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Gibberings CLVI: Back to the Future

mydrugbuddy said:
I am going to try to reduce the frequency of binges to as few and far between as possible. I agree that to much of that can be very destabalising and will mess up my etiz taper completelty. But st the moment the prospect of nothing but mirtazapine and 6 months of tapering down off etizolam with nothing else is too much.
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Sounds like a good - and realistic - goal to me. It's when binges merge into one another too often it gets really messy. For myself, I started by having the odd sober day now and then and have tried (with mixed but currently mostly fairly good results) to extend them a bit. Also cut down the number of drugs involved in an "average" usage from whatever was in the house, all at once, to one or two things that work together. I'm just about down to a weekly "thing" at the moment as far as taking anything other than the day to day stuff - and not even every week at that which I'm rather pleased at achieving. Next step will have to be addressing said day to day stuff (basically booze, baccy and maybe noids cos that's become daily since I've been trying to hevaily reduce booze intake, but it's better than boozy excess for me at the moment).

It's a daunting prospect to go from essentially one long, never-ending polydrug binge (ie "normal life" for me until very recently) to... not a lot comparatively. It's not been as hard as I expected though and I can honestly say I can see improvements in many areas of my life. I'm not going all 12 Step by any means, but I might - just might - finally be getting a bit of a grip on things and finding my way towards some kinda balance that suits both me and the wider society.
 
Shambles said:
D'oh! :!

I did once live next door to a church for a few years. Literally next door - in a chapel, as it happens - and the bells were a bleedin' nightmare on a Sunday morn :!
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I lived next to a mosque in London. Ramadam was no fun I can tell you.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Actually doing the total abstenance thing for 6 months or more though ? I find that too much to even contemplate. I suspect there may be a middle way, where it doesnt have to be underdurable total abstainance, which may lead to a complete and total relapse anyway, nor does it have to be 4 day binges of whatever i feel like every week either
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I would think even 2 or 3 months of total abstinence would be better than trying to manage moderate usage..? And having the mentality that you're expecting a relapse isn't a good idea either. ;)

Mental Kenny said:
I find it fairly moreish in terms of redosing, when I first started I would compulsively redose until I puked, now I know my limit so I don't even get to the point of being nauseated, well not usually anyway, I find the fact that it takes a while to come up and is never at your face like railing oxy would, leads you to feel you aren't quite there yet so you keep on going back to the spoon and eat more and more.
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Well, yeah, when you put it *that* way.. agreed. Lovely stuff.

mydrugbuddy said:
Chapels can be quite beatiful. Spooky though if next to a graveyard ? A schoolfriend of mine said he had a ghost at the foot of his bed one night.
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Definitely.. I used to love lurking around the crypts of Canterbury Cathedral when I was a student there. (Plus even the 'bone chapel' places in Europe are rather awesome (in the proper sense of the word.) Like the Capuchin crypt in Rome. Amazing.)
 
swampdragon said:
Just invited a friend to a clubnight as he's whingeing about not meeting women, and he said "No, it'll be full of druggies." Well fuck you, then. 8(


Hee. I like you. (And yes, I seem to know a lot of that type..) 8)


White kratom's fairly stimulating, aye.. it can be a bit moreish but I wouldn't call it compulsive at all.
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Maybe it isn't his thing to do drugs or "hang round with druggies." Maybe he didn't think n it just came out. He may not have meant anything against you at all.
 
He wasn't talking about me as he doesn't really know about my drug intake. I was just offended generally. ;)
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Chapels can be quite beatiful. Spooky though if next to a graveyard ? A schoolfriend of mine said he had a ghost at the foot of his bed one night.
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I quite liked the chapel as a place - epic for parties what with it being basically two massive rooms (the main hall (split into two levels via the medium of scaffolding-based mezzanines) and a ginormous kitchen) and a rather flash sound system (stepfather was into his music (old hippy fella)). Family stayed with friends so I got the place for the night for my 18th. Fun was had =D

Never found it spooky, myself. Several of my mother's woowoo friends told us that we had various ghosts. Can't say I ever saw one myself though. And I stayed up especially and kept and eye out for 'em too :!

StoneHappyMonday said:
I lived next to a mosque in London. Ramadam was no fun I can tell you.
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Did they have a muezzin? They start early for the fathful. And their speakers are tinny as fuck for some reason. Or maybe that's just how it sounds on tellybox cos have never actually heard the call myself.
 
