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Eveyvibe said:
If i go back to 4 mg now im going to feel a right wimp n like I've failed ugh.

MDB is prob the best to speak to on this but hes busy at mo n I don't want to annoy him.
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BCF gave you some good advice about the 0.4 temegesics. They make those last few steps physically a lot easier. Before that i think i was pushing myself too fast for my body to handle and so my first couple of attempts to quit failed as i was feeling run down before i even stopped. What finally worked was 'resting up' and stabilsing on 1mg for about a month, getting my health and fitness and strenght back for the 'final push'.

iirc i struggled most cutting down from 2mg to 1mg. As BCF told me that was a 50% reduction which was probably too much all at once. But once i finally stablised on 1mg getting some 0.2 iirc (they might have been 0.4 but i think they were 0.2. W/e they were they were an invaluable help for the last stage of the taper for me ) The temegesics made the last few steps far easier than i expected. There's loads of people with good advice who've been through sub tapers on here, sometimes you will get contraditorary advice tho, so you have to decide what you think will work for you.

BCF & shambles in particular and sammy g each helped in their own different ways. As did knock and brimz.

Dont feel that im too busy to help you with your sub taper if theres anything you wanna ask or anything i can do i will always find time to help you through that as much as i can. Im kind of indebted to the forum for helping me, so i kind of owe someone else some help, if that makes any sense.

EDIT: why did i just decide to prune one of my cactuses of all its little babies without wearing gloves? I managed to get a fuckin cactus spine wedged down between my index finger and the nail, hopefully it will push itself out as the nail grows, but poking around there with needles has not helped get the little sod out. :\
 
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On a less serious note, here is a picture for Guinness fans. This was one from last night that got a bit excited and tried to climb to the moon.

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Just in case anybody's wondering why they've been blessed with a few hours silence from Mzgarden, it's because she's currently failing to steal my teddy.

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And incriminating herself with that sturgeon she's smoking 8o
 
kate said:
No Good Friday Thread...tis an omen :sus:
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Probably more of a confirmation that few - if any - Blers give the slightest of fucks about the Christian calandar than an omen of owt as such.

I am, however, rather surprised nobody posted a thread about the variform nature of overpriced chocolate-based products available to purchase to show one's love and respect for whichever aspect of the coming of spring one happens to most closely relate to. I bought meself a bar of salted caramel Galaxy but not sampled it yet so got little else to add.

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How did that fella produce such white vomit? Only time I spew like that is when hacking up excessive volumes of phlegm when I have a chest infection. Surely even da yoots of today don't go outside topless whilst they have a chest infection? Especially when they are already ginger.
 
I did a Happy Easter thread hoping that would cater for all as most, christian n non christian tend to celebrate Easter. Sorry I had to end the 'Jesus loves you all' for us Christians ;)
I spent a long time feeling ashamed of it but **** it people accept me for me, belief systemd n all or not at all lol

Hope you're all doing ok. My bruvs nearly finished flooring but ive run out of it need another pack n some door thingys. Ive actually got beeding for 6 years ago that was stuck in the shed n not even damp.

Evey
 
Eveyvibe said:
Ive just taken another 2mg sub which makes it 4 mg. People were here today n i felt uncomfortable n anxious so i thought fuck it. Now im annoyed with myself, really annoyed :(
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To me this suggests that you may not be completely ready to drop down from 4mg yet. Please try to bear in mind that it is not a race - there are no "winners" or "losers" there are only people who stick at it and those who don't. As with any other medication, sometimes a person needs a little more, sometimes they need a little less, sometimes they need a longer course of treatment, sometimes a shorter course suffices.

If a person had to go back to get a second course of antibiotics to fight off a chest infection, or a person who had to go back to get their hayfever meds dose raised a little, or a person who was in plaster for a bit longer than the fella next in line was when they broke a bone at the same time you wouldn't think of them as being "weak" or as having "failed" in any way would you? This is the same thing.

