Gibberings : CXXIII : Get out of Bed you fuckers!

[StoneHappyMonday]

Marmz is kruel.

Meanwhile, I remember making a post a few months ago which said I was concerned about the diet the government were allowing our supermarkets to put down our throats. When I was a kid you could tell all the working class kids because they were the skinny ones, the ones who couldn't afford proper food. Now the working class kids are the fat kids, brought up on sugar and horsemeat.

Nothing wrong with horsemeat. I'm tired of hearing this. Talk about miss the point. This is a spectacular scandal, as basic as it gets in the world of regulation, the regulation of what we put in our mouths.

Don't tell me there's heroin in my ecstasy pills while you're putting dog shit in my burger.

 

[Ceres]

horsemeat is full of drug residues that are pretty toxic for humans, since they aren't intended to be eaten they pump them full of all sorts of unpleasant crap.

 

[curious_24]

Good afternoon EADD.

It's snowing again and I'm off work so that means codeine, caffeine and pancakes! :D

 

[DSP-2230]

horsemeat is full of drug residues that are pretty toxic for humans, since they aren't intended to be eaten they pump them full of all sorts of unpleasant crap.

Yet again, misinformation. Post your findings.

 

[Ceres]

Yet again, misinformation. Post your findings.

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-02-12/meat-investigators-raid-plant/

 

[Marmalade]

Marmz is kruel.

Meanwhile, I remember making a post a few months ago which said I was concerned about the diet the government were allowing our supermarkets to put down our throats. When I was a kid you could tell all the working class kids because they were the skinny ones, the ones who couldn't afford proper food. Now the working class kids are the fat kids, brought up on sugar and horsemeat.

Nothing wrong with horsemeat. I'm tired of hearing this. Talk about miss the point. This is a spectacular scandal, as basic as it gets in the world of regulation, the regulation of what we put in our mouths.

Don't tell me there's heroin in my ecstasy pills while you're putting dog shit in my burger.

Me n' Nerdboy here have been raging about the same thing all week.

Especially lovin the FSA response that all other products (barring the ones that have been tested and confirmed to have horsemeat in, that have been withdrawn), are very safe and to carry on buying how you normally would. WTF. They're too fucking small to be able to state that, and it's a fucking criminal response imo. They admit they've only tested a small amount of products and are awaiting the result of a huge number of tests back., but everything else is very safe. trust us. I think the FSA guy who's been on the news all week said generally they only check 10% of all products, but I bet it's even less than that

Wasn't it a private Irish testing company that unearthered the horse meat* presence in the first place? I don't think it was the FSA anyway.

The FSA are a joke. The gvnt's response has been ridiculous. The level of trust the govnt has entrusted the majors with is flabbergasting. They're essentially leaving the supermarkets to self-regulate.

The govnts non-policy on how they plan to tackle the problem of obesity beggars belief, and as usual ignores key trends and advice from all the various concerned groups who've been trying to get them to do something proactive about the problem.

Meanwhile, we're still getting swamped with new brands of shitty chocolate cereals without the govnt batting an eyelid because that's what kids krave apparently, and it's up to the supermarkets what they want to sell.



* re the horsemeat thing. I understand it's just horsemeat etc, but as it's been added into the system unmonitored, there's no way that can been deemed fit for human consumption, it's not possible given the method of how it got there. + what Ceres said about foreign substances. Not that regulations are necessarily being adhered to with beef, but in the case of this particular horsemeat, it's not that it can even been investigated and the production processes analysed

Yet again, misinformation. Post your findings.

It's really not misinformation at all. There's no way the horsemeat that's been used can be confidentally claimed to be fit for human consumption

 

[DSP-2230]

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-02-12/meat-investigators-raid-plant/

You do know quoting a link from ITV holds as much weight as a Jeremy Kyle DNA test..?

 

[Ceres]

The International Agency for Research on Cancer places it in Group 3; i.e., "not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans".

Use in horses is limited to those not intended for food. Metabolites of phenylbutazone can cause aplastic anaemia in humans.