Shambles said:
Did they have a muezzin? They start early for the fathful. And their speakers are tinny as fuck for some reason. Or maybe that's just how it sounds on tellybox cos have never actually heard the call myself.
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No they didn't, else it would have been unbearable all the time, but I just remember every East London Muslim gathering there during Ramadam. BUT I have heard 'the call' in Marrakech - and I was blown away. You know me, not sympathetic to any religion, but it was impossible to deny that the call to prayer from the mosque (which had non-tinny speakers I guess) was - spiritual shall we say. It's something I'll never forget. I heard they get special training to be able to sound that way, dunno how true that is but this bloke was certainly no ordinary Joe/Abdul.
Mental Kenny said:
Seriously =D

Can somebody try to get MM back on here, he looks like he needs a hobby, doing my head in with all the "What's this" pictures on FB ;)
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Please have a go yourself Kenny. He's stopped listening to me. I miss the twat.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
No they didn't, else it would have been unbearable all the time, but I just remember every East London Muslim gathering there during Ramadam. BUT I have heard 'the call' in Marrakech - and I was blown away. You know me, not sympathetic to any religion, but it was impossible to deny that the call to prayer from the mosque (which had non-tinny speakers I guess) was - spiritual shall we say. It's something I'll never forget. I heard they get special training to be able to sound that way, dunno how true that is but this bloke was certainly no ordinary Joe/Abdul.
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Hardly the same thing but I am very fond of some Islamic music. One fella in particular but can't recall the name (you probably know him - the only one most Westerner's are even vaguely likely to know). I know what you mean about the "spirtual" thing. You don't have to be religious to recognise the numinous.
 
I spoke to him just b4 i deleted my ACCT pOOR BASTARD . Why diod we Mod him , ruined it for im n he didn't sound like he wanted back in a hurry lets MOd i dunno the 1st new poster next time it is the way 4ward .
 
Mental Kenny said:
Can somebody try to get MM back on here, he looks like he needs a hobby, doing my head in with all the "What's this" pictures on FB ;)
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I was trying not to mention it, but fucking hell that group is addictive. I've hardly even looked on EADD since he started it. 8)

I would like to see him back here though.. doubt he'd listen to me either.
 
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I'm guessing you don't mean Cat Stevens / Yusuf Islam, Shammy?

I don't think it's properly Islamic music but I do like a lot of the modern Arabian music produced by the likes of Rachid Taha. I've got a compilation "Arabica" which is pretty excellent.
 
swampdragon said:
I was trying not to mention it, but fucking hell that group is addictive. I've hardly even looked on EADD since he started it. 8)
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One of the many reasons I'll never join FB. When FB started getting big EADD became a deadzone and has never been the same since. If for no other reason (although I have plenty others) that's given me a vehement dislike of FB cos it may not have actually killed the EADD atmostphere but it's certainly made it a shadow of its former glorious self :(

Nothing lasts forever I know, things change and move on, but is a shame cos EADD was once the most fun you could have on the interwebz (short of a baggie of peev and a selection of pr0n sites maybe ;)) for many years until FB worked its seductive magic on virtually everybody leaving a rather poorly, pale and anaemic EADD in its wake :\

/FB bitchery and nostalgic rosy-tinteds
 
brimz said:
I spoke to him just b4 i deleted my ACCT pOOR BASTARD . Why diod we Mod him , ruined it for im n he didn't sound like he wanted back in a hurry lets MOd i dunno the 1st new poster next time it is the way 4ward .
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Who's MM? And what do you please by "why did we mod him?" Not meaning to sound rude but he's not one of those who floods the thread with pics / videos is he? If so, I'll have to unsubscribe this thread as my phone can't take threads with pics/bids.

Please don't take that in a mean way someone said this person puts lots of pics on Facebook so that's my reason for asking.

Facebook is crap. I used it whinge like ell LMAO! I thought people would just use Facebook n EADD. I don't see why they'd stop coming here over Facebook?????! It's just a place where people like to nose at others' lives.
 
Hey I'm not anaemic. But yeah, fuck Facebook. And what it's done to the atmosphere of the world, let alone BL.
 
Shambles said:
One of the many reasons I'll never join FB. When FB started getting big EADD became a deadzone and has never been the same since. If for no other reason (although I have plenty others) that's given me a vehement dislike of FB cos it may not have actually killed the EADD atmostphere but it's certainly made it a shadow of its former glorious self :(

Nothing lasts forever I know, things change and move on, but is a shame cos EADD was once the most fun you could have on the interwebz (short of a baggie of peev and a selection of pr0n sites maybe ;)) for many years until FB worked its seductive magic on virtually everybody leaving a rather poorly, pale and anaemic EADD in its wake :\

/FB bitchery and nostalgic rosy-tinteds
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Yeah another non-drug forum I use has suffered a big drop in activity and are blaming FB and also Twitter. It boggles my mind because AFAICT they just don't have the benefits that a proper forum offers for actual high-quality discussion. If anything they offer a distraction from discussion because of all the games, photo tagging, liking, poorly organised comment system, etc etc. Maybe people just don't want to talk about stuff any more.

I wouldn't have noticed because I've never seen any "useful" discussion taking place on Facebook, but I'm probably not looking hard enough. Why would I want to look hard though? I don't need to look hard on BL to find useful discussion.

Evey said:
Who's MM?
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Mailmonkey. EADD's currently absent, much missed, moderator. Yeah he used to fill up threads with shite, but he limited it to single posts of text rather than millions of posts of pictures and videos, so I don't think he would upset you too much.
 
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