Gibberings CXXVI : Post moar, Kenny says so

[Mugz]

Hahah thank you Mugz but considering I haven't slept in about two days and I'm all sweaty, shaking and nauseous, I don't think anyone could ever consider me 'hot' right now

Well good I guess, I haven't taken any heroin or coke in a couple days but I'm currently deep in the 'fucking kill me now I don't want to live like this' phase
Benzos/codeine are vaguely helping but I wish I had something more effective.

Keep at it, will be worth it in the end and then it the stares will just be commonplace like usual.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Currently sitting in a suave hospital awaiting one of the most important meetings of my life. Only to be told my Professor is running 1-1.5 hours late. I could do without that.

Oh, and don't give any more money to MacMillan, they really don't need it. You should see the hi-tech shit I'm sitting around. Despite the delay, this is one nice hospital. How every hospital should be.

 

[knock]

Good, I gave my Christmas money to Cancer Research and Shelter. And Mugz. Was that MacMillan?


Hope the meeting goes well, SHM!

 

[Mailmonkey]

Currently sitting in a suave hospital awaiting one of the most important meetings of my life. Only to be told my Professor is running 1-1.5 hours late. I could do without that.

Oh, and don't give any more money to MacMillan, they really don't need it. You should see the hi-tech shit I'm sitting around. Despite the delay, this is one nice hospital. How every hospital should be.

Sounds very plush.

Not nice waiting for so long, but I suppose there have been a few other people having the most important meetings of their lives today with your consultant. I know I used to take up far more than my allotted time at consultants appointments.

Still bitched like a baby when I was told they were running late though

RM's chosen charity this year is Prostate Cancer UK...last year was Barnardos, as an organisation - mainly through the sheer number of employees, we're not bad at raising cash, expecting 2 million quid to be donated this year, RM match everything raised by employees pound for pound....and so they fucking should with net profits of 350million or so, even in the current climate....

Hope your appointment goes well, you're probably in there now, let us know anyway

 

[Marmalade]

Good Luck x Eleventy SHM, really hope you're lavished with good news today

 

[Pagey]

Clonidine is supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread if you can get your hands on it. Which you can if you look hard enough, or get a prescription from a clued up doctor.

Oh awesome, cheers - I'll ask my shrink about it, he knows I'm WD'ing so hopefully he'll be helpful.

Keep at it, will be worth it in the end and then it the stares will just be commonplace like usual.

Lol well thanks. Yeah I hope it'll be worth it cuz I've got trouble believing that right now

Currently sitting in a suave hospital awaiting one of the most important meetings of my life. Only to be told my Professor is running 1-1.5 hours late. I could do without that.

Oh, and don't give any more money to MacMillan, they really don't need it. You should see the hi-tech shit I'm sitting around. Despite the delay, this is one nice hospital. How every hospital should be.

I hope it went well

 

[Mugz]

Good, I gave my Christmas money to Cancer Research and Shelter. And Mugz. Was that MacMillan?


Hope the meeting goes well, SHM!

It was also cancer research UK knock.

Good luck with your meeting SHM, you 49yr old woman from Rochdale 8)

Oh awesome, cheers - I'll ask my shrink about it, he knows I'm WD'ing so hopefully he'll be helpful.



Lol well thanks. Yeah I hope it'll be worth it cuz I've got trouble believing that right now

I'm sure your shrink will be accommodating. It is always gonna be hard to believe in the midst of withdrawal, you are strong enough to see it through though, especially gotten this far. I believe in you

 

[Ben So Furry]

Good luck with your meeting SHM, you 49yr old woman from Rochdale 8)

All the best, sweetheart.

 

[knock]

I'm thinking of starting a generic opiate/opioid withdrawal symptom thread. Somewhere to discuss coping techniques / medication etc.

There have been a few related threads over the years but, as far as I can see, there's no general thread.

Threads about using benzos, threads about codeine withdrawal, threads about Ibogaine, methadone taper, maintenance, recovery and treatment for opiates, and Lofexadine for Buprenorphine withdrawal.

The maintenance, recovery and treatment for opiates thread seems like the closest to what I'm thinking about, but there's a fair bit of tl;dr in it, and it's focus is not really on dealing with withdrawal symptoms. It's more about rehab, replacement therapy, stuff like that. I am thinking more of a thread dedicated to sharing ways of combating the withdrawal symptoms.

I'm being a bit self-interested here as I'm having my first unpleasant experience of opioid withdrawal, and it would be nice to have people's ideas and experiences all in one place. Also I've been littering other unrelated threads with my drivel on the matter.

But as my experience with opiates and opioids is not all that extensive, perhaps I'm being a bit naive and it makes more sense to have multiple threads on specific aspects of the topic.

So, people with more experience than me, please let me know what you think. If it's a good idea, I'll go ahead and start it. If it's not, I'll start a fresh AH7921 withdrawal thread. But I'd rather not do that as it seems like there is a fair amount of crossover of withdrawal symptoms between the various opiates and opioids, and therefore there will be common ways of coping and medicating, and it would make sense to have this information in one place.

 

[Pagey]

^I think that's a great idea, would be happy to share my own experience/methods.

 

[knock]

Thanks! I will allow a day or so to get feedback from anyone with an interest,

 

[Ceres]

how much ah7291 have you been doing? The stuff left me feeling like I was dying for 2 days at the end of just a week and a bit of regular usage.

 

[knock]

I've been doing quite a bit over a month or so. Doses 250-350mg every day or two for maybe six weeks. Maybe a bit longer.

By the way, after last night's only partially-successful use of phenibut to get some sleep, I've decided cold-turkey wasn't necessarily the best idea so I've just eaten 100mg. So I'm thinking of doing a bit of a taper between now and my meds arriving. Maybe I won't need the meds!

Anyway ceres, do you think there is any merit in my proposed thread?

 

[Ceres]

Definately, I'm surprised it doesn't already exist.

 

[Ben So Furry]

I'm thinking of starting a generic opiate/opioid withdrawal symptom thread. Somewhere to discuss coping techniques / medication etc.

Not sure but what's been said about this since I saw it so prob. already decided, not that I have any say in the mater (just saying) but this is should obviously be an excellent idea in my opinion and should have already been done I suspect.

Knock I have absolutely no idea what opiate withdrawal is like but it sounds right proper nasty and if you feel you or anyone else would benefit in any way that then you should have done it already. Aint you like the supermod with extra special powers. Think someone was telling me the other day or something, I get stuff wrong mate, bare with me, lulz, int you the one who has to beat the other mods (I'd don't condone this btw, but rules are rules as they say) to make them toe a line? Something was said I'm sure of that.

Knock hearing your having a shit/shitty time is crap mate and must be dealt with sharpish. Like I said I know nothing of such things but I did cain a load of that AH stuff over a period of time and was being sick all the time and feeling crap for a lot of it and didn't like that much at all. It is not a good thing. You know what I think of bad things so I won't mention it.

Mate banging tune, if you can manage iot I posted a chooon that has this bloke in it and goes 'fuck you, I will fucking kill you' to a young child, I fucking lost it and was like all day, right cheered me up that did (not that there was anything wrong at all in the first place you understand)so get that on maybe?

 

[knock]

:D

Yeah I might just go ahead and do it, considering I've only had positive responses so far, but I was hoping to hear from people with more opi experience than me. I mean, maybe the differences in withdrawal between the different opis are significant enough to mean they can't be treated in the same way. I doubt it, other than severity, but maybe. So I asked the same question in the Heroin thread, and I'm waiting for their input, and also it would be useful to hear thoughts from Brimz, Shambles, Myshkin, Pink Papaver, Flipping Top, Monstanoodle and many others, even Mugz! () Effie and Albion too, of course. Maybe MM even though he claims he doesn't like opiates (not sure how this is possible). MDB if he's around in some disguise. And like I said, many others. Colourful Kronos is another one who would have something useful to say.

 

[Ben So Furry]

I like codeine - never experienced bad from that, did a bit of the AH stuff - had a little bit of a shit time but was fine overall so couldn't comment but are you ok mate? How you feeling?

 

[knock]

I like codeine - never experienced bad from that, did a bit of the AH stuff - had a little bit of a shit time but was fine overall so couldn't comment but are you ok mate? How you feeling?

Well, I'm feeling fine just now but I've had a biggish dose of kratom, 8mg of flubromazepam, 45mg ethylphenidate and 100mg AH7921.

The symptoms I've been suffering from are difficulty getting to sleep, (extreme, horrible) night sweats, leading to disturbed sleep and oversleeping (14 hours in bed ) lethargy, apathy and ridiculous sensitivity to the cold. Oddly enough, I have had no trouble with restless legs, which is something I get anyway, and is the only withdrawal symptom I had when coming off o-desmethyltramadol. (apart from possibly wanting to top myself, but I'm not sure about that one, I may have wanted that at the time anyway).

But right now, fucking fine

Anyway, it's not all about me. It just so happens my own experience has made me notice a gap in the information we have in EADD and I want to fill it, for the benefit of all.

 

[Mailmonkey]

I'm thinking of starting a generic opiate/opioid withdrawal symptom thread. Somewhere to discuss coping techniques / medication etc.

There have been a few related threads over the years but, as far as I can see, there's no general thread.

Threads about using benzos, threads about codeine withdrawal, threads about Ibogaine, methadone taper, maintenance, recovery and treatment for opiates, and Lofexadine for Buprenorphine withdrawal.

The maintenance, recovery and treatment for opiates thread seems like the closest to what I'm thinking about, but there's a fair bit of tl;dr in it, and it's focus is not really on dealing with withdrawal symptoms. It's more about rehab, replacement therapy, stuff like that. I am thinking more of a thread dedicated to sharing ways of combating the withdrawal symptoms.

I'm being a bit self-interested here as I'm having my first unpleasant experience of opioid withdrawal, and it would be nice to have people's ideas and experiences all in one place. Also I've been littering other unrelated threads with my drivel on the matter.

But as my experience with opiates and opioids is not all that extensive, perhaps I'm being a bit naive and it makes more sense to have multiple threads on specific aspects of the topic.

So, people with more experience than me, please let me know what you think. If it's a good idea, I'll go ahead and start it. If it's not, I'll start a fresh AH7921 withdrawal thread. But I'd rather not do that as it seems like there is a fair amount of crossover of withdrawal symptoms between the various opiates and opioids, and therefore there will be common ways of coping and medicating, and it would make sense to have this information in one place.

tl,dr

 

[Ceres]

I know so many people that have had probs with just casual one off periods on say tramadol, that aren't really drug users and don't expect there to be consequences, they don't know where to go for advice...

after ah7291 withdrawal, I'd never use opiates recreationally again.