All that stuff about "weakness" and "failure" is from people who consider addictions to simply be a flaw in a person's moral character - the same kinda people who believe depression is cured by stiffening the upper lip and cramming down emotions even further below the surface, or who believe that AIDS (alongside whatever the most recent natural disaster happens to be) is a deity's judgement on the prmiscuous, the chemically hedonistic and/or the sexually "deviant". In other words, the opinions of the uniformed, the bigoted and the ignoramus.

Again, I would strongly recommend speaking honestly with your keyworker and/or doctor or whoever you feel most able to open up to. Be asked to be referred to a different keyworker if there is one you get along with and trust more than the one you usually see. Whilst I totally understand the apparent need to keep some pills in reserve "just in case" (I do it too at times so am on no high horse here) this is also a sign suggesting the person is not quite yet ready to let go enough to drop down in dosage with confidence. It does get harder the lower you go because the relative amounts being cut out increase each time. This is a flaw in the system in my view and it ma be worth speaking to your keyworker about being tapered more gradually - perhaps 3mg rather than 2mg. These kinda doses can be worked out as bupe also comes in the form of Temgesic (identical to Subutex in all but name - if your keyworker believes Suboxone is anything other than a shallow marketing ploy for the uneducated they should try to develop more knowledge of their area of supposed expertise... but, yeah, good luck with that :!).

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Real pleased with my new flooring. Ran out of a pack so thst's why there's a gap so heyho. I never thought owt would be as good as the tigerwood but how ironic that it's a similar to what i bought by mistake all those years ago, n ended up putting in the bedrooms. I think this ace with the new colours. I got rid of pink n grey for ruby starlet (deep red) n blossom white (basically white with a slight touch of pink)



Cause I toved the TigerWood so much I've kept it in the hall n the stairs are now cornflower white (just save up for a navy blue carpet for stairs n landing n all will be right with the world.



It's nice having proper flooring down again sminstead of a concrete floor as been the case since September :)

Evey
 
Shambles said:
To me this suggests that you may not be completely ready to drop down from 4mg yet. Please try to bear in mind that it is not a race - there are no "winners" or "losers" there are only people who stick at it and those who don't. As with any other medication, sometimes a person needs a little more, sometimes they need a little less, sometimes they need a longer course of treatment, sometimes a shorter course suffices.

If a person had to go back to get a second course of antibiotics to fight off a chest infection, or a person who had to go back to get their hayfever meds dose raised a little, or a person who was in plaster for a bit longer than the fella next in line was when they broke a bone at the same time you wouldn't think of them as being "weak" or as having "failed" in any way would you? This is the same thing.

All that stuff about "weakness" and "failure" is from people who consider addictions to simply be a flaw in a person's moral character - the same kinda people who believe depression is cured by stiffening the upper lip and cramming down emotions even further below the surface, or who believe that AIDS (alongside whatever the most recent natural disaster happens to be) is a deity's judgement on the prmiscuous, the chemically hedonistic and/or the sexually "deviant". In other words, the opinions of the uniformed, the bigoted and the ignoramus.

Again, I would strongly recommend speaking honestly with your keyworker and/or doctor or whoever you feel most able to open up to. Be asked to be referred to a different keyworker if there is one you get along with and trust more than the one you usually see. Whilst I totally understand the apparent need to keep some pills in reserve "just in case" (I do it too at times so am on no high horse here) this is also a sign suggesting the person is not quite yet ready to let go enough to drop down in dosage with confidence. It does get harder the lower you go because the relative amounts being cut out increase each time. This is a flaw in the system in my view and it ma be worth speaking to your keyworker about being tapered more gradually - perhaps 3mg rather than 2mg. These kinda doses can be worked out as bupe also comes in the form of Temgesic (identical to Subutex in all but name - if your keyworker believes Suboxone is anything other than a shallow marketing ploy for the uneducated they should try to develop more knowledge of their area of supposed expertise... but, yeah, good luck with that :!).

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Thank you, Shambles. I will talk to her. S, my old keyworker, doesn't work there anymore but I felt that I could talk to her about anything. This one I changed to in October.

She's also the one who told me about them using speed to clean their houses for army inspections hence my interest there (which has ceased now)

Evey
 
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