag on tooo much, roll on monday and the world being back to business.

 

[Shambles]

The same nerve runs from rectum to tongue?!? No wonder you can taste wot you podger

And I stand corrected. QI lied to me again

Or maybe not. Apparently digitial rectal stimulation is wot you get if you go to a doctor to cure chronic hiccups. That's probably just for their own amusement though :D

 

[ColtDan]

sundays fucking drag on tooo much, roll on monday and the world being back to business.

do they fuck, the weekends go too fast

 

[knock]

The same nerve runs from rectum to tongue?!? No wonder you can taste wot you podger

And I stand corrected. QI lied to me again

Or maybe not. Apparently digitial rectal stimulation is wot you get if you go to a doctor to cure chronic hiccups. That's probably just for their own amusement though :D

Don't know what the doctor does, and I wouldn't put getting their cheap thrills past them, but the vagus does indeed connect rectum and tongue:

Looks like it to me anyway. Is the big blue information superhighway, I think! Maybe has to be routed via the Medulla...

 

[ColtDan]

got some chicken soup here that says it contains 4% chicken... why am i eating this

 

[Shambles]

Why would chicken soup have lots of actual chicken in it? Surely is just chicken stock and bits no matter where it comes from?

Knock: Live and learn, eh

 

[knock]

Even a human is as little as 25% actual human, rest being water. 4% chicken may not be that bad. Sounds a bit paltry on the poultry front, I agree.

Knock: Live and learn, eh

Is the best policy... I'm compiling the information on the fly, though, so I'm living and learning too