GHB MEGA-Thread

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Hello Bluelighters! We in TDS are introducing substance-specific MEGA threads. This is the GHB MEGA-Thread. This thread will focus on the problems associated with GHB abuse. Having a substance-specific thread allows us to create a wider discussion with a broader perspective to provide greater support to the GHB using community.
 
I don't have much to add, other than I would give my left nut for some GHB right about now.

Carry on. :)
 
I've never taken GHB before and know little about it. Anyone care to share their story about overcoming GHB addiction?
 
I was 17 when i first tried ghb. At first i hated it all i did was drink to much and pass out. It wasnt until i was deep into my cocaine addiction that could its uses in coming down from a coke high. By the time i was 18 i used it occassionally ( maining coke at the time) but my coke addiction became so horrible i knew i had to stop. I pretty much told myself ghb was "ok" as long as it got me off the coke. I basicaly made myself like the drug. I started using smaller dosage so i didnt pass out. Fuck big mistake. After discovering how it relaxed me and gave me euphoria i was hooked. In september of 07 i was dosing about every hour. No one ever told me you could experience withdrawals with ghb. This all came to a head that november when my dad accidently threw out 250ml of ghb. I was fucked. What would follow would be the scarest experience of my life. No panic attacks( like when i wasnt using daily) But full blown hullcinations, not acid hullcinations but scary fucking bug, tiny indinans crawling under my skin, my ceiling would turn into snakes! I saw ghost, tanks in the street, purple clouds with eyes. I had isolated myself down the basement but when my dad heard the screaming he rushed me to the hospital. I was too out of it to realize it was ghb withdrawal, but the dumb ass doctors just gave me acouple xanax and sent me home. I dont remember two days after that but the next thing i know i wake up gasping for air, i could barely speak- felt like i had celifane wraped around my tongue. Boom ! next thing i know im in a ambulence convulsing. I had had a seizure. After that its quite blurely but im told i was in the hospital for 4 days where they kept dosing me up with ativan because i was hullcinating so bad, hititng doctors, nurses and pretending to fight the mexican civial war. When i came too i had no idea what had happened ( it would be acouple of weeks before i regained my memory) This scared me enough to keep me away from ghb for 4 months, but i wasnt working a program or going to meetings. After awhile the fear faded and i went back to ghb along with other drugs. I had to have it. I stole credit cards, money anything i could get from my father to pay for my addiction. I was a shut in. I would just drink ghb and watch sopranoes all day - fall asleep in random places and shit. One day i had been up for two days doing ghb and coke. Boom ! next thing i know im in the hospital again having tubes shoved down my throat. I'd overdosed. The emt had given my carcol and shot me with 3 things of epinephrine and i still didnt come to. They told my parents to get to the hospital cause i wasnt gonna make it. I did obviously. Everything around me was falling apart worse than ever. Just straight disgust from all my family members and girlfriend. I swore to them id change my life that this was it. I knew i was really lying i just wanted to get out of there to get some more ghb. I was clean for about 2 weeks before ordering more. My runs with ghb had gotten shorter and shorter. My dad ended up finding the bottle i had just ordered but was willing to give me my hourly dosage so i wouldnt go into withdrawals - as long as i agreed to go to rehab. I agreed but i still had some more manipulation up my sleeve. When he was sleeping i stole all my ghb back along with $700 in cash and a car and started driving to atlantic city. I lost all my money at the casinos along with buying coke and h. I was hiding and running from so much pain; friends suicide, being adopted, responsiblity, life in general. But that as i walked out onto the boardwalk it didnt matter how much of any drug i put in my body the pain wouldnt go away. As i looked out into the ocean crying, screaming and just fucking breaking down i didnt want to live like this i knew i had so much good potenial in me. I felt something i cant explain.

Its getting kinda late where im at so head to bed rest of the story tommorrow - if anyone has any questions about ghb withdrawal or addiction i feel i can share my experience, strength and hope and atleast what i did to come off it
 
Jebus. That's why harm reduction is key: GHB has fierce withdrawals. Just like benzos, you can actually die from those seizures.

