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Gibberings CLXVI - You go away for a weekend...

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Sammy G said:
Water sometimes isn't enough. That's the important thing.
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^ Quoted For Truth.

Once upon a time, on a Summertime speed bender (think: temps in the high 20s / low 30s, no food), I managed to get within a hair's breadth of joining Leah Betts. Fortunately, my brain was still working just enough to notice that drinking and pissing at the same time, all the while getting thirstier and thirstier was not only not normal, but a classic symptom of electrolyte deficiency (not enough salt feels exactly the same as not enough water -- an evolutionary curiosity), and my body was still working just enough to get to a café with salt and sugar available. A teaspoon of salt in a glass of water with enough sugar to render it drinkable saved my life. Didn't look pretty, but it worked.

Dying per se wasn't actually my greatest concern -- the thought foremost in what was left of my mind was, there is no way in hell that I am going to end up being turned into a poster child for the Prohibitionist cause. (Not that I would have looked any good on a poster, but .....)
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
Bleurrghhhh...had a 9.30 meeting with my key worker and uni welfare manager. Too early and low on blood bupe concentration for that.

Good news was he agreed to script me zolpidem instead of zopiclone for my detox:) bad news is he refused to script me a box of df's:p I can see his argument for not doing it but don't entirely agree. Still it is what it is.
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What are dfs?????

Evey
 
Chatative said:
Afternoon folks

Shaping up to be a nice warm day but it's fairly cloudy. Sun might pop out for a short while if I'm lucky.



I managed to find you on Facebook using what little information there is. So the sum total of information I found out was your last name & probably which town you live in. I can't find anything else more specific though but it's not like I have ever tried stalking someone over the internet before ;)

I don't know if that's what you were meaning by personal info but I can tell you how I managed if that's what you were meaning... there'd be a quick fix that would solve it probably.

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Might as well save a post..

Lovely here today... 18 degrees and... shorts are out! Just had my lunch & listening to some Metallica soaking up some rays (again).

This is the life. :)
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No you can't you're just trying to stir trouble. I've my Facebook on lockdown and I had mydrugbuddy check it out.

Jesus Christ I try to do something good; raise money for cancer and I have people do searches on me. FFS!

Oh and thanks for telling me that in an open forum you could have at least told me this in PM.

Shambles I agree with you about the lyrics. They're annoying and I've had to put several people on ignore due to it. If I wanted to read a load of song lyrics I'd buy a teenage mag. It's VERY irritating!

Evey
 
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Df's are dihydrocodeine evey... as you can probably tell from the name its a relative of your DoC...!

How you doing today??
 
Mental Kenny said:
Annoying I have a parcel full of goodies waiting for me at the post office in my home town, but the stuff I ordered to my uni halls here in my new city is still in transit, I'm pondering whether I should skip class tomorrow, get on the train, go back, take a cab to the post office, pick up my stuff then go back to the train station and come back here.

The mission would cost me like 100 euros and a whole day, plus I'll miss the lessons.

Don't know what I should do. I should be getting some stuff here soon anyway and I'm going home next thursday so I can pick up the parcel that has already arrived next week no problem as they keep it for a whole month before sending it back.

Still the tought that I could have lots of stuff tomorrow night tempts me, waste of time and money though and bloody tiring.
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easy for me to say but dont bother heading home, wait where you are and save yourself , €100. you got goodies coming to uni town soon.
 
Evening folks! Impressed.. have a rather shoddy internet connection on the Isle of Wight (I think carrier pigeons might be involved) but the one website that works fine is BL.
 
Shambles said:
DF-118s. Dihydrocodeine pills. Like codeine but slightly stronger and with less itching. They're not actually DFs any more but they were for so long the name stuck.
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An update on this is that I randomly got offered a place at an inpatient detox starting on Monday this afternoon as they had a cancellation. I decided to turn it down and stick with my planned community detox in the end which should be starting pretty much at the end of the month give or take a day. The list of meds I will have acquired for dealing with the wd will be quite extensive in the end and I might even be able to get a box of dhc anyway. If I do I think I will probably hand 2/3 of them over to someone and tell them to only dish them out if I'm really crying out for them. Everything else is non-opiate.
 
Owen - please be careful with DHC.

You only have to experience that warm, fuzzy feeling and you may be triggered - especially during withdrawal symptoms.
You've come so far, haven't you? Can I ask why you turned the detox down? Of course 'tis your choice - they'd have made you comfortable.

Anyway we're all here for you to give you support, even though you're arrogant at times, you're a decent person deep down and I wish you all the very best with your recovery.