It's also pretty toxic to horses themselves if it's not used carefully.

Robin Hargreaves, from the British veterinary association, discusses the dangers of consuming horsemeat treated with phenylbutazone, following the news that Findus beef lasagne ready meals may have been contaminated

 

[adam west]

I never did get Bubble Dizzy... in fact I've never heard of it. Maybe they had some different ones on Amiga than Speccy? Almost certainly did actually.

it was different from the regular dizzy games in that tyou just had to keep jumping up from the bottom of the sea either in or on top of bubbles and get to the top befoere your air ran out. utter shite, but i think i only paid a fiver for that one.

 

[Shambles]

horsemeat is full of drug residues

 

[badandwicked]

The horses bought by the meat man are often riding & racing horses who for one reason or another are no longer fit for purpose, often due to injury. A horse could have spent the 2 years before its death being pumped full of antibiotics and all other sorts of medication, bute's already been mentioned but also wormers and louse treatments. And then off they go to become dog human food.

I know unless you buy organic meat there are some permitted medications & treatments which have been 'regulated' and deemed ok, but its my belief that all these substances fail to break down once in the food chain and are responsible partly for the cancer 'epidemic' thats sweeping the western world. I dont think you can mess with natures delicate balance and not expect repercussions. Cheaper organic food for all, IMO

 

[Ceres]

hahaha.

Me off to sell my cow to tesco :

 

[adam west]

i heard on the radio last night that some of this meat had been sent to kebaberies too!!!!!!!!!

 

[Shambles]

No doubt would be a vast improvement in that particular case, Adam :D

 

[adam west]

haha maybe, i do love a nice greasy doner now and again though. as a kid though (brought up on the things) they always used to give me terrible heartburn.

 

[Ben So Furry]

Kebabs were a weird thing for me, I'd absolutely crave one like nothing else but once I'd ate one I'd be like 'never again' for another month

 

[Shambles]

Don't mine 'em now and then but not had one in yonks. Was always more of a post-pub kinda thang and I don't go to pubs anymore so just never crosses me mind to get one. Very occasionally I do have a shish kebab or summat cos it feels a bit wrong asking for a doner before kicking out time. Had one of those frozen doners once - many years ago, mind. Blimey that was nasty. Anyone had doner pizza? Or doner Pot Noodle? Have had the latter once or twice and was okay. Tasted nowt like a kebab though. Just kinda generic Pot Noodle flavour really. Have a minor weakness for the blighters now and then

 

[Marmalade]

I know unless you buy organic meat there are some permitted medications & treatments which have been 'regulated' and deemed ok, but its my belief that all these substances fail to break down once in the food chain and are responsible partly for the cancer 'epidemic' thats sweeping the western world. I dont think you can mess with natures delicate balance and not expect repercussions. Cheaper organic food for all, IMO

Even just using your local farm shop, where they use a known local farmer is far better than using the supermarket meat. It's just as cheap in my neck of the woods too. The level of processing that goes into prepacked meats is astonishing.

Dunno if anyone's caught a few episodes of that series 'what's really in your food', where they take a product and thoroughly go and investigate the process stages from start to finish. They talk to the factories that produce them and it's astonishing how ignorant they are even when asked about what key words on the packaging mean. Ask them anything detailed about the exact source of the food overseas and they generally know fuck all and can't even give you the percentage of foreign product.

They looked at Ham once ... fuck me that was gross. the extent of the processing over and over, being mixed in vats of water and saline for hours on end. And that included the breaded kind that looks like it's off the bone. They concluded that the only guarantee of getting unadulterated 100% ham was buying the kind cut off the bone buy the butcher

 

[adam west]

yeah pretty much my mindset ben. even at the time of scoffing them im loving it to the max, then after eating i feel like crap.
ive tried the pot noodle ones shambles, from what i can remember they didnt even have much flavour and certainly not doner kebab in flavour.

 

[Ben So Furry]

In my local newspaper there was a picture of a queue running out into the road for my local high street butcher, so something good has come of this horse meat thing.