When I had a source for the stuff, I was taking it nightly to unwind, with a small booster dose to knock myself out. At the time I was taking a full course-load at school, working a 30-hour week, and partying all weekend every weekend. If it wasn't for GHB, I'd never get any sleep.

But, as these things go, my tolerance crept up, and I found that my supply was running low. My usual source vanished, and all I could find was a small (maybe 1/2 litre) amount of GBL at three times the price that I paid for GHB. At first I tried to keep doing what I was doing, but the GBL beat the shit ot of my stomach, so I converted what was left to GHB and tapered myself off. Other than some insomnia and mild jitters during the day, I was fine.

I really miss it though. The smooth, relaxing mellow euphoria, the easy conversation (at lower doses), the waking up after a few hours' rest and feeling able to take on the world. /sigh
 
yes GHB withdrawls are bad. After about 10 days in a row (only 10 days!) I experienced hallucinations (auditory and visual) from getting off it.

It should be noted also that on a high dose of it (amphetamine + GHB) I experienced profoundly detailed visual hallucinations (a duck in the air above me). I think the only reason I stayed cognizant was because I had amphetamine also. My dopamine system is out of whack though from methamphetamine abuse years ago.

GHB is not good stuff. Its very addictive. A lot of bodybuilders got addicted to it years ago when it was legal. Be careful with this stuff ya'll as the fiendy redosing is quite easy to happen (and this is when addiction will grab you by the balls).

polyaddiction is also quite easy with it as many people that get addicted to it also get addicted to alcohol (it feeds the same receptors).

Its up there with heroin ime for addictiveness. Thinking about it right now makes my mouth water for that buttery salty taste.
 
Oh yeah. Nothing like it.

I wish I could forget the taste of GBL though. The same salty overtones, but instead of buttery, it tasted like solvent. Because that's exactly what it is. Almost always followed by a heavy shudder and often a few good gags. Blech. Never again.
 
first time was a lil 25ml bottle. (GBL)

after that i bought a 250ml bottle, which i have steadily consumed.
very addictive, but i don't fiend for it.

however, if it is THERE, i just do it.

in fact, ima do some right now.
i have maybe 3-5 doses left outa that big fuckin bottle.
been using a few times a day (VERY good for sleep, except waking up drenched in sweat =P)

thing is, i haven't had any W/Ds or fiending for this, when i have gone without it (on purpose).

so maybe i've been lucky?

im going to put off ordering any more for as long as possible (my friends want me to buy them some),
i dont feel like im going to have any problems, once it's gone, though.
 
Dave said:
Oh yeah. Nothing like it.

I wish I could forget the taste of GBL though. The same salty overtones, but instead of buttery, it tasted like solvent. Because that's exactly what it is. Almost always followed by a heavy shudder and often a few good gags. Blech. Never again.
hahahah i can stomach anything,
but yeah it is a plastic-y solvent.
nasty shit =P
 
so is GHB better than GBL then? If so in what ways?

When I first started taking GBL i thought it was the chronic, it used to give me an amazing buzz from 1.5ml but it just seems like unless im doing something I nod off.
 
"its up there with heroin ime for addictiveness"

ummm, NO WAY is it even close to heroin in terms of its addictive potential...about 10 years ago when ghb was very popular, i would buy gallons of the stuff with my buddies...all of us were taking it, as weere our buddies....it wasnt a daily thing, mostly a party drug for the weekend...it was great, take a capful or so and you could expect a very nice buzz, euphoric, it made you very social, energetic and very horny....there was no hangover so that was a plus as well..of course if you took too much you would get sick....i would have to guesstimate i knew at least 50-60 people taking ghb and out of thjose 60, only 2 of them developed any sort of adiction to the drug...now, i have been addicted to heroin and pretty much 95% of people i knew that tried heroin a few times became hooked...

i never developed addiction ot dependance on ghb and like i said, i have bought it by the gallon before..im like dave, i really miss ghb because it just blows alcohol out of the water...such a cleaner, more epuhoric buzz...
 
bighooter-- I found that with a bit of work I could get three distinct dosing levels from GHB/GBL:

The first one I called my 'chatty' dose. It was quite low, and pretty well just loosened me up a bit. Great for going to a club/party and dancing for a little bit. With experience, tiny booster doses could maintain this effect for quite a while. On the higher end I would start to chill out more, but still be really chatty. And randy like nobody's business.

The second one was what I called my 'couch' dose. More euphoric, but more sedative as well. Depending on what end of the dose range I was at, sometimes there would be some nausea or dizziness if I moved too quickly. This one was harder to keep going, but was great for chilling and watching a movie. Tougher to talk coherently here, but I have had some great conversations while on the lower end of the dose range. Still pretty randy usually, but less able to do anything about it ;)

The third range was what I called my bed dose. Pretty self-explanatory. Usually what would happen over the course of an evening at home with GHB would be that I'd start with a couch dose, and then take another 1/3 dose at the 2.5 hour mark and crawl to bed. Sleep for 5 hours or so and then wake up feeling ready to run a half-marathon.

While GHB is considered to be a very weak drug, since its dose is measured in grams, it is very dose-sensitive. The difference between a social dose and a bed dose was about 0.6-0.75 grams, which in some batches might only be 1/3 of a 'cap'. Which is why it is very important to either crystallize the ghb and measure it out properly, or titrate your dose up whenever you try a new batch. And always, always always measure your dose. I knew of people who would just take a small swig from their G bottle, and they were always the ones passed out in the corner covered in puke and dog knows what else.

belfort-- Word. Alcohol is a poor substitute for G, but it has to do me these days. What pisses me off is that if I took G to get the same level of mild intoxication that I aim for when I drink, I would probably have 10 fewer pound of fat on me.

bighooter-- GBL is an organic solvent, and beats the shit out of your stomach. The GBL -> GHB ring opening reaction is one of the easiest to perform (but I won't discuss how to do it in accordance with BL rules), and is well worth the effort. Taking GBL pretty well forces your liver to do the conversion, and I'm sure that most of our livers could use a break. Oddly enough, I found that GBL hit me harder and faster than GHB though. That could well be psychological though, since GBL has a much stronger and more distinctive flavour.
 
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great point dave...alcohol does make you feel bloated and fullwhereas with GHB, i remember taking it and it somehow made you feel faster/leaner....i know its heralded for its gh-raising ability, but i just remember feeling really good on it...

is gHB still popular??im out of the 'drug' scene so...?
 
Not just the bloat, but alcohol is metabolized for energy. The ultimate empty calories. Something like 70 kcal/oz of vodka. Which pretty much goes straight into storage. And that doesn't count all the carbs in beer/wine/mead. Too bad it's so damn tasty.

I have no clue either. AFAIK, where I'm from other than herb the main DOC is meth, but I'm pretty well out of the scene too.
 
this is the one drug that I have always wanted to try, but never been able to find. maybe someday.
 
belfort said:
"its up there with heroin ime for addictiveness"

ummm, NO WAY is it even close to heroin in terms of its addictive potential...about 10 years ago when ghb was very popular, i would buy gallons of the stuff with my buddies...all of us were taking it, as weere our buddies....it wasnt a daily thing, mostly a party drug for the weekend...it was great, take a capful or so and you could expect a very nice buzz, euphoric, it made you very social, energetic and very horny....there was no hangover so that was a plus as well..of course if you took too much you would get sick....i would have to guesstimate i knew at least 50-60 people taking ghb and out of thjose 60, only 2 of them developed any sort of adiction to the drug...now, i have been addicted to heroin and pretty much 95% of people i knew that tried heroin a few times became hooked...

i never developed addiction ot dependance on ghb and like i said, i have bought it by the gallon before..im like dave, i really miss ghb because it just blows alcohol out of the water...such a cleaner, more epuhoric buzz...


everyones got there DOC. Ive tried heroin but for me ghb/gbl would take priority over everything. However, overall heroin is definately more addictive
 
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