Evey
 
^ MDMA first, 2C-B a couple hours in. I was quite tired - and don't take MDMA as often as I once did and not had 2C-B in a goodly while - so hit me quite hard. I had to retire from the field and take shelter in a van listening to fine tunes and nodding a bit in serotonergic bliss <3

Eveleivibe said:
Owen - please be careful with DHC.

You only have to experience that warm, fuzzy feeling and you may be triggered - especially during withdrawal symptoms.
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I know you mean well, Evey... but please believe me that nobody feels warm, fuzzy feelings when using DHC to quit strong opies. They puke a bit less, shit a bit less, cramp a bit less but otherwise it's still hellish. Bear this in mind cos you too are now on strong opies. You skipped several rungs of the ladder and jumped right up near the top. I have no argument with being scripted bupe for serious codeine issues but be in no doubt that your script would drop the average donkey and there is a long way back down. Codeine and DHC won't touch the sides at the type of bupe dose you are on and Owen is on more than double that. It's a palliative not an excuse to piss about and nod and shit. It's the very barest minimum to get through such things.
 
Shambles said:
^ MDMA first, 2C-B a couple hours in. I was quite tired - and don't take MDMA as often as I once did and not had 2C-B in a goodly while - so hit me quite hard. I had to retire from the field and take shelter in a van listening to fine tunes and nodding a bit in serotonergic bliss <3



I know you mean well, Evey... but please believe me that nobody feels warm, fuzzy feelings when using DHC to quit strong opies. They puke a bit less, shit a bit less, cramp a bit less but otherwise it's still hellish. Bear this in mind cos you too are now on strong opies. You skipped several rungs of the ladder and jumped right up near the top. I have no argument with being scripted bupe for serious codeine issues but be in no doubt that your script would drop the average donkey and there is a long way back down. Codeine and DHC won't touch the sides at the type of bupe dose you are on and Owen is on more than double that. It's a palliative not an excuse to piss about and nod and shit. It's the very barest minimum to get through such things.
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Sorry I assumed that Owen was quitting H, I didn't realize he was quitting subs. Sorry, Owen, to talk about you like you're not here. I didn't realise that DHC wouldn't make him feel fuzzy. Thanks, Shambz, for correcting me. Owen, I hope that the DHC works for you, then. Maybe the professionals are thinking the same way that I am thinking - and are unaware that they will not give you a warm, fuzzy feeling.

I wish you all the best with your recovery, Owen, despite the fact that you and I, don't get on.

Evey xxxx
 
Eveleivibe said:
they won't feel affects of DHC with H withdrawal????

Will I ever feel codeine again? If not, I'll do a party because it means there's no point in taken it ever again.....

Evey
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It's the law of diminishing returns I'm afraid, I've been on opiate pain killers for nearly 2 years. In that time I've strived not to abuse them but it's very hard when a) you're an irresponsible drug pig like me and b) you're in a fair amount of pain and the relief is very much welcome.

My dosing is still quite low but these days I can take 300mg of codeine on an empty stomach and feel very little, a year ago I would have been puking everywhere. I'm not sure about the long term permanent down regulation of the receptors but if other drugs are anything to go by there is some permanency to these things.

Skipping the H run on the ladder isnt a bad thing, if you think you can go back to occasionally using something you had a big problem with before I'd be wary, you might be able to do that, for me that root always end up back where I started.

and so the sermon endith;)
 
Allein said:
It's the law of diminishing returns I'm afraid, I've been on opiate pain killers for nearly 2 years. In that time I've strived not to abuse them but it's very hard when a) you're an irresponsible drug pig like me and b) you're in a fair amount of pain and the relief is very much welcome.

My dosing is still quite low but these days I can take 300mg of codeine on an empty stomach and feel very little, a year ago I would have been puking everywhere. I'm not sure about the long term permanent down regulation of the receptors but if other drugs are anything to go by there is some permanency to these things.

Skipping the H run on the ladder isnt a bad thing, if you think you can go back to occasionally using something you had a big problem with before I'd be wary, you might be able to do that, for me that root always end up back where I started.

and so the sermon endith;)
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Oh, is this why a lot of heroin addicts seem to hate me on here for being on suboxone?
They really have a big issue with me instead of being happy for me that I'm no longer in active addiction.
I don't want to go back to that person because spending $257 on 112 60mg tabs plus the rest was NOT good... I don't ever want to go back to that person.
It may not have been Heroin but it still almost destroyed my life.

Evey

PS: Allein you're ace. I appreciate all the advice you've given me n for being a good friend to me. Won't forget that ever.
